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  • justsexxx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Aug 2001
    • 13723

    #1

    Askjolene on webwereld.(for Dutch)

    http://www.webwereld.nl/nieuws/19760.phtml
    BMW heeft Askjolene.com deze week een brief gestuurd waarin gesommeerd wordt om binnen twee dagen te stoppen met het weergeven van zoekresultaten waarin BMW voorkomt. Bovendien moeten websites die BMW in de metatags gebruiken, worden geblokkeerd. De links maken inbreuk op het merk, meent de Duitse autofabrikant.

    Wie BMW intikt bij de adult zoekmachine krijgt maar liefst zeven galleries met plaatjes en sites, met en zonder auto.

    De mensen achter de zoekmachine, Askjolene Beheer bv, zijn zeer verrast door de actie van BMW. "Waarom komen ze daarvoor bij ons? Denken ze echt dat mensen hier naar 'BMW' gaan zoeken?", vraagt Mike Schwalbach van Askjolene Beheer zich af.

    Als Askjolene een probleem krijgt omdat een automerk wordt gebruikt op een pornosite, dan heeft Google ook een probleem, volgens Schwalbach. "De gevolgen hiervan kunnen zo groot zijn."

    Metatags
    Vooralsnog weigert Askjolene, dat dagelijks meer dan twee miljoen zoekopdracht krijgt, aan de eisen van BMW te voldoen. "Het verwijderen of blokkeren sites is niet te doen omdat veel gebruik wordt gemaakt van dynamische ip-adressen."

    De eis van de metatags verwijst Askjolene ook naar de prullenbak. "De zoekmachine 'luistert' helemaal niet naar metatags, juist om eventuele misleiding te voorkomen", aldus Schwalbach.


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  • kmanrox
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    • Oct 2001
    • 29295

    #2
    holy shit i was just thinking that!!! really!!
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    • chemicaleyes
      UNSTOPPABLE
      • Aug 2003
      • 11569

      #3
      http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041012/uktu013_1.html

      BMW AG ORDERS AskJolene.com to Remove Search Results
      Tuesday October 12, 3:19 pm ET

      UITGEEST, The Netherlands, October 12 /PRNewswire/ -- The German car manufacturer BMW AG has ordered adult search engine AskJolene.com to immediately remove a number of results from its index and to blacklist the providers of the documents but AskJolene says it will not yield to the claim.

      AskJolene.com collects free erotic contents ("galleries") from the web, and offers its users a dedicated full text search engine to locate galleries of their liking. The results are presented as summaries that link to their original gallery. The galleries are not hosted by AskJolene.com.

      BMW AG claims that AskJolene.com infringes on its trademark rights. AskJolene's results for the search query 'bmw' contain galleries in which the word 'bmw' occurs. They also contain pornographic pictures depicting amongst other things a BMW car.

      A quote from the BMW AG cease and desist order:

      "Cease and desist from, with immediate effect, but ultimately not later than two days after the date of this letter, any more infringements of my clients rights, on the Website and/or any other website(s) it exploits and/or operates, and in particular:

      * (a) to stop the showing and/or supplying of Internet weblinks that contain the word BMW; and
      * (b) to block access to Internet websites that contain the word BMW either as metatag, in their title and/or as content" (End quote)

      AskJolene.com will not yield to the claim. "As far as we know, we haven't done anything wrong. Our search engine is a navigational aid. We provide a way for our users to locate galleries as quick and convenient as possible. If we give in to BMW's claim, other search engines will have a problem as well." according to chief marketing Mike Schwalbach.

      About AskJolene: AskJolene.com is a fully featured adult search engine that delivers over two million of search results to users worldwide every day. It has won international acclaim for its accuracy and its ability to deliver a targeted audience to the websites of content providers.
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      • justsexxx
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Aug 2001
        • 13723

        #4
        Originally posted by chemicaleyes
        http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041012/uktu013_1.html

        BMW AG ORDERS AskJolene.com to Remove Search Results
        Tuesday October 12, 3:19 pm ET

        UITGEEST, The Netherlands, October 12 /PRNewswire/ -- The German car manufacturer BMW AG has ordered adult search engine AskJolene.com to immediately remove a number of results from its index and to blacklist the providers of the documents but AskJolene says it will not yield to the claim.

        AskJolene.com collects free erotic contents ("galleries") from the web, and offers its users a dedicated full text search engine to locate galleries of their liking. The results are presented as summaries that link to their original gallery. The galleries are not hosted by AskJolene.com.

        BMW AG claims that AskJolene.com infringes on its trademark rights. AskJolene's results for the search query 'bmw' contain galleries in which the word 'bmw' occurs. They also contain pornographic pictures depicting amongst other things a BMW car.

