exactly Cncr,
this is a proof we can get much more to sponser with very low traffic to gallery , which means lower bandwidth bills and bigger $$$ in the pocket http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

I just returned from holidays and must say that this TGP2 idea looks great.

I'm planning to build a public webmaster page, containing links to TGP2 submission pages. This will make it easier for gallery owners to submit and TGP2 owners to get gallery submissions.

Just send me a mail at [email protected]

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Carl,

you obviously have some catching up to do.. http://www.action-porn.com/cgi-bin/ubb2/Ultimate.cgi

We're happy to see you there if you have any questions. Would be a better place to discuss tgp2.

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Whoops - sorry 'bout that... I visited the action-porn BB but got server connection errors after reading two topics or so; maybe the box was restarting ?
Anyway, it's accessible again now and I think I'll spend some hours going through it http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif
Thanks !

Great Idea! Everyone would make a lot more money this way. You might want to consider allowing the thumbnail to be linked to an html page where the full size version of the image is as well as a banner on the top and perhaps some text leading to the sponsor under it.

I'll convert one of my TGPs to TGP2 (a little more than 10k/day)

Details here .. http://www.morepornpics.com/webmasters/tgp2.html

more later?

Most excellent thread.

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So, any feedback from the "big guys"?
I heard the Hun like the idea ;-) but can't find the exact thread (search doesn't work).

Thehun likes the idea?

that would be cool.

i dont think he likes it :/

lol, search didnt work back then in 2001 :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

In a few days, it will be 4 years :winkwink:

I've seen some old threads bumped in my time but this is ridiculous!

Damn, when I read the first post I actually liked the idea.

Happy Birthday Tgp2 :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

This idea isn`t really new.
We use it since a long time. Some of our TGP`s haven`t more than 5 pics per gallery and not resizable. Each pic is linked direct to the paysite. In this case we can send much more sales to other sponsors then normal galleries. TGP`s are not the best way to generate sales. Link lists are the best in my mind. But this is a good way btw.

LOL so old

the idea was/is great.
I wonder where the guys who came up with it are today

....ooops.....didn't know it's that old
5 years damn

wow, this shit is old like a Bible :)
Btw. the idea is great....while I was reading the first page it came to my mind that this stuff would be cool if we start doing it...

Most of them are out of business. Only a few left. Check the nicks, see if any of them is still around. :winkwink:

there has to be a few things we can do that are similar to the concept of these ideas but differ in the method to accomplish them which will give us the same result: using each other to make this industry make it's webmasters a lot more money.
or is every GFY'er to much of an eggo maniac to think more than 6 months ahead?

How this could work???
You imagine all the TGPs owners signing some type of agreement? It's impossible for such a huge industry.

In theory the amount of free content will reach the quantity and quality as at paysites.

Damn 5 years old I started reading it thinking wow this is a bloody good idea. Then thinking this is tgp2 which never really took off which means people got greedy with giving away free porn and so the place where the most porn was always getting more hits, take thehun for instance. This is a good stuck in time and we can't do shit all about it.

Hi guys
I 'm new here but I AM IN. I'll post those galleries, profitable or not. If we do not loose something (I mean all of us) we can't change anything. Somehow we must convince paysite owners to stop feeding for free the surfers. This type galleries are teasing not feeding. I am 100% sure that are the solution for that big problem.

Whoa...timewarp!

funny that an idea this "old" still has people saying 'YO LETS DO IT!"

...if we could sonehow replace the word "traffic" with "conversions" in peoples minds we'd be on our way :Oh crap

I was reading, clicking links and wondering why the links weren't working...

I thought my computer was infeced with a virus ! :1orglaugh

The idea is a good one. It's the industry we're in that makes the difference. It's a 'survival of the fittest' game and people will not risk traffic/paid advertisers even if it's for the greater good (the less the surfer sees, the more likely he will buy including on your own galleries & the value of your 'paid listings/paid banners' goes higher). The other factor, in everyone's defence, is 'if' everyone would switch, there would always be fresh sites springing up with hardcore to the bone trying to get the dissatisfied 'surfer'.

