My domain registar stole 2 of our domains - GoFuckYourself.com

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 01:58 AM

I was so mad!! Our company bought 20 domains last week. We then get an email from them to day saying that when we purchased them, that their database was messed up at the time, and two of the domains that we bougt we already sold. We went over to see who owned them, and the company that we used for registar is the registered owner of them. I have gotten screen captures of both them registering it the day after we purchased them, and also showing that the domiains are still being parked with them.
I also contacted I-Cann. We have already made logos, and banners, and sites for these domiains.

Anyone else know what else to do for domain theft?

strats · 10-16-2004, 01:59 AM

vote nader

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by strats
vote nader

KERRY!

Dagwolf · 10-16-2004, 02:00 AM

Ouch! Which registrar was that?

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 02:01 AM

Speedy Domain Registration. I have screen captures and proof of when we bought them. , also proof of when they registered them to themselves.

nofx · 10-16-2004, 02:01 AM

godaddy? would seem like typical behavior for them.

kenny · 10-16-2004, 02:01 AM

What domain registar did you use?

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by kenny
What domain registar did you use?

Speedy domain registration

Dagwolf · 10-16-2004, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
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I also contacted I-Cann. We have already made logos, and banners, and sites for these domiains.

Anyone else know what else to do for domain theft?

Sounds like a good start.

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by Dagwolf
Sounds like a good start.

IM so mad!! But no sense getting upset about it I gueese just a weeks worth of work down the drain

Dagwolf · 10-16-2004, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
IM so mad!! But no sense getting upset about it I gueese just a weeks worth of work down the drain

That would upset me. Whether you make a lot or a little, a week's work is a week's work.

Manowar · 10-16-2004, 02:41 AM

that sucks

xclusive · 10-16-2004, 03:01 AM

Sorry to hear that i would bring this case to your lawyer...

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 03:11 AM

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Originally posted by xclusive
Sorry to hear that i would bring this case to your lawyer...

Yeah our company is talking about it. It seems that we do have a case, considering we do have all the proof!

xenigo · 10-16-2004, 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
Yeah our company is talking about it. It seems that we do have a case, considering we do have all the proof!

That's pretty shitty. What are the domains??

AnalProbe · 10-16-2004, 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by xenigo
That's pretty shitty. What are the domains??

steal-this.com

speedy-domains-sucks.com

optatio · 10-16-2004, 03:36 AM

What are the domains ?

Just my

, i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =)

I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain.

just a thought

xenigo · 10-16-2004, 03:39 AM

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Originally posted by AnalProbe
steal-this.com

speedy-domains-sucks.com

LOL sounds about right

BlueQuartz · 10-16-2004, 03:43 AM

damn that sux! sorry to hear it!

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by optatio
What are the domains ?

Just my , i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =)

I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain.

just a thought

it shows that the domains were registered a day after we purchased them.

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Dagwolf
That would upset me. Whether you make a lot or a little, a week's work is a week's work.

yeah it is especially and it was a weeks worth of work for 2 peopel so you can only imagine how much work we did.

We just went and got 2 more to replace them, but not we have a couple of days work just to change the content, templates, and members area sections!!!

kenny · 10-16-2004, 04:38 AM

Did you contact that place?

Not by email either.. call them.

Email support sucks for 99% of all companies

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 04:40 AM

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Originally posted by kenny
Did you contact that place?

Not by email either.. call them.

Email support sucks for 99% of all companies

lmao thats a laugh I cant find a number for them.

I just got an email from them. They say that even though we purchased them on the 11th that they didnt try to register them till the 15th. Which means someon took them in the mean time. Well If I purchased them on the 11th they should have been registerd to me on teh 11th.

Taboo · 10-16-2004, 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
lmao thats a laugh I cant find a number for them.

I just got an email from them. They say that even though we purchased them on the 11th that they didnt try to register them till the 15th. Which means someon took them in the mean time. Well If I purchased them on the 11th they should have been registerd to me on teh 11th.

whats the link to the domain company?

sirrobin · 10-16-2004, 07:27 AM

Why are you using no-name registrars. Is it worth the $1 you save ?

KRL · 10-16-2004, 08:38 AM

Unless they are valuable domains, the cost and time to litigate isn't worth it.

Tom_PMs · 10-16-2004, 08:48 AM

Unasked for advice: Move all of your domains away from them ASAP.

I say that based on nothing more than the apparent failures (incompetence? alleged theft?) posted in this thread alone.

