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Old 10-14-2004, 03:56 AM   #1
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Askjolene on webwereld.(for Dutch)

http://www.webwereld.nl/nieuws/19760.phtml
BMW heeft Askjolene.com deze week een brief gestuurd waarin gesommeerd wordt om binnen twee dagen te stoppen met het weergeven van zoekresultaten waarin BMW voorkomt. Bovendien moeten websites die BMW in de metatags gebruiken, worden geblokkeerd. De links maken inbreuk op het merk, meent de Duitse autofabrikant.

Wie BMW intikt bij de adult zoekmachine krijgt maar liefst zeven galleries met plaatjes en sites, met en zonder auto.

De mensen achter de zoekmachine, Askjolene Beheer bv, zijn zeer verrast door de actie van BMW. "Waarom komen ze daarvoor bij ons? Denken ze echt dat mensen hier naar 'BMW' gaan zoeken?", vraagt Mike Schwalbach van Askjolene Beheer zich af.

Als Askjolene een probleem krijgt omdat een automerk wordt gebruikt op een pornosite, dan heeft Google ook een probleem, volgens Schwalbach. "De gevolgen hiervan kunnen zo groot zijn."

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Vooralsnog weigert Askjolene, dat dagelijks meer dan twee miljoen zoekopdracht krijgt, aan de eisen van BMW te voldoen. "Het verwijderen of blokkeren sites is niet te doen omdat veel gebruik wordt gemaakt van dynamische ip-adressen."

De eis van de metatags verwijst Askjolene ook naar de prullenbak. "De zoekmachine 'luistert' helemaal niet naar metatags, juist om eventuele misleiding te voorkomen", aldus Schwalbach.


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Old 10-14-2004, 03:57 AM   #2
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holy shit i was just thinking that!!! really!!
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Old 10-14-2004, 04:01 AM   #3
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BMW AG ORDERS AskJolene.com to Remove Search Results
Tuesday October 12, 3:19 pm ET

UITGEEST, The Netherlands, October 12 /PRNewswire/ -- The German car manufacturer BMW AG has ordered adult search engine AskJolene.com to immediately remove a number of results from its index and to blacklist the providers of the documents but AskJolene says it will not yield to the claim.

AskJolene.com collects free erotic contents ("galleries") from the web, and offers its users a dedicated full text search engine to locate galleries of their liking. The results are presented as summaries that link to their original gallery. The galleries are not hosted by AskJolene.com.

BMW AG claims that AskJolene.com infringes on its trademark rights. AskJolene's results for the search query 'bmw' contain galleries in which the word 'bmw' occurs. They also contain pornographic pictures depicting amongst other things a BMW car.

A quote from the BMW AG cease and desist order:

"Cease and desist from, with immediate effect, but ultimately not later than two days after the date of this letter, any more infringements of my clients rights, on the Website and/or any other website(s) it exploits and/or operates, and in particular:

* (a) to stop the showing and/or supplying of Internet weblinks that contain the word BMW; and
* (b) to block access to Internet websites that contain the word BMW either as metatag, in their title and/or as content" (End quote)

AskJolene.com will not yield to the claim. "As far as we know, we haven't done anything wrong. Our search engine is a navigational aid. We provide a way for our users to locate galleries as quick and convenient as possible. If we give in to BMW's claim, other search engines will have a problem as well." according to chief marketing Mike Schwalbach.

About AskJolene: AskJolene.com is a fully featured adult search engine that delivers over two million of search results to users worldwide every day. It has won international acclaim for its accuracy and its ability to deliver a targeted audience to the websites of content providers.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:23 AM   #4
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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041012/uktu013_1.html

BMW AG ORDERS AskJolene.com to Remove Search Results
Tuesday October 12, 3:19 pm ET

UITGEEST, The Netherlands, October 12 /PRNewswire/ -- The German car manufacturer BMW AG has ordered adult search engine AskJolene.com to immediately remove a number of results from its index and to blacklist the providers of the documents but AskJolene says it will not yield to the claim.

