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momo · 10-13-2004, 05:29 PM

iBill "Won't Close Its Doors," Negotiates First Data Reserve Release
By: Charles Farrar
10-13-2004

DEERFIELD BEACH, Fla. - Amidst a small flood of new speculation hitting the Adult webmaster message boards this week, Internet Billing Co. (iBill) insists it will not close its doors and that it is negotiating the release of six-month client Visa reserves said to be held by its now-former processing bank, First Data Bank.

In addition, executive vice president Cathy Beardsley said October 13 that iBill has begun releasing funds to webmasters. "We recognize all past-due amounts," she said responding to queries from AVNOnline.com, "and we will ensure that all clients are brought current on money owed."

Beardsley said First Data still holds clients' Visa reserves and that iBill is working through attorneys to get them released. "At this present time, we would prefer to negotiate with First Data [rather than] litigate."

Some speculation has suggested iBill might be compelled to sue First Data, provoking in turn iBill and First Data being sued by stranded clients, but Beardsley said no additional legal actions have yet been taken.

She also said reserves for clients with iBill?s new processing bank ? believed but unconfirmed to be Long Island, N.Y.-based Merrick Bank ? will be established for clients for a six-month period. Beardsley also re-emphasized that iBill will not close, in spite of rumors that if the company could not resolve its reserves situation it would be out of business within a week.

"iBill has no intentions of closing its doors," Beardsley said emphatically. "As previously stated, iBill is implementing a domestic Visa processing solution and plans to honor any outstanding payments to webmasters." She didn't say exactly when those payments would be made, however.

Earlier this month, iBill announced they were ceasing to process Visa transactions until "proper compliance for our U.S. merchants" was ensured, meaning each U.S.-sponsored merchant would have to complete their new iBill merchant agreement with iBill's new domestic bank. iBill said they would continue processing for other credit cards and payment alternatives without interruption.

Beardsley said "a large portion of our client base" has finished those applications, but iBill isn't doing American processing yet, despite a new start point of October 8 the company announced toward the end of September. "Direct contracts are nearing final approval stages with the bank," she said.

Beardsley also confirmed that new $1,500 Visa fees are being asked of previously existing iBill clients ? but at the insistence of its new bank. "It's a requirement of the association," she said, without offering further explanations due to confidentiality requirements.

Last month, iBill's bank agreement with First Data expired and iBill lost a bid in New York State Supreme Court to compel First Data to honor what iBill called an agreement to help it transition to its new bank, whose deal with iBill is due to begin officially November 1.

Almost a week later, iBill announced a deal it said would help the company continue processing, without disclosing who its transitional partner was other than to say it was a domestic acquirer and settlement bank. Two days later, iBill released a formal statement to client webmasters saying that, while continuing to try prying settlement funds out of First Data their top priority is getting their client Webmasters paid.

That statement announced the suspension of Visa transactions until the U.S.-sponsored merchants finished their new merchant agreements with iBill's new domestic bank, while iBill said they would continue processing MasterCard, Discover, JCB, American Express, Online checks, Web 900, and WebPhone transactions.

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=201119

momo · 10-13-2004, 05:32 PM

uchase/webpry · 10-13-2004, 05:33 PM

will file chapter11 before this week ends, mark my words.

- will not get iso status
- will not sponsor webmasters with merchant account

pornguy · 10-13-2004, 05:35 PM

This sounds a little like what happened to website billing right???

uchase/webpry · 10-13-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
This sounds a little like what happened to website billing right???

WSB was different, believe me.

MattO · 10-13-2004, 05:39 PM

Long Island, N.Y.-based Merrick Bank - off by about 12 time zones

WarChild · 10-13-2004, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
WSB was different, believe me.

WSB was straight up fraud. Fuck I'd love to get my hands on one of their VPs.

Webby · 10-13-2004, 05:41 PM

Well... that's the "statement" and policy stuff.

Reality may be different if ya consider all other such statements by companies with a problem.

On the flip side of the coin, iBill have problems and it will be 100% down to the management to guide them thru this, if possible. It is not an easy time.

I just hope the management have what it takes to at least get a workaround in place, but there are lessons to be taken from this - just hope they absorb em :-)

Till will tell...

momo · 10-13-2004, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
Well... that's the "statement" and policy stuff.

Reality may be different if ya consider all other such statements by companies with a problem.

On the flip side of the coin, iBill have problems and it will be 100% down to the management to guide them thru this, if possible. It is not an easy time.

I just hope the management have what it takes to at least get a workaround in place, but there are lessons to be taken from this - just hope they absorb em :-)

Till will tell...

true...

i find it annoying though that they "update" avn instead of cmi...

quiet · 10-13-2004, 07:11 PM

crock

Shoplifter · 10-13-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
will file chapter11 before this week ends, mark my words.

- will not get iso status
- will not sponsor webmasters with merchant account

All they have to do is make it to the 1st and they have their license to print money back.

I think that they will at least make the attempt seeing as they already have the deal with the new bank.