Ordo · 10-16-2004, 08:52 AM

I would sue them.
The problem is, your case will be based on being able to prove the potential value of each domain thus establishing the speculative loss.

If you sue, have as acredited a domain appraiser as you can find appraise the domains to help your case.

But, someone needs to take a stand for all the little people things like this happen to and show these companies that continuing on with this act will cost them much more money in the long run.

Keep us posted!

Dagwolf · 10-16-2004, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Ordo
I would sue them.
The problem is, your case will be based on being able to prove the potential value of each domain thus establishing the speculative loss.

If you sue, have as acredited a domain appraiser as you can find appraise the domains to help your case.

But, someone needs to take a stand for all the little people things like this happen to and show these companies that continuing on with this act will cost them much more money in the long run.

Keep us posted!

How about punitive damages for unethical business practices? Plus they could lose their ICANN accreditation, I assume.

johndoebob · 10-16-2004, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
Speedy domain registration

Unknown registrar, use the big and solid ones, they won't steal your domains.

Check the whois and see if the registration was just slow and their system shitty so they came too late.

If the whois shows your or their informations you should file a complaint and threaten them with a lawsuite.

Project-Shadow · 10-16-2004, 09:54 AM

I use to use speedydomainregistration.com .. but then I realized that they looked dodgy, even the members area seemed a little off..

I then moved all my domains to registerfly.com I suggest you do the same, then take legal action, or call them or whatever.. you don't want them to terminate your account while they deal with this bullshit.

cold_ice · 10-16-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
Unasked for advice: Move all of your domains away from them ASAP.

I say that based on nothing more than the apparent failures (incompetence? alleged theft?) posted in this thread alone.

Fuck them I wouldn't give them any of my biz.

Furious_Male · 10-16-2004, 10:08 AM

What a bunch of shit. Not much honesty left out there.

I will echo a lot of the other posts. Use well known respected registrars.

GonZo · 10-16-2004, 10:38 AM

Stick with trustworthy professionals....
directnic.com

KingOfDice · 10-16-2004, 10:41 AM

Ummm, why would you make screenshots of yourself registering domains?

Anyway its not proof enough for a valid case of any kind i am afraid.. did you use another whois lookup when you checked for availability on the two domains? because it does not seem too far fetched to me that there may have been something wrong with their procesing setup.

Sorry about your infortune, like KRL said unless these are top notch names worth fighting for you probably should just bite the bullet and find another registrar.

jimmyf · 10-16-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
Speedy Domain Registration. I have screen captures and proof of when we bought them. , also proof of when they registered them to themselves.

tell'em you are voting Bush and I bet they will give' em back

SGS · 10-16-2004, 10:48 AM

Why use anyone other than DirectNic? If the domain isnt going to earn the few more pennies a year that it would cost then just leave them where they are.

jimmyf · 10-16-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by optatio
What are the domains ?

Just my , i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =)

I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain.

just a thought

... edit

Gynecologist · 10-16-2004, 10:55 AM

I am pretty sure they are one of the places that don't reg your name right away. They wait a day or 2 and send the domains somewhere else to actually be registered in bulk. So that gives them a chance to look over the domains and see if there are any that they would like to own.

Slick · 10-16-2004, 11:00 AM

That's why I stick with DirectNic.com

Darkystar · 10-16-2004, 01:28 PM

who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?

TheJimmy · 10-16-2004, 01:30 PM

that's uber fuct...

sorry to hear about that...hopefully ICANN can do something for ya...

KittyLix · 10-16-2004, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Darkystar
who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?

That was my thought exactly. That and taking screenshots seems kinda weird.

lazycash · 10-16-2004, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by KittyLix
That was my thought exactly. That and taking screenshots seems kinda weird.

Yep, I had the exact same questions. There are so many decent cheap registrars, not sure why you wouldn't use one that registered your domain in real time.

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Darkystar
who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?

The site was already registered. It was registered to us on the 11th then on the 12th they registered it to themselves. then on the 15th they told us what happened.

A of this morning , i had recieved an email form them saying it was a mistake, and they gave them back

WickedVenus · 10-16-2004, 05:55 PM

The reason why I took screen shot was when I found out they took them I went over to the whois database, and took a screen shot of them having registered it to them selves. The whois database showed that they had registered it the day after we had. I had taken screenshots of that to prove it just incase they tried to change it on my when I contacted them.

I didnt have screenshots of my whois info on it. I had an email reciept showing that it was registerd to me on the 11th.

