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European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:04 PM

GFY paging Andrew.. come in Andrew.

Regards,

Lee

Sharky · 10-12-2004, 07:06 PM

Todd,

It's our policy, as is yours, not to show off clients work until it is launched(without the clients permission).

I know Lee and Gary are good people, they've always been good to me. I'm just wondering what the circumstances were that led up to this? I've always known Andrew and company to be good people with good biz sense. It seems out of the ordinary for them.

jimmyf · 10-12-2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
sextoyking is a wanker, the whole web knows it ... and he is the only guy defending you ... what a joke !!

wanker ?

what's a wanker ?

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Yet i dont see any of them backing your claims up.

Post proof / names / urls or shut the fuck up.

This is getting old now.

Regards,

Lee

... look at all the beautifull stuff they have done for you:

remake of http://www.europeanwebmasters.com/

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...rs/1/index.html
http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...rs/2/index.html
http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...rs/3/index.html

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...a/main_eng.html

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...ew_banners.html

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharky
It seems out of the ordinary for them.

Agreed.

Either way once we receive their invoice we'll pay it. Unfortunately the fact that Andrew / BDS seem to be ignoring this issue isnt helping anyone

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... look at all the beautifull stuff they have done for you:

remake of http://www.europeanwebmasters.com/

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...rs/1/index.html
http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...rs/2/index.html
http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...rs/3/index.html

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...a/main_eng.html

http://www.bluedesignstudios.com/hp...ew_banners.html

Okay thats BDS.

Now where are the other designers?

Thank you again for proving that others had access to our un-completed works to

Regards,

Lee

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
wanker ?

what's a wanker ?

it's a synonym for sextoyking !!!

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:11 PM

Oh Yeah before i forget..

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 10-12-2004, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Agreed.

Either way once we receive their invoice we'll pay it. Unfortunately the fact that Andrew / BDS seem to be ignoring this issue isnt helping anyone

Regards,

Lee

I sent the invoice you requested to the email address you provided approximatly 6 hours ago. Did you get it?

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Oh Yeah before i forget..

Regards,

Lee

as a webmaster I would stay away, you've should have found an invoice in your inbox this morning ... now pay !!!

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I sent the invoice you requested to the email address you provided approximatly 6 hours ago. Did you get it?

I havent heard anything from accounts.

Please send it to me directly and also cc [email protected] on it to please

So out of interest...

How did uchase get to see our un-finished designs that you were doing?

Regards,

Lee

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
How did uchase get to see our un-finished designs that you were doing?

... we've been fucking and sucking each other of for years now ... you wouldn't believe the stunts andrew can do with his cock.

... accounting departement, don't make me laught ... you and your ONE MAN COMPANY ... how about we post the invoice here ??

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... we've been fucking and sucking each other of for years now ... you wouldn't believe the stunts andrew can do with hs cock.

... accounting departement, don't make me laught ... you and your ONE MAN COMPANY ... how about we post the invoice here ??

If Andrew wants to post the invoice here thats his pergogative

As for the 'one man company' comment, its clear to me now you really dont have a clue

Regards,

Lee

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I sent the invoice you requested to the email address you provided approximatly 6 hours ago. Did you get it?

Got your invoice dated tomorrow

Regards,

Lee

sextoyking · 10-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sharky
Todd,

It's our policy, as is yours, not to show off clients work until it is launched(without the clients permission).

I know Lee and Gary are good people, they've always been good to me. I'm just wondering what the circumstances were that led up to this? I've always known Andrew and company to be good people with good biz sense. It seems out of the ordinary for them.

Sharky,

Yeh I hear you. Dunno in this case about who, what, or where

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
As for the 'one man company' comment, its clear to me now you really dont have a clue

... we'll I do know that my little gay story just made you cream your pants, fag.

sextoyking · 10-12-2004, 07:28 PM

Lee,

don't sweat this little fool, oh I mean troll. You can see how he chases ppl around on the boards talking shit and posting worthless crap all the time.

I guess he figures that is good for "marketing" Another boy is born every day I suppose.