The industry could definitely start changing their standards by moving towards more softcore thumbs - say 15 - going to larger pictures and the hardcore ones remaining as unclickable - this way, you'd be preparing the surfers for changes.

*BTW, that's working towards a perfect world :) like dreaming in technicolor*

exactly. but....(playing devils advocate here) if enough key players/companies switched and really stuck to their guns, wouldn't a fresh site offering "the milk without buying the cow" burn out eventually?

What the TGP owners want isn't as important of a factor as what the affiliate programs deliver for them to make use of :winkwink:

Most affiliate programs offer FHG's (which didn't used to be as prevalent as they are now). FHG's are made to look like the same style of gallery that gallery submitters have been making, i.e. 15-16 pics, 2-3 links etc, nothing really optimized for sales.

The idea of a gallery way back when wasn't something that submitters would make money from, it was supposed to be a page of free stuff with a minimum of advertising that would encourage bookmarkers, who would hopefully buy something from a banner ad on the TGP, not from the galleries. This is why they have such stupid rules with the large number of pics, the low number of links, very small amounts of advertising, must have tiny headers, can't have pics on an html page, don't use links that say 'more' if it leads to 'more' content on a tour etc etc...

Some webmasters (myself included) have made very good use of the galleries even under these restrictions and gotten them to convert decently in this crippled state, however the fact of the matter is that it's a poor method of advertising and it is intended to be a poor method of advertising. The TGP owners weren't listing these galleries just to be nice and share traffic all these years...

If the paysites would wise up and quit trying to copy this existing standard of gallery for their FHG's, then TGP's would list the other format (whether that is TGP2 or something else) because that is what they would have available to use.

So it's not really the TGP owners that would need to agree to something like this, it's the individual affiliate programs that would need to start making these types of galleries for this to work very well; most sites don't list submitted galleries anymore and don't make their own galleries either, they just use what is available.

sponsors should offer both traditional galleries and more agressive galleries with less pics, less movies and less hardcore overall + pics/movies would be on html pages

why don't they do it? for some reason they dont care :disgust

Yes, in a perfect world, it would be - but as history has shown us, the TGP2 movement didn't really 'move'. In fact, it's on or around that time that FHG started becoming a popular tool *I could be wrong, but I believe it was on or around that same time*. So AmateurFlix has a point that a place to start would be sponsors. Again though, we're back to square1 and have to 'all' agree on things changing. TGPs will have to agree with the concept and use them or it will not serve the sponsor to put time/money/maintenance on a tool that's not being used.

But, I agree, there's alot of free porn out there and cutting will help conversions again. As a program though - you can't expect them to cut the regular FHG for the new style from one day to the next either, until the 'new style' becomes the prominent tool used.

i used to think the industry wasn't able to make any "sweeping changes"...until i saw how fast everyone became 2257 compliant :1orglaugh it was amazing

polish_aristocrat, it's all a circle - the FHG is competing with submitted galleries. The FHG is used by the TGP owner so the FHG is competing against submissions - and it has to 'blend' so....

It's demand then supply - if enough ask, it will eventually be something produced more by more sponsors.

but if it's demand then supply, wouldn't that put the first move into the hands of the TGP owner? oh well, we're screwed :upsidedow

That's legal issues - everyone was put into the pot of going to jail 'unless....' so people had to move and move quick cuz the government was coming in to clean up. If you go to jail, you can't be making money unless you have someone running your show from the outside + you'll be needing quite a bit of money to pay for the lawyers.

This all boils down to a real BrotherHood where enough big traffic people from all areas - TGPs/MGPs/LinkLists/Sponsors/FreeSites/Submitters/HubCreators/Blogs/SEOptimizers/Legal - set standards for the industry on a whole. If the TGP won't accept you unless *insert rule* and the LinkList won't accept you unless *insert rule* and sponsors won't allow *insert rule* and so on......then the industry will have standards, people who don't follow them won't benefit from traffic. Also, it's becomes like 'self ruling' and we won't have to wait for the government/governments to put rules into effect which will affect growth/cause legal issues/taxing to deter buyers/profitability to both affiliates and sponsors alike...and so on