Does that make sense. If you think its weird to take screen shots showing that someone registered it to themselves the day after I purchased it , then you obviously dont know how to show proof that someone did something.

69pornlinks · 10-16-2004, 06:02 PM

i never heard of that place stick to the well known ones, i have been a user of registerfly lately, but have some at namecheap and YES! (godaddy)

SpeakEasy · 10-16-2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by WickedVenus
Speedy domain registration

Even the name sounds shakey at best

10-16-2004, 01:58 AM	#1
WickedVenus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ICQ: 309691342 ---- Yahoo Messenger: wickedvenus_acv Posts: 3,877	My domain registar stole 2 of our domains I was so mad!! Our company bought 20 domains last week. We then get an email from them to day saying that when we purchased them, that their database was messed up at the time, and two of the domains that we bougt we already sold. We went over to see who owned them, and the company that we used for registar is the registered owner of them. I have gotten screen captures of both them registering it the day after we purchased them, and also showing that the domiains are still being parked with them. I also contacted I-Cann. We have already made logos, and banners, and sites for these domiains. Anyone else know what else to do for domain theft? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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WickedVenus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ICQ: 309691342 ---- Yahoo Messenger: wickedvenus_acv Posts: 3,877	Speedy Domain Registration. I have screen captures and proof of when we bought them. , also proof of when they registered them to themselves. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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10-16-2004, 03:36 AM	#17
optatio Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 154	What are the domains ? Just my , i think it'd be easy for you to prove that they did infact register them but pretty much impossible to prove that their system didn't really mess up =) I don't know how that regstar works but maybe the reason the registered owners info is theirs is because the person registered domain through them and asked for privacy on the domain. just a thought Last edited by optatio; 10-16-2004 at 03:38 AM..

10-16-2004, 03:43 AM	#19
BlueQuartz Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,971	damn that sux! sorry to hear it!

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10-16-2004, 07:27 AM	#25
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10-16-2004, 08:48 AM	#27
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10-16-2004, 08:52 AM	#28
Ordo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,186	I would sue them. The problem is, your case will be based on being able to prove the potential value of each domain thus establishing the speculative loss. If you sue, have as acredited a domain appraiser as you can find appraise the domains to help your case. But, someone needs to take a stand for all the little people things like this happen to and show these companies that continuing on with this act will cost them much more money in the long run. Keep us posted! __________________ Savor Premium Affiliate Area Here

10-16-2004, 09:54 AM	#31
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	I use to use speedydomainregistration.com .. but then I realized that they looked dodgy, even the members area seemed a little off.. I then moved all my domains to registerfly.com I suggest you do the same, then take legal action, or call them or whatever.. you don't want them to terminate your account while they deal with this bullshit.

10-16-2004, 10:08 AM	#33
Furious_Male Doing the grind since 99 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 16,881	What a bunch of shit. Not much honesty left out there. I will echo a lot of the other posts. Use well known respected registrars. __________________ Living in Virtual Reality Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

10-16-2004, 10:38 AM	#34
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10-16-2004, 10:41 AM	#35
KingOfDice Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9	Ummm, why would you make screenshots of yourself registering domains? Anyway its not proof enough for a valid case of any kind i am afraid.. did you use another whois lookup when you checked for availability on the two domains? because it does not seem too far fetched to me that there may have been something wrong with their procesing setup. Sorry about your infortune, like KRL said unless these are top notch names worth fighting for you probably should just bite the bullet and find another registrar.

10-16-2004, 10:48 AM	#37
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Gynecologist Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,184	I am pretty sure they are one of the places that don't reg your name right away. They wait a day or 2 and send the domains somewhere else to actually be registered in bulk. So that gives them a chance to look over the domains and see if there are any that they would like to own.

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Darkystar Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 273	who in their right mind would create site/logo for a domain which hasn't even been registered yet?

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10-16-2004, 05:55 PM	#46
WickedVenus Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ICQ: 309691342 ---- Yahoo Messenger: wickedvenus_acv Posts: 3,877	The reason why I took screen shot was when I found out they took them I went over to the whois database, and took a screen shot of them having registered it to them selves. The whois database showed that they had registered it the day after we had. I had taken screenshots of that to prove it just incase they tried to change it on my when I contacted them. I didnt have screenshots of my whois info on it. I had an email reciept showing that it was registerd to me on the 11th. Does that make sense. If you think its weird to take screen shots showing that someone registered it to themselves the day after I purchased it , then you obviously dont know how to show proof that someone did something. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

10-16-2004, 06:02 PM	#47
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