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
How did uchase get to see our un-finished designs that you were doing?

Just in case you missed it Andrew.

I figure im at least owed an explanation to this simple question

Regards,

Lee

sarettah · 10-12-2004, 07:32 PM

I've been following this whole thing and would wonder if bluedesigns knew that uchase was doing this shit on his behalf or not.

My best guess would be no.

but then again, I've been wrong before (and probably will be again)

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah
My best guess would be no.

My guess would be that your question and mine about how uchase got to see the incomplete design in the first place will go un-answered

Regards,

Lee

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarettah
I've been following this whole thing and would wonder if bluedesigns knew that uchase was doing this shit on his behalf or not.

My best guess would be no.

... finaly lee pays, special clients simply need special treatment, it's all good !!

sarettah · 10-12-2004, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... finaly lee pays, special clients simply need special treatment, it's all good !!

So Bluedesigns hired you to do collections ?

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... finaly lee pays, special clients simply need special treatment, it's all good !!

Um no..

We havent paid.

We have 'received' the invoice he sent.

Ill allow you the privellage of being able to bump this thread for around 5-7 days while the invoice gets processed by accts

Regards,

Lee

XPays · 10-12-2004, 07:43 PM

todd posted Days ago stalking a client for back-owed money krl. so even he won't agree with your settle privately perfect world scenario.

bluedesign got an email from me to call me about http://HotelHeiress.com and my phone rang 2 seconds after i pressed send. every change, fix, misspelling, distorted graphic and nitpickey request was handled professionally and accurately.

i am glad i paid up front too!! bluedesign makes a living creating designs and would not imho initiate a collections on what could be a recurring customer unless they were left with little other recourse.

also- it looks like the invoice will be paid- so the tactic worked.

todd- did you ever collect the bad debt you were posting about a few days ago? if yes than it's 2 for 2, if no then 1 for 2 is better than 0 for 2.

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Um no..

We havent paid.

We have 'received' the invoice he sent.

Ill allow you the privellage of being able to bump this thread for around 5-7 days while the invoice gets processed by accts

Regards,

Lee

www.paypal.com -> click it and pay, fag !!!

BlueDesignStudios · 10-12-2004, 07:47 PM

I was hoping it would not get to this stage.. but to cut a long story short, we did this project in Feb 03 for Lee. As you can see now, we've did a lot of versions & changes for him (there are more). By March / April Lee said he's got a final change.. which I'm not sure what it is or even if there is a final change.

To cut a long story short, I've been emailing Lee and ICQing him at least monthly since then to get this 'final change' .

What pissed me off is not the fact there may be changes required, but the fact he has not replied to my emails, ICQ, or msg board threads for about 6 months now.

Lee, if you run a shady business this is what happens.

Get your fucking shit together man, dont' fuck people around. Period.

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
www.paypal.com -> click it and pay, fag !!!

What part of 'accounting department' and 'CFO' do you not comprehend?

Please tell me and i will try to explain it to you in words of less than one syllable.

Regards,

Lee

XPays · 10-12-2004, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
What part of 'accounting department' and 'CFO' do you not comprehend?

Please tell me and i will try to explain it to you in words of less than one syllable.

Regards,

Lee

if one of my employees said this they would be fired immediately

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
What part of 'accounting department' and 'CFO' do you not comprehend?

Please tell me and i will try to explain it to you in words of less than one syllable.

Regards,

Lee

shut the fuck up fag, don't give the noobs the impression you are running a 120 staff company when it's only you sitting in a corner fucking your gay dog. now pay !!!

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
if one of my employees said this they would be fired immediately

... how many fags are currently working for you, evan ??

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I was hoping it would not get to this stage.. but to cut a long story short, we did this project in Feb 03 for Lee. As you can see now, we've did a lot of versions & changes for him (there are more). By March / April Lee said he's got a final change.. which I'm not sure what it is or even if there is a final change.

To cut a long story short, I've been emailing Lee and ICQing him at least monthly since then to get this 'final change' .