        A quote from the BMW AG cease and desist order:

        "Cease and desist from, with immediate effect, but ultimately not later than two days after the date of this letter, any more infringements of my clients rights, on the Website and/or any other website(s) it exploits and/or operates, and in particular:

        * (a) to stop the showing and/or supplying of Internet weblinks that contain the word BMW; and
        * (b) to block access to Internet websites that contain the word BMW either as metatag, in their title and/or as content" (End quote)

        AskJolene.com will not yield to the claim. "As far as we know, we haven't done anything wrong. Our search engine is a navigational aid. We provide a way for our users to locate galleries as quick and convenient as possible. If we give in to BMW's claim, other search engines will have a problem as well." according to chief marketing Mike Schwalbach.

        About AskJolene: AskJolene.com is a fully featured adult search engine that delivers over two million of search results to users worldwide every day. It has won international acclaim for its accuracy and its ability to deliver a targeted audience to the websites of content providers.

        Not exactly the same :-) But it has todo with this indeed
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        • Fake Nick
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 7708

          #5
          Originally posted by justsexxx
          Not exactly the same :-) But it has todo with this indeed

          lol, its exactly the same, the webwereld article says bmw asked askjolene.com to remove search results with "bmw" the yahoo article says the exact same thing

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          • justsexxx
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2001
            • 13723

            #6
            Originally posted by Fake Nick
            lol, its exactly the same, the webwereld article says bmw asked askjolene.com to remove search results with "bmw" the yahoo article says the exact same thing
            Whatever. Thought it was fun to read how many searches, and they spoke with Mike etc...It has a more "personal" touch.

            Or are you saying it's exactly the same
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            • Slick
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2001
              • 7338

              #7
              Why the hell would someone go to and adult gallery search engine to look up BMW ??? I wonder how BMW found that out, he he he.

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              • Mefo
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2002
                • 6169

                #8
                Originally posted by justsexxx
                Not exactly the same :-) But it has todo with this indeed
                but almost the same ;)

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                • Fake Nick
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 7708

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Slick
                  Why the hell would someone go to and adult gallery search engine to look up BMW ??? I wonder how BMW found that out, he he he.
                  well, it is quite common , people love babes and hot cars , and bmw has hot cars ...

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                  • Fake Nick
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 7708

                    #10
                    Originally posted by justsexxx
                    Whatever. Thought it was fun to read how many searches, and they spoke with Mike etc...It has a more "personal" touch.

                    Or are you saying it's exactly the same

                    all I am saying is that it has the same subject , askjolene.com is asked by bmw to remove search results

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                    • justsexxx
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 13723

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fake Nick
                      all I am saying is that it has the same subject , askjolene.com is asked by bmw to remove search results
                      Yeah that was posted here already 3 days ago, the news is, that it's now on the Dutch "news" with some comments from AJ self

                      Oh well
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                      • pimplink
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 9535

                        #12
                        Originally posted by justsexxx
                        Yeah that was posted here already 3 days ago, the news is, that it's now on the Dutch "news" with some comments from AJ self

                        Oh well
                        Mike has commented extensively in english.

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                        • pornomatic
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 5607

                          #13
                          Originally posted by justsexxx
                          Whatever. Thought it was fun to read how many searches, and they spoke with Mike etc...It has a more "personal" touch.

                          Or are you saying it's exactly the same
                          Hi andres nice of you pointing this stuff out : )

                          We have been in several news sites and papers. including ones in Germany/Japan/China/Spain/Holland and French.

                          We hope that this matter will have a succesfull end.

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                          • pornomatic
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 5607

                            #14
                            Andre FYI

                            http://www.emerce.nl/nieuws.jsp?id=385799

                            http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/19760.phtml

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                            • Fake Nick
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 7708

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pornomatic
                              Hi andres nice of you pointing this stuff out : )

                              We have been in several news sites and papers. including ones in Germany/Japan/China/Spain/Holland and French.

                              We hope that this matter will have a succesfull end.

                              I am guessing you folks can't lose with the free exposure you had over the last couple of days


                              that and the fact that bmw has NO case whatsoever

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                              • Sebo de Macho
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2004
                                • 336

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Mefo
                                but almost the same ;)
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                                • pornomatic
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2003
                                  • 5607

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                  I am guessing you folks can't lose with the free exposure you had over the last couple of days


                                  that and the fact that bmw has NO case whatsoever
                                  We really hope so too, we still have to wait and investigate what options are legal and possible for us.
                                  We keep you updated on AskJolene

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