I still have confidence they are going to stay, the issue is just how much of a pain things get to be in the meantime.

keyboard warrior · 10-13-2004, 09:07 PM

had a long talk with a rep today.

things are going uphill real soon!

Shoplifter · 10-13-2004, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyboard warrior
had a long talk with a rep today.

things are going uphill real soon!

Well spill it...

OnTime · 10-13-2004, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyboard warrior
had a long talk with a rep today.

things are going uphill real soon!

What did you hear?

NinjaSteve · 10-13-2004, 10:39 PM

I tried to join a site the other day so I could get off, but noooooooooooooo ibill doesn't accept visa.

10-13-2004, 05:29 PM	#1
momo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western Hemisphere Posts: 245	IBILL UPDATE ON AVN iBill "Won't Close Its Doors," Negotiates First Data Reserve Release By: Charles Farrar 10-13-2004 DEERFIELD BEACH, Fla. - Amidst a small flood of new speculation hitting the Adult webmaster message boards this week, Internet Billing Co. (iBill) insists it will not close its doors and that it is negotiating the release of six-month client Visa reserves said to be held by its now-former processing bank, First Data Bank. In addition, executive vice president Cathy Beardsley said October 13 that iBill has begun releasing funds to webmasters. "We recognize all past-due amounts," she said responding to queries from AVNOnline.com, "and we will ensure that all clients are brought current on money owed." Beardsley said First Data still holds clients' Visa reserves and that iBill is working through attorneys to get them released. "At this present time, we would prefer to negotiate with First Data [rather than] litigate." Some speculation has suggested iBill might be compelled to sue First Data, provoking in turn iBill and First Data being sued by stranded clients, but Beardsley said no additional legal actions have yet been taken. She also said reserves for clients with iBill?s new processing bank ? believed but unconfirmed to be Long Island, N.Y.-based Merrick Bank ? will be established for clients for a six-month period. Beardsley also re-emphasized that iBill will not close, in spite of rumors that if the company could not resolve its reserves situation it would be out of business within a week. "iBill has no intentions of closing its doors," Beardsley said emphatically. "As previously stated, iBill is implementing a domestic Visa processing solution and plans to honor any outstanding payments to webmasters." She didn't say exactly when those payments would be made, however. Earlier this month, iBill announced they were ceasing to process Visa transactions until "proper compliance for our U.S. merchants" was ensured, meaning each U.S.-sponsored merchant would have to complete their new iBill merchant agreement with iBill's new domestic bank. iBill said they would continue processing for other credit cards and payment alternatives without interruption. Beardsley said "a large portion of our client base" has finished those applications, but iBill isn't doing American processing yet, despite a new start point of October 8 the company announced toward the end of September. "Direct contracts are nearing final approval stages with the bank," she said. Beardsley also confirmed that new $1,500 Visa fees are being asked of previously existing iBill clients ? but at the insistence of its new bank. "It's a requirement of the association," she said, without offering further explanations due to confidentiality requirements. Last month, iBill's bank agreement with First Data expired and iBill lost a bid in New York State Supreme Court to compel First Data to honor what iBill called an agreement to help it transition to its new bank, whose deal with iBill is due to begin officially November 1. Almost a week later, iBill announced a deal it said would help the company continue processing, without disclosing who its transitional partner was other than to say it was a domestic acquirer and settlement bank. Two days later, iBill released a formal statement to client webmasters saying that, while continuing to try prying settlement funds out of First Data their top priority is getting their client Webmasters paid. That statement announced the suspension of Visa transactions until the U.S.-sponsored merchants finished their new merchant agreements with iBill's new domestic bank, while iBill said they would continue processing MasterCard, Discover, JCB, American Express, Online checks, Web 900, and WebPhone transactions. http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=201119

10-13-2004, 05:32 PM	#2
momo Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Western Hemisphere Posts: 245	bump

10-13-2004, 05:33 PM	#3
uchase/webpry So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Do you use sex.com's XML feed, try ours and make double the money. Posts: 2,085	will file chapter11 before this week ends, mark my words. - will not get iso status - will not sponsor webmasters with merchant account Last edited by uchase/webpry; 10-13-2004 at 05:36 PM..

10-13-2004, 05:35 PM	#4
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10-13-2004, 07:11 PM	#10
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	crock __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-13-2004, 05:39 PM	#6
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	Long Island, N.Y.-based Merrick Bank - off by about 12 time zones

10-13-2004, 05:41 PM	#8
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Well... that's the "statement" and policy stuff. Reality may be different if ya consider all other such statements by companies with a problem. On the flip side of the coin, iBill have problems and it will be 100% down to the management to guide them thru this, if possible. It is not an easy time. I just hope the management have what it takes to at least get a workaround in place, but there are lessons to be taken from this - just hope they absorb em :-) Till will tell...

10-13-2004, 09:07 PM	#12
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	had a long talk with a rep today. things are going uphill real soon! __________________ - nothing here -

10-13-2004, 10:39 PM	#15
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	I tried to join a site the other day so I could get off, but noooooooooooooo ibill doesn't accept visa. __________________ ...