What pissed me off is not the fact there may be changes required, but the fact he has not replied to my emails, ICQ, or msg board threads for about 6 months now.

Lee, if you run a shady business this is what happens.

Get your fucking shit together man, dont' fuck people around. Period.

Uchase is what in relation to Blue Design Studios?

How did he get to see a copy of a, by your own admission, un-completed site design?

Regards,

Lee

eroswebmaster · 10-12-2004, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
if one of my employees said this they would be fired immediately

While I would have to agree with you, this is the adult internet I've seen the accounting department, CFO's and CEO's say much worse. It's a damn shame really.

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
if one of my employees said this they would be fired immediately

Agreed.

Thankfully we only have 2 employees who are not 'board' orientated so we dont have that problem

Regards,

Lee

sarettah · 10-12-2004, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... how many fags are currently working for you, evan ??

If you have a problem with gays, you are in the wrong business. Gay is an extremely profitable niche and there are lots of gay folk in the biz.

XPays · 10-12-2004, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... how many fags are currently working for you, evan ??

it's none of my business what they do on their personal time

XPays · 10-12-2004, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Uchase is what in relation to Blue Design Studios?

How did he get to see a copy of a, by your own admission, un-completed site design?

Regards,

Lee

did you suffer any damages from the site being seen?

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Uchase is what in relation to Blue Design Studios?

How did he get to see a copy of a, by your own admission, un-completed site design?

Regards,

Lee

... mate, I have been andrew's fuck buddy for years, when we exchange boddy fluids we whispers scammer's names in each others ears.

has your CFO/CTO/CEO got web access ... gently point him to www.paypal.com so he can cover your personal fuckup.

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 07:59 PM

Still awaiting an answer to how / why uchase got to see the uncompleted design Andrew.

Want to shed some light on the matter for us all?

Regards,

Lee

XPays · 10-12-2004, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Agreed.

Thankfully we only have 2 employees who are not 'board' orientated so we dont have that problem

Regards,

Lee

so then they should see the value of blue design thanking you for the wire or fedex'd check and uchase's apology for the personal slams as quickly as possible

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
did you suffer any damages from the site being seen?

You mean apart from undoing all of the marketing launch for the redesign in Vegas that we had planned?

Regards,

Lee

SL|M! · 10-12-2004, 08:00 PM

Yup! this isnt the first time that Lee hasnt payed. I'm still waiting for my $$

sextoyking · 10-12-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
todd posted Days ago stalking a client for back-owed money krl. so even he won't agree with your settle privately perfect world scenario.

bluedesign got an email from me to call me about http://HotelHeiress.com and my phone rang 2 seconds after i pressed send. every change, fix, misspelling, distorted graphic and nitpickey request was handled professionally and accurately.

i am glad i paid up front too!! bluedesign makes a living creating designs and would not imho initiate a collections on what could be a recurring customer unless they were left with little other recourse.

also- it looks like the invoice will be paid- so the tactic worked.

todd- did you ever collect the bad debt you were posting about a few days ago? if yes than it's 2 for 2, if no then 1 for 2 is better than 0 for 2.

----------------

Evan,

Thanks for your concearn

Actually you know I never bring shit / drama to the boards or anywhere else, this isn't 1996-97 you know, LOL

As I posted yesterday, this person was warned several time via email, phone, etc. He kept saying I will pay tonight, etc. I don't play bull shit games when it comes to paying bills. You know us, when we get a bill from any company online, offline, etc it's paid then and there.

So as I said, We have not been paid by '2' companies in all these years.

Guy from last night, and 2 yrs ago some Jonathon guy who was working with Larry Flynts son on a site....

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You mean apart from undoing all of the marketing launch for the redesign in Vegas that we had planned?

... $500.000 budget, but no $550 left to pay for the design ... get fucked, fag !!