AskJolene.com collects free erotic contents ("galleries") from the web, and offers its users a dedicated full text search engine to locate galleries of their liking. The results are presented as summaries that link to their original gallery. The galleries are not hosted by AskJolene.com.

BMW AG claims that AskJolene.com infringes on its trademark rights. AskJolene's results for the search query 'bmw' contain galleries in which the word 'bmw' occurs. They also contain pornographic pictures depicting amongst other things a BMW car.

A quote from the BMW AG cease and desist order:

"Cease and desist from, with immediate effect, but ultimately not later than two days after the date of this letter, any more infringements of my clients rights, on the Website and/or any other website(s) it exploits and/or operates, and in particular:

* (a) to stop the showing and/or supplying of Internet weblinks that contain the word BMW; and
* (b) to block access to Internet websites that contain the word BMW either as metatag, in their title and/or as content" (End quote)

AskJolene.com will not yield to the claim. "As far as we know, we haven't done anything wrong. Our search engine is a navigational aid. We provide a way for our users to locate galleries as quick and convenient as possible. If we give in to BMW's claim, other search engines will have a problem as well." according to chief marketing Mike Schwalbach.

About AskJolene: AskJolene.com is a fully featured adult search engine that delivers over two million of search results to users worldwide every day. It has won international acclaim for its accuracy and its ability to deliver a targeted audience to the websites of content providers.

Not exactly the same :-) But it has todo with this indeed
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:25 AM   #5
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Not exactly the same :-) But it has todo with this indeed

lol, its exactly the same, the webwereld article says bmw asked askjolene.com to remove search results with "bmw" the yahoo article says the exact same thing
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:26 AM   #6
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lol, its exactly the same, the webwereld article says bmw asked askjolene.com to remove search results with "bmw" the yahoo article says the exact same thing
Whatever. Thought it was fun to read how many searches, and they spoke with Mike etc...It has a more "personal" touch.

Or are you saying it's exactly the same
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:27 AM   #7
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Why the hell would someone go to and adult gallery search engine to look up BMW ??? I wonder how BMW found that out, he he he.
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:28 AM   #8
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Not exactly the same :-) But it has todo with this indeed
but almost the same ;)
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:28 AM   #9
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Why the hell would someone go to and adult gallery search engine to look up BMW ??? I wonder how BMW found that out, he he he.
well, it is quite common , people love babes and hot cars , and bmw has hot cars ...
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Whatever. Thought it was fun to read how many searches, and they spoke with Mike etc...It has a more "personal" touch.

Or are you saying it's exactly the same

all I am saying is that it has the same subject , askjolene.com is asked by bmw to remove search results
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:44 AM   #11
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all I am saying is that it has the same subject , askjolene.com is asked by bmw to remove search results
Yeah that was posted here already 3 days ago, the news is, that it's now on the Dutch "news" with some comments from AJ self

Oh well
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Old 10-14-2004, 07:19 AM   #12
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Yeah that was posted here already 3 days ago, the news is, that it's now on the Dutch "news" with some comments from AJ self

Oh well
Mike has commented extensively in english.
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Whatever. Thought it was fun to read how many searches, and they spoke with Mike etc...It has a more "personal" touch.

Or are you saying it's exactly the same
Hi andres nice of you pointing this stuff out : )

We have been in several news sites and papers. including ones in Germany/Japan/China/Spain/Holland and French.

We hope that this matter will have a succesfull end.
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Old 10-14-2004, 09:08 AM   #14
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Andre FYI

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Hi andres nice of you pointing this stuff out : )

We have been in several news sites and papers. including ones in Germany/Japan/China/Spain/Holland and French.

We hope that this matter will have a succesfull end.

I am guessing you folks can't lose with the free exposure you had over the last couple of days


that and the fact that bmw has NO case whatsoever
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but almost the same ;)
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I am guessing you folks can't lose with the free exposure you had over the last couple of days


that and the fact that bmw has NO case whatsoever
We really hope so too, we still have to wait and investigate what options are legal and possible for us.
We keep you updated on AskJolene
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