No - Lensman collects the sales and the information ...
iBill.com only processes it.

Are you now saying that iBill.com own's those sales?

Answer the question.

No, Ibill collects the information on their servers, with their sign up page using their security certificate.

Lensman sends the surfer to them for the signup process.

Too stupid for words John.

You are so stupid it's almost unbelievable.

Don't worry, you can write the 10 minutes down you just wasted explaining this to him on your resume under "Volunteer work: helping the mentally handicapped in my spare time."

:1orglaugh

Lensman - initiates - the collection of the information - he chooses which place will hold that information.

He - initiates the sale.

NOT FUCKING IBILL.COM.

It's his information.

He initiates it is a damn site different than he collects it. Now isn't it?

Ibill.com collects the information. They can release the database to another billing company, but as I understand it not to an individual.

Now John, think about it for a second. If it were any other way, then third party billers wouldn't be a "secure" solution for the customer, now would it? The fact that paysite owners don't have your credit card number is a selling feature for customers.

That's all I'm going to explain to you about third party billing. You're so stupid you'll never be able to make any money so there's no sense wasting anymore time.

iBill.com is a software program that collects and processes the receipts for Lensman's sales.

Unfortunately, like other software programs that PURPOSELY try to not let you export YOUR INFORMATION to the competitors software programs - Lensman got caught.

And this is the sole reason why iBill.com will now fold.
Individuals and corporatons are fucking tired of this tactic.

Bye bye - iBill.com ...

The expert has spoken.

Yes ...
I have some skills.

The first thing that I do when choosing a software program is examine the programs "EXPORTING" capabilities.

If the software can NOT export to a standard format ...

Don't buy it.

Because your firm/corporation will become hostage to them.

It's quite simple.

And after a decade of this strategy ... many many IT Mangers know of this tactic.

iBill.com - BYE BYE ...

Lensman has called your bluff and you will change your policy or you will fold.

YOU ARE SO STUPID IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY.

Ibill is not software, any more than CCBill or Paycom are software. Windows is software, Photoshop is software, IBill is NOT software you dumbass cocksucker. Now go and get some fucking medical attention immediately.

I know you won't understand this, but just so nobody else is confused by your bullshit I'll explain it a little more.

Ibill.com is not a software program. Ibill.com is a url for Ibill's third party billing solution.

Ibill has/had merchant accounts with banks that will accept high risk transactions (adult). You send customers to them for sign ups. They collect the information, bill the customer (with their merchant account), supply customer service to your end user (surfer), supply (in some cases) affiliate managment and pay your affiliates and manage your password database.

As I understand it, Visa/MC have a policy stating that collected customer credit card information can NOT be released to anybody but another billing company. That is, Lensman can't get a "copy" of the database. Lensman may be able to move his customer database to another biller.

So as you see, Ibill is not a "software program".

As always, John Beacock is clueless. Please don't pay him any mind in regards to anything important.

iBill.com is exactly online software.
Nothing else.

They are just software that a corporation chooses to purchase online as they go.

Nothing else.

You are so fucking stupid it's not even making us laugh any more.

SO FUCKING OWNED BY KIMMY KIM.

( I'm about 99.99% sure that KK knows what she's talking about!)

Hey, I heard that:mad:

sexed has got to be the most delusional person in the history of GFY

:1orglaugh

Now that that's settled. Where were we again? Oh right, recurring databases. That's it. Go on, discuss. Will Ibill be releasing them?

Maybe we're not a big program, but we have the same problem with some old rebills:(
Hey Lensmen, let me know how it works out:thumbsup

i guess since i see ibills banner on gfy again , that they complied ? did they pay you all the money they owe you ?

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close man, but better luck next time :thumbsup

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ibill has payed all debts.

Yeah... good company! They even offered $25K for the costs of chasing them and listening to their lies, but of course, I refused. They need the cash to start again. Don't like taking liberties with honorable people with good intentions.

fuck ibill in the ass