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Bow to the Power!!!

Yeah thats why you asked Lens if he backed up his recurrs. THe vaginal orgasm isnt a lie ..... you are!

Wonder is Lensman will let them advertise Here again?

I would assume Lensmans account is not small.

I think the damage has mostly been done.

It seems in the information age, they are not releasing someone elses information.

iBill.com will pay for this one.

I doubt they will get more new MAJOR accounts until they make a public statement that they will NOT STEAL the information beloning to others ..

it's so crystal it's crazy ...

They are NOT releasing so far - Lensman private information - and therefore have lost all new clients - I would assume - until they make a public statement otherwise.

No NATS - No Nuts
Lensman - has 'em both.

Why are you trusting who you are with?

Gonzo ...
no topic change - go solve your own bored [pun intended] problems ...

Awww Johnny are you that bored that we need to come visiting again so you can censor all the posts. Youve proven not only that your mentally unstable but that you havent a clue what a blog is...how pinned threads work .... that its a sponsor not a supplier and now that you dont even know what a rebill is.... because youve never had any. I guess youd need to be in the business to understand.

Got have 7 more PBRs while you wash your Ice Cream truck and your Chuck E Cheese uniform dries.

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is that a pabst blue ribbon PBR's?

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It's not about Ibill. It's a visa/mastercard regulation. You cannot transfer the re-bill accounts in the manner you are suggesting.

There may be a more creative solution. Perhaps something can be arranged in a "backroom-deal", there it can be done but not if visa/mastercard knows. And it's going to be hard to hide that kind of volume transfering to another merchant account.

-Tony

7 of em will have you driving the Ice Cream truck round and round all the Kids R Kids at 4am in the morning in Canada...better stop before 5 though....gotto be at McDonalds to get the Egg Mcmuffins ready and then its off to kindergarden right at lunch time and then to Chuck E Cheese....one busy MasterBlogger!

With a third party biller its not your info ,its not your customers they belong to the third party biller. Whether its wrong or right thats a whole other story. One of the benefits no one talks about having your own merchant account is the customers are yours not someone else's. your bank has problems you take your customers with you. If I was a big player I would be managing my own merchant account even if I had to hire a guy and his only job was to manage and watch it . He would be the one turning the scrubbing up or down depending on the cb ratio's.

MarkIbill wont let you have any databases.

just ask him.

hello confucy, you sexy bitch !!!

we need kimmykim's input in this thread! :helpme

Makes sense to me. There's going to be a lot of confusion when the descriptor quietly changes from "IBILLCS" to "EPOCH" or "CCBILL." Members consented to the billing arrangement with iBill when they signed up.

The "email existing members with unbelievable offers" trick may be the only alternative. I did this when PSW went under, from memory the takeup rate was only about 25-30%.

3rd party processors can release databases, if they wish,the issue is whether the new procesor is willing to take the risk by processing the imported transactions, that was the big issue when i had this done years ago, the files had to go directly from one processor to the other, i could not touch them

ibill can release them, and if their decision to hold onto them (in the hopes that there client will not move), costs you $$$, then you can attack them legally, but i am sure that the threat may be enough

its simple good business, dont take your clients rebills down with you, every day that those rebills are not rebilled, they are worth less

you are the only big program owner i have heard ask about this, either the other larger ones with much to lose have already done this, or are working on it quietly

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Confucy isnt here shes moving into her trailer....

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Um, hello stupid little man in need of immediate medical attention.

Lensman doesn't own that database, Ibill does. And one would hope it's in his contract that they have to release it in case of default. Or that they will release it to him if he asks.

So KK is it over with Ibill? You probably know as much or more about all this as I do and it looks gloomy indeed. Most of the VIP's I know who haven't packed their bags are giving it no more than this week for a concrete announcement from them. What is going on in Florida?

I'm in California, not Florida ;)

Databases can be transferred from one bank or processor to another -- provided both processors, banks and the card associations approve the transfer.

The comments about losing members due to descriptor changes are very valid ones as well, just keep that in mind.

good one

I remember this, but it was not just Lensman, was a bunch of other big guys.

Glad it was you that brings up it and not me. :Graucho

"little man" nope ..
"little playa" probably ...

wrong though ..

Those are LENSMAN CUSTOMERS ...they are LENSMANS RECEIPTS ... the are NOT the third processors information.

The processor only stored the information but did not collect it.
The collector owns the information NOT the processor.

That would be like saying the bank owns all the information to the customer cheques you deposited and not the company ..


Explain why this would be different in this case ..."little girl"..

Quit talking about stuff you know nothing about. You're the same idiot that thought NATS was a third party auditing system to prevent shaving.

Nats doesn't prevent shaving?
Or are you going to continue to quote 1 out of 20 posts about nats not "specifically" correct?

Does NATS in comparison to other programs - inhibit shaving?
YES or NO?

keyboard warrior:

I'd think it just does not matter a damn what anyone at iBill thinks on databases - others can be asked for a judgement on this and have it imposed, whether iBill "like it" or not.

Tho.. there sure as plenty other problems, even if this is forthcoming! It still means "loss" at some level.

I already told you what NATS was in one of your other posts where you insisted on calling it a third party auditing system. Not my fault that your obvious reading disorder prevented you from grasping it.

I don't think you're the type of person that should be giving program owners advice.

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You are so stupid it's astounding really.

A THIRD PARTY BILLER COLLECTS ALL THE INFORMATION AND PASSES YOU AN APPROVAL OR A DECLINE. LENSMAN NEVER COLLECTED OR SAW THE CREDIT CARD INFORMATION FOR HIS CUSTOMERS.

Learn SOMETHING about the subject matter before opening your mouth.

What is wrong with you?
If it wasn't for Lensman THEY WOULD HAVE NO INFORMATION !!!
He is the collector of the information - the third party processor has no right to deny HIS INFORMATION.

Answer this question, does a bank have the right to use your information, from cheques deposited, or does that information belong to the company which made the sale?

Answer the question!!

Can sexed be banned for being "too stupid"?

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh if that was the case then half og gfy would have to be axed also

Sorry you're too stupid to argue with on this topic.

IBill collects the information you idiot. That is the problem.

If it wasn't for Lensman THEY WOULD HAVE NO INFORMATION !!!
He is the collector of the information - the third party processor has no right to deny HIS INFORMATION.

Answer this question, does a bank have the right to use your information, from cheques deposited, or does that information belong to the company which made the sale?

Answer the question!!

hehe, that would solve the problem......

where is the J team when needed?