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08-14-2001, 06:07 PM
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THREE TIMES MORE PROFITABLE THEN CREDIT CARDS
I know I'm being a tease but if I gave you the answer right away that wouldn't be any fun
 Anybody want to take a guess? I promise I'll post the numbers and the answer ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ Nobody is better than me!! |
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08-14-2001, 06:08 PM
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2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
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ATM?
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08-14-2001, 06:09 PM
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Yes as of last week
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08-14-2001, 06:10 PM
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2011 GFY Hall of Fame!
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Who are you processing it thru?
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08-14-2001, 06:10 PM
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My nuts itch..
Anyone wanna guess why? |
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08-14-2001, 06:13 PM
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Will code for food...
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08-14-2001, 06:30 PM
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Here is where we get the good part..
ACH, 900, AND DIALERS ARE ALL ADDITIONAL BUSINESS!! They aren?t taking away from credit cards. Are you ready to see the stats? ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ Nobody is better than me!! |
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08-14-2001, 06:40 PM
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Sorry Wizzo I thought ATM = At The Moment not "Automated Teller Machine"
Shh don't tell anybody about my blonde roots ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ Nobody is better than me!! |
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08-14-2001, 07:00 PM
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Okay here are the stats
I'm going to bed- not sure how the table is going to work out but here goes:First off let?s look at some facts: Credit Cards ACH/Checks Decline rates 33% 12% Revoke Rates vs. Trial to 1st rebill * 50% 20-30% Drop after 1st rebill 25-27% 15% Retention (X = average retention) X 2X Processing fees 10-15% 15% * There are no trials on checks So let?s plug some numbers in there apples to apples you know and we?ll go with worst case for ACH/Checks and best case for credit cards. So off the top you will get 21% more sign ups through on checks. But we?ll start with 100 sign ups of each. Credit Cards ACH/Online Check % Sign ups Dollar Value % Sign ups Dollar Value Revoke Rates vs. Trial to 1st rebill * 50% 50 30% 70 Drop after 1st rebill 25% 37.5 15% 59.5 Retention (# after 1st rebill drop * x (average months retention)) 1.75 months 37.5 $1965.46 3.5 months 59.5 $6237.08 Processing Fees 10% $196.54 15% $935.56 Totals $1768.92 $5301.52 ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ Nobody is better than me!! |
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08-14-2001, 08:26 PM
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The problem with this analysis is comparing TRIAL credit cards to NONTRIAL checks.
More people will signup with a trial that without a trial, that's why we do it. We have been doing check trials and are analyzing the #s. |
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08-15-2001, 05:57 AM
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Too lazy to set a custom title
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100 people signup for a site, maybe 1 will be with a check.
That's enough math for me |
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08-15-2001, 07:48 AM
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Note the part where I compared revokes to trial drop offs. AND where I said checks, 900, dialers are all above and beyond credit cards
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08-15-2001, 07:50 AM
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Looking California
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Correct me if I'm wrong ....but is this anything like http://www.ATMBilling.com
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08-15-2001, 07:58 AM
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No but that is really cool
I was talking about online checks, ATM is pretty cool ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ Nobody is better than me!! |
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08-15-2001, 09:28 AM
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GFY Chaperone
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ATM Billing is a dream, not reality. That site has been in 'demo' mode forever.
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08-15-2001, 09:29 AM
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Looking California
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I thought I saw JoeE posting about it being ready soon......Who Knows?????
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08-15-2001, 09:34 AM
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I've been hearing soon for years!
Soon is relative. Soon as in next week? Soon as in next year? Soon asn in next lifetime? What is your defination of soon? I did notice that there wasn't any contact information ------------------ Melissa Davies [email protected] www.BillinGuru.com 954 856-3071 mobile 954 227-0926 office 954 827-0335 fax 15566387 ICQ Nobody is better than me!! |
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08-15-2001, 10:14 AM
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bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
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Soon as in yes it will actually be ready. It's not our product, but to give JB credit, he's stuck with this deal and it's a monster to try and work out --
Checks can add about 10% to your bottom line, give or take a couple points either way, dialers are good for recovering income you wouldn't get any other way (ie no cc, no check) but credit cards still remain the mainstay of the industry and will until something with the amount of distribution that Visa has comes along to push them out of the way. |
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08-15-2001, 01:16 PM
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Hall Of Fame
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My nuts still itch?
Anyone?? Anyone?? |
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08-15-2001, 01:48 PM
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Too lazy to set a custom title
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checks have been pretty good to me with lensmans cashtour thing. since 7/30 I've had 103 signups. 8 of them have been checks for a full month signup ( one revoke so I guess that # is actually 7 checks) so about 1:15 signups with checks so far, not too bad.
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