Question for Taboo.... - GoFuckYourself.com

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 03:47 PM

If you do not mind answering this question. If you have a domain valued at 100,000.00 appraised by Fastdomainssales.com, what sort of price would you look for on this domain sale. Do you sale the domain for a 1/3 say 1/2 of what its worth? I understand many things can play a part in the asking price, but I am curious to a ballpark figure. Thanks you are the DomainGod

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 03:54 PM

Appraisals don't mean shit, find some people who are willing to pay good money and use common sense for the real value.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Appraisals don't mean shit, find some people who are willing to pay good money and use common sense for the real value.

Thanks for the input just several people that contact me ask for appraisal info.

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 04:00 PM

Just post the domain here and I'll tell you what I think it's worth.Most appraisals are far from reality.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:03 PM

www.teenandporn.com was appraised at 7300 by fastdomainsales.com

polish_aristocrat · 10-08-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
www.teenandporn.com was appraised at 7300 by fastdomainsales.com

And I wouldn't pay $7.00 for it.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
And I wouldn't pay $7.00 for it.

How about Creditfilerepair.com

chupachups · 10-08-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
How about Creditfilerepair.com

3bucks...

Dont use those guys, not ANY of them have a single clue.

paxton · 10-08-2004, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
How about Creditfilerepair.com

Long name (three words), results at Overture indicate the exact phrase "credit file repair"(without the .com extension) was searched for just 82 times in August.

It has some value... just not much. You could probably sell it for around $15-$40... IMHO.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:11 PM

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Originally posted by paxton
Long name (three words), results at Overture indicate the exact phrase "credit file repair"(without the .com extension) was searched for just 82 times in August.

It has some value... just not much. You could probably sell it for around $15-$40... IMHO.

thanks for the input

boobmaster · 10-08-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
How about Creditfilerepair.com

Like your previous domain, this one consists of a phrase people rarely use. (Now creditrepair.com would be worth something). Yours isn't, IMHO.

I am no expert, but it strikes me that people aren't going to put out big $$ to buy a domain unless it has some value (e.g., type in traffic, it's developed and has built in traffic). There are plenty of unregistered 'credit report' type domains out there that someone can get for $9.00.

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
How about Creditfilerepair.com

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Searches done in August 2004
Count Search Term
142 credit my credit history credit repair repair my credit new credit file report
119 repair your bad credit file
82 credit file repair

That's a usable domain, maybe a bit long but value up to a few k in my opinion, just put in on afternic or sedo and wait for offers.

http://www.teenandporn.com/

Wouldn't even register it but you could built a teen tgp or whatever out of it.I doubt you'd find a buyer.

Never ever waste your money on appraisals, just use common sense.

For 25$ I'll tell you your domains are worth millions, you'll be happy, I'm happy but you'll never find anybody willing to pay anything near that fantasy price.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
That's a usable domain, maybe a bit long but value up to a few k in my opinion, just put in on afternic or sedo and wait for offers.

http://www.teenandporn.com/

Wouldn't even register it but you could built a teen tgp or whatever out of it.I doubt you'd find a buyer.

Never ever waste your money on appraisals, just use common sense.

For 25$ I'll tell you your domains are worth millions, you'll be happy, I'm happy but you'll never find anybody willing to pay anything near that fantasy price.

Very true and I do appreciate the input this is a new experience for me. So far I have made some nice deals that have made me nice profits but advice is always good so thanks.

KRL · 10-08-2004, 04:15 PM

If those farce domain appraisal services were even 1/2 right my portfolio would be worth over a billion dollars.

Those things are a total joke.

If you want to know what a domain is worth in the market post it here and the buyers will tell you clearly.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
That's a usable domain, maybe a bit long but value up to a few k in my opinion, just put in on afternic or sedo and wait for offers.

http://www.teenandporn.com/

Wouldn't even register it but you could built a teen tgp or whatever out of it.I doubt you'd find a buyer.

Never ever waste your money on appraisals, just use common sense.

For 25$ I'll tell you your domains are worth millions, you'll be happy, I'm happy but you'll never find anybody willing to pay anything near that fantasy price.

Thanks for the input the reason I asked is because I have a very interested buyer for this domain. He has been bugging the shit out of me for getting an appraisal so he can make a offer based on the appraisal. Just trying to get a good idea of what to accept for this domain.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
If those farce domain appraisal services were even 1/2 right my portfolio would be worth over a billion dollars.

Those things are a total joke.

If you want to know what a domain is worth in the market post it here and the buyers will tell you clearly.

Yeah I am starting to agree, I have one domain I registered without thinking of trademark issues which is www.spaceshiponevideo.com that was appraised at 43k

I have not pushed the domain worrying about if this could become a issue or not. As a matter of fact I need to take it off afternic.

Dirty F · 10-08-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
Thanks for the input the reason I asked is because I have a very interested buyer for this domain. He has been bugging the shit out of me for getting an appraisal so he can make a offer based on the appraisal. Just trying to get a good idea of what to accept for this domain.

Dude, youre getting scammed haha. These guys tell you they want an appraisel and recommend you some companies. They get a share for every appraisel they refer.

Welcome to the intraweb.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Dude, youre getting scammed haha. These guys tell you they want an appraisel and recommend you some companies. They get a share for every appraisel they refer.

Welcome to the intraweb.

Hrmm without a referal link? lol thats fucked up! I guess I will see and maybe have learned a lesson.

paxton · 10-08-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Dude, youre getting scammed haha. These guys tell you they want an appraisel and recommend you some companies. They get a share for every appraisel they refer.

Welcome to the intraweb.

Yes, beware of those types of scams. If anyone says they are interested in a domain and need you to furnish them with an appraisal - DON'T. If they want an appraisal they can buy one themselves. Direct them to some appraisal site (sedo, afternic, etc) if they want to purchase one, but that's their decision.

Odds are that after you reply saying you will not purchase the appraisal - you'll never hear from them again.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:35 PM

Hey guys thanks for the info, even if this domain does not sale hey atleast ive learned a valuable lesson.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:37 PM

Atleast I can send a Hey Fuck You Cocksucker email out, I will just think of all the bad shit thats happened in my life and let him have it! Good stress relief.

Theo · 10-08-2004, 04:39 PM

no script can appraise a domain
and most services will quote you a much higher price, but try to sell them