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
----------------

Evan,

Thanks for your concearn

Actually you know I never bring shit / drama to the boards or anywhere else, this isn't 1996-97 you know, LOL

As I posted yesterday, this person was warned several time via email, phone, etc. He kept saying I will pay tonight, etc. I don't play bull shit games when it comes to paying bills. You know us, when we get a bill from any company online, offline, etc it's paid then and there.

So as I said, We have not been paid by '2' companies in all these years.

Guy from last night, and 2 yrs ago some Jonathon guy who was working with Larry Flynts son on a site....

Well shit Todd... i havent gotten any email from you dude

Regards,

Lee

uchase/webpry · 10-12-2004, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SL|M!
Yup! this isnt the first time that Lee hasnt payed. I'm still waiting for my $$

... time to collect ... post details in this thread and we get things going !!!

SL|M! · 10-12-2004, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... time to collect ... post details in this thread and we get things going !!!

Nothing major. Did a few translations for him. He payed half, still waiting on the other half. Its been like 2 years though. Maybe $300

sextoyking · 10-12-2004, 08:07 PM

Yeh Uchase def. has some issues in the homophobic dept. Dunno mabey he is in the closet himself.

BlueDesignStudios · 10-12-2004, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
You mean apart from undoing all of the marketing launch for the redesign in Vegas that we had planned?

Regards,

Lee

Why didn't you send me an email to let me know?

I've sent you at least 20 emails in the past 3 months, and a lot more ICQ msgs. Shit I've even posted threads on this msg board asking you to contact me.

Were you too busy to respond?

BlueDesignStudios · 10-12-2004, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sextoyking
----------------

As I posted yesterday, this person was warned several time via email, phone, etc. He kept saying I will pay tonight, etc. I don't play bull shit games when it comes to paying bills. You know us, when we get a bill from any company online, offline, etc it's paid then and there.

Wow, that sounds like what I've been through with Lee.

I gave Lee 9 months to get his shit together.

European Lee · 10-12-2004, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Why didn't you send me an email to let me know?

I've sent you at least 20 emails in the past 3 months, and a lot more ICQ msgs. Shit I've even posted threads on this msg board asking you to contact me.

Were you too busy to respond?

But how did uchase get to see the unfinished design?

THAT is my question, not WHY you showed it to him

Regards,

Lee

10-12-2004, 07:04 PM	#51
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	GFY paging Andrew.. come in Andrew. Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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Sharky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 4,938	Todd, It's our policy, as is yours, not to show off clients work until it is launched(without the clients permission). I know Lee and Gary are good people, they've always been good to me. I'm just wondering what the circumstances were that led up to this? I've always known Andrew and company to be good people with good biz sense. It seems out of the ordinary for them. __________________ Sharky

10-12-2004, 07:11 PM	#58
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Oh Yeah before i forget.. Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

10-12-2004, 07:28 PM	#67
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Lee, don't sweat this little fool, oh I mean troll. You can see how he chases ppl around on the boards talking shit and posting worthless crap all the time. I guess he figures that is good for "marketing" Another boy is born every day I suppose. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

10-12-2004, 07:32 PM	#69
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BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	I was hoping it would not get to this stage.. but to cut a long story short, we did this project in Feb 03 for Lee. As you can see now, we've did a lot of versions & changes for him (there are more). By March / April Lee said he's got a final change.. which I'm not sure what it is or even if there is a final change. To cut a long story short, I've been emailing Lee and ICQing him at least monthly since then to get this 'final change' . What pissed me off is not the fact there may be changes required, but the fact he has not replied to my emails, ICQ, or msg board threads for about 6 months now. Lee, if you run a shady business this is what happens. Get your fucking shit together man, dont' fuck people around. Period. __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]

10-12-2004, 07:59 PM	#88
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Still awaiting an answer to how / why uchase got to see the uncompleted design Andrew. Want to shed some light on the matter for us all? Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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SL\|M! Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The BP4L Bunker Posts: 1,480	Yup! this isnt the first time that Lee hasnt payed. I'm still waiting for my $$

10-12-2004, 08:07 PM	#97
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Yeh Uchase def. has some issues in the homophobic dept. Dunno mabey he is in the closet himself. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money