Fuck IBILL - anyone thinking about a class action suit? - GoFuckYourself.com

boobmaster · 10-14-2004, 06:17 PM

Seems like we are going to have to wait at least 2-3 more weeks to START getting paid (they originally said they would be caught up by 10-31). By then they will be THREE weeks behind. Meanwhile, they continue to bill and rebill customers which we have to pay BW for.

Do they realize that they will probably not have any clients left if they keep delaying payments?

Does anyone in here actually think they are going to pay us a nickle of what they owe us? I forsee a chapter 11 in the very near future. When a company stops answering phone calls and starts avoiding lawyers/creditors, bankrupsy is usually the next step.

If anyone is considering a class action suit, hit me up on ICQ. I'm in.

TheEbonyFelony · 10-14-2004, 06:18 PM

i would rather class sue you for trolling

Webby · 10-14-2004, 06:20 PM

You you know what a Class Action is???? DUH??

It involves more than you..

I doubt anyone would be inclined to participate in any Class Action with ya.

It does take some sense and jugdement along the way.

tony286 · 10-14-2004, 06:20 PM

do you have a short memory? all the others that had problems paid no one shit and then closed. iBill is letting you know yes they will pay its important to them but it will take a little longer. I hope if you ever have financials difficulties the people you owe money too are more patient than you have been. Remember do on to others as you would have them do onto you.

boobmaster · 10-14-2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
You you know what a Class Action is???? DUH??

It involves more than you..

I doubt anyone would be inclined to participate in any Class Action with ya.

It does take some sense and jugdement along the way.

How do you ever expect me to change if you constantly try to bait me into pissing with you?

boobmaster · 10-14-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
i would rather class sue you for trolling

Fuck off, sig whore. I know the difference between a serious post and a troll attempt.

StuartD · 10-14-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster

Do they realize that they will probably not have any clients left if they keep delaying payments?

Do you realize that business is business, and that they can't just up and pay out millions to people when they have millions being lost on a daily basis?

You really are retarded aren't you? You really think that they're sipping bacardi's and laughing their ass off at how they're being slow in paying your lame ass?

No, they've got bigger headaches then you'll ever imagine having and couldn't care less if you don't get your $25.

boobmaster · 10-14-2004, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
do you have a short memory? all the others that had problems paid no one shit and then closed. iBill is letting you know yes they will pay its important to them but it will take a little longer. I hope if you ever have financials difficulties the people you owe money too are more patient than you have been. Remember do on to others as you would have them do onto you.

Your point is well taken. Unfortunately, I (foolishly) had too many of my adult eggs in the ibill basket, so this affects me more seriously than most. It's really hard to know what to believe when you see conflicting info posted all over the boards and ibill NOT answering questions. It looks like they are avoiding the issue, which is NOT a good sign.

boobmaster · 10-14-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by MaskedMan
I really am a retarded moron, aren't I? I married my sister because I got her pregnant in the fourth grade and my mom wouldn't let me have my allowance so we could get an abortion. So here I am, no money, no job, married to my fat retarted sister, and raising my brother/son

So why are you telling me, asshole?

Lawyerssuck · 10-14-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Seems like we are going to have to wait at least 2-3 more weeks to START getting paid (they originally said they would be caught up by 10-31). By then they will be THREE weeks behind. Meanwhile, they continue to bill and rebill customers which we have to pay BW for.

Do they realize that they will probably not have any clients left if they keep delaying payments?

Does anyone in here actually think they are going to pay us a nickle of what they owe us? I forsee a chapter 11 in the very near future. When a company stops answering phone calls and starts avoiding lawyers/creditors, bankrupsy is usually the next step.

If anyone is considering a class action suit, hit me up on ICQ. I'm in.

QUit your bitching. It is getting real old.

Webby · 10-14-2004, 06:49 PM

boobmaster:

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How do you ever expect me to change if you constantly try to bait me into pissing with you?

I sure ain't meaning to "bait" you.

It's just the postings and the judgement that may already have given a clue.

Sure, iBill are in a mess... that is not new. Why has the company been changing hands and "restructuring" so often?

If iBill closed doors tomorrow, a Class Action suit is pointless.

If there is a serious problem that needed action before they closed doors, - it's something that has to happen within hours with the object of securing either funds, databases or whatever.

It's a matter of judgement by others, probably depending on the losses they would suffer if that were to happen.

By luck and some planning, I never allowed iBill to place me in a situation where their downfall would be too significant. But it's clear that is not the case with some other folks and there is obvious concern.

If these folks think iBill is going to be a problem, they may, based on any communications with iBill and their track record, feel a need to act. I can't say for others - they may have a lot to lose - but Class Actions are just words when a company is in shit. Actions now count more, tho some of these actions may be part of the legal process, some possibly not and by negotiation.

What I'm basically saying is ya gotta evaluate the scenario fully and act in your interests to achieve the best outcome.

boobmaster · 10-14-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lawyerssuck
QUit your bitching. It is getting real old.

FUCK OFF, NEWB! WHEN I WANT YOUR OPINION, I'L TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

Seriously, you have 11 fucking posts. STFU

Drake · 10-14-2004, 06:54 PM

Even if Ibill was to go down, why is it much concern to you? You support Bush, right? The party that has demonstrated it won't tolerate porn and may eradicate porn altogether. Maybe you're just going thru what all of us in the industry will go thru some months down the road. No biggie, right? Vote Bush!

WarChild · 10-14-2004, 06:57 PM

God's trying to tell you he doesn't want you selling porn anymore.

Lawyerssuck · 10-14-2004, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
FUCK OFF, NEWB! WHEN I WANT YOUR OPINION, I'L TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

Seriously, you have 11 fucking posts. STFU

Lets take a hard look at this. I have 11 posts that make sense. You have over 5800 posts and everyone of them is just a bunch of fucking bullshit and complaining.

