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Old 10-11-2004, 06:34 PM   #1
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Why do people think 1:300 is a GOOD conversion ratio?

I guess bandwidth and time are cheaper than people commonly think
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:35 PM   #2
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I guess bandwidth and time are cheaper than people commonly think
Who thinks this?
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:37 PM   #3
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Mostly high volume low quality traffic pushers
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:38 PM   #4
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So if 1 in 300 is not a good ratio what is???
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:39 PM   #5
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Because it feels a heck of a lot better than 1 in 3000.

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Old 10-11-2004, 06:42 PM   #6
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Because it feels a heck of a lot better than 1 in 3000.

True, but wouldn't the low income be incentive enough to look for better conversions......or at the most basic, fine tune one's existing marketing in order to convert his traffic better?
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:42 PM   #7
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All traffic is Good.

1:30 with SE traffic

1:300 with TGP traffic

TGP traffic 10x easier to get. So no real difference
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:43 PM   #8
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The more traffic numbers you are playing with, statistically you will require more hits to maintain the same ratiors.. 1:300 when you are pushing large volumes of traffic actually IS good.. anything over 1:150 with large traffic, and you have a phenom.
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:50 PM   #9
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For tgp traffic I'd say it's acceptable ... but we are wasting so much traffic anyways
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:52 PM   #10
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:54 PM   #11
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I guess bandwidth and time are cheaper than people commonly think
i like to see under 1:500 first page uniques, but a lot of programs don't report 1st page so their ratios are worthless.
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:55 PM   #12
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Fri Oct 01 1,530 1:38 40
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I got no time for shithole tgp traffic
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:56 PM   #13
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i like to see under 1:500 first page uniques, but a lot of programs don't report 1st page so their ratios are worthless.
Based on your server log and compared with actual signups.
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:57 PM   #14
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Fri Oct 01 1,530 1:38 40
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I got no time for shithole tgp traffic
dating/community/personal info traffic rulez, eh
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Old 10-11-2004, 06:58 PM   #15
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dating/community/personal info traffic rulez, eh
google and yahoo rule
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Old 10-11-2004, 07:00 PM   #16
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On average I convert at 1:600, and Im over the moon.

Hosting is under $100/month
I spend no more than $200/month on content

I send 2500-5000 hits clicks to sponsors/day, doing about 15hours of solid work/week

now... tell me what isnt GOOD about that ?
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Old 10-11-2004, 07:03 PM   #17
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google and yahoo rule
yeah, YAHOO mail, chat, profiles, biz boards, etc rules. Google using that russian script rules too (but not as reliably)
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Old 10-11-2004, 07:04 PM   #18
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yeah, YAHOO mail, chat, profiles, biz boards, etc rules. Google using that russian script rules too (but not as reliably)
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Old 10-11-2004, 07:32 PM   #19
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Fri Oct 01 1,530 1:38 40
Sat Oct 02 1,142 1:39 29
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Tue Oct 05 1,077 1:20 53
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I got no time for shithole tgp traffic
Yeah... My second page uniques convertion is always better than that.... Who are you trying to impress here?? Show us first page raw hits and then we'll talk...

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Old 10-11-2004, 07:37 PM   #20
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Based on your server log and compared with actual signups.
server logs don't track clicks to sponsors. i typically go by sales per unique impressions. some sponsors have fairly accurate click counts.
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Old 10-11-2004, 07:39 PM   #21
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Yeah... My second page uniques convertion is always better than that.... Who are you trying to impress here?? Show us first page raw hits and then we'll talk...

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sent to my own site shitface, not sponsor Its a google yahoo mix
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Old 10-12-2004, 02:10 AM   #22
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1:300 is very good
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Old 10-12-2004, 02:16 AM   #23
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who cares about ratio? 1:300 can suck or be amazing...
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sent to my own site shitface, not sponsor Its a google yahoo mix
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Old 10-12-2004, 02:23 AM   #25
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There is a lot of BULLSHIT in this thread.
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Old 10-12-2004, 02:24 AM   #26
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well 300 as base ratio is better than 30000
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Old 10-12-2004, 04:00 AM   #27
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Translation: Is it quitting time at Taco Bell yet?
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Old 10-12-2004, 04:02 AM   #28
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Why do people think ratio means anything when it don't?
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Old 10-12-2004, 04:04 AM   #29
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I think 1:300 is a good ratio for TGP traffic

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its good for tgp. depends on way too many different things though. if you have more/better links on a tgp gallery you can get twice as many clicks.
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Old 10-12-2004, 04:09 AM   #31
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its good for tgp. depends on way too many different things though. if you have more/better links on a tgp gallery you can get twice as many clicks.
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I think 1:300 is a good ratio for TGP traffic

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Everyone can do 1:300 from even the worst TGP traffic .. just make your ad say "BUY EXPENSIVE PORN HERE, $50 FOR A FULL MONTH, ONLY RICH PEOPLE CLICK HERE"

Ratio means shit!
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Old 10-12-2004, 04:19 AM   #33
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there's nothing wrong with 1:300 ratio's

it all depends on volume....I rather sent 100k hits a day with 1:300 than 10k hits a day with 1:50

it's the amount of money you'll make in the end.
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Old 10-12-2004, 05:06 AM   #34
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yeah, you cant compare ratio, depends on your CTR if its 1% or 15%, depends if the sponsor count 1st or 2nd page uniques. You even cant compare sales to different sponsors, because mostly they have different prices, some have cheap trial, some dont. $$$ is what matters in the end, but if you know your stats, ratio can be important. If you know you do 1:500 on 1st page uniques with a 5% CTR and then have a worse ratio, you know smt is wrong.
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I dont know how to classify my sites, but out of the sponsors that i get sales for, my ratios are usually between 1:60 - 1:100
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:12 AM   #36
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If you can get that for TGP traffic, then it's GOOD. But I don't really care about ratios it's all about how much you make at the end of the period.
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what if:

sponsor A has a conversion ratio of 1:100 with a payout of $20
sponsor B has a conversion ratio of 1:300 with a payout of $60

same to me.


And...
It's easy to get a 1:10 conversion ratio with Google and Yahoo. The problem is, how much traffic are you getting?

If you want more traffic from Google and/or Yahoo, either add less targetted keywords or increase your CPC. Meaning, either your conversion ratio or your costs go up.

Conversion ratios are different for everyone.

The right question shoud be: How much money did you make in the end?
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i like to see under 1:500 first page uniques, but a lot of programs don't report 1st page so their ratios are worthless.
We do, acutally all the NATS affiliates count clicks and we still see TGP traffic under 1:100. So, I can see why he would move to another affiliate if he was only doing 1:300. But it's too hard to judge without knowing traffic sources, sites promoted, etc.
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I guess bandwidth and time are cheaper than people commonly think
heh, 1:300 is a good ratio if you are pushing tgp traffic, its a VERY good ratio IMO
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Ratios don't mean anything. When I buy e.g. 10,000 hits a day for let's say 5 cent per click and send this traffic directly to a sponsor that pays $40 per signup I make enough profit with a ratio of 1:300, i.e. $25 per signup and about $800 a day.

Of course I could try to get better ratios but some traffic just doesn't convert better. I rather spend that time to get another traffic deal with above profit
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