So fuck off asshole.

My 12th post is a classic.

Drake · 10-14-2004, 06:58 PM

Do like any good Republican would. Stop whining about setbacks. Pick yourself up from your bootstraps and get back on track. You're responsible for your life. You can't blame anybody but yourself for your plight.

Does that sound about right?

Shoplifter · 10-14-2004, 07:18 PM

I got my wire today, but you guys should definitely fight the power!

Drake · 10-14-2004, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
I got my wire today, but you guys should definitely fight the power!

Happy to hear that. So that's two wires for you now? Are you up to date on past payments?

Why does it seem like they're paying some clients but not others?

scoreman · 10-14-2004, 07:21 PM

Good luck on getting class certification before First Data is required to pay out.

Your better off suing on an individual basis, its cleaner and would proceed faster to a summary judgement on a breach of contract claim.

tony286 · 10-14-2004, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman
Good luck on getting class certification before First Data is required to pay out.

Your better off suing on an individual basis, its cleaner and would proceed faster to a summary judgement on a breach of contract claim.

What are going to say your honor they had financials problems and it took them a whole 6-8 weeks to be current with me when others just closed or filed bankrupcy. What a waste of the courts time.

Crypt · 10-14-2004, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Seems like we are going to have to wait at least 2-3 more weeks to START getting paid (they originally said they would be caught up by 10-31). By then they will be THREE weeks behind. Meanwhile, they continue to bill and rebill customers which we have to pay BW for.

Do they realize that they will probably not have any clients left if they keep delaying payments?

Does anyone in here actually think they are going to pay us a nickle of what they owe us? I forsee a chapter 11 in the very near future. When a company stops answering phone calls and starts avoiding lawyers/creditors, bankrupsy is usually the next step.

If anyone is considering a class action suit, hit me up on ICQ. I'm in.

Why sue them for your 12$ check .. not really worth it

TheButcher · 10-14-2004, 07:42 PM

still can't get thru to them to get an account, any other 3rd party billing solutions out there?

scoreman · 10-14-2004, 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
What are going to say your honor they had financials problems and it took them a whole 6-8 weeks to be current with me when others just closed or filed bankrupcy. What a waste of the courts time.

First I am not suggesting a lawsuit, only that a class action would likely not be the way to go. Secondly, there is a claim here Tony. You are suggesting in your post that they will pay out soon, what happens if they don't? Would you say after 30 days of non payment there is a claim for breach of contract? 60 days? 90 days?

The contract for iBill states payment will be forwarded as soon as "practicable" but that isnt a carte blanche statement that allows iBill to pay out whenever. Courts will look at past practices to determine what is reasonable and if iBill had established a routine for 7 years of paying out after 7 or 14 days then you have a clear pattern of what is the deal and when it is in breach.

Ok that being said, lets hope payout happens soon so iBill doesnt get swallowed up in legal fees defending itself against claim after claim. That alone could force them to shutter their doors.

Verotel · 10-15-2004, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by nfv
still can't get thru to them to get an account, any other 3rd party billing solutions out there?

Yep.

Doctor Dre · 10-15-2004, 12:42 AM

Dude you aiin't shit anyways ... not like you gonna do something

10-14-2004, 06:17 PM	#1
boobmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,185	Fuck IBILL - anyone thinking about a class action suit? Seems like we are going to have to wait at least 2-3 more weeks to START getting paid (they originally said they would be caught up by 10-31). By then they will be THREE weeks behind. Meanwhile, they continue to bill and rebill customers which we have to pay BW for. Do they realize that they will probably not have any clients left if they keep delaying payments? Does anyone in here actually think they are going to pay us a nickle of what they owe us? I forsee a chapter 11 in the very near future. When a company stops answering phone calls and starts avoiding lawyers/creditors, bankrupsy is usually the next step. If anyone is considering a class action suit, hit me up on ICQ. I'm in.

10-14-2004, 06:18 PM	#2
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	i would rather class sue you for trolling __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

10-14-2004, 06:57 PM	#14
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	God's trying to tell you he doesn't want you selling porn anymore. __________________ .

10-14-2004, 07:21 PM	#19
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	Good luck on getting class certification before First Data is required to pay out. Your better off suing on an individual basis, its cleaner and would proceed faster to a summary judgement on a breach of contract claim. __________________

10-14-2004, 06:20 PM	#3
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	You you know what a Class Action is???? DUH?? It involves more than you.. I doubt anyone would be inclined to participate in any Class Action with ya. It does take some sense and jugdement along the way.

10-14-2004, 06:20 PM	#4
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	do you have a short memory? all the others that had problems paid no one shit and then closed. iBill is letting you know yes they will pay its important to them but it will take a little longer. I hope if you ever have financials difficulties the people you owe money too are more patient than you have been. Remember do on to others as you would have them do onto you.

10-14-2004, 06:54 PM	#13
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Even if Ibill was to go down, why is it much concern to you? You support Bush, right? The party that has demonstrated it won't tolerate porn and may eradicate porn altogether. Maybe you're just going thru what all of us in the industry will go thru some months down the road. No biggie, right? Vote Bush!

10-14-2004, 06:58 PM	#16
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Do like any good Republican would. Stop whining about setbacks. Pick yourself up from your bootstraps and get back on track. You're responsible for your life. You can't blame anybody but yourself for your plight. Does that sound about right?

10-14-2004, 07:18 PM	#17
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,725	I got my wire today, but you guys should definitely fight the power!

10-14-2004, 07:42 PM	#22
TheButcher So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 811	still can't get thru to them to get an account, any other 3rd party billing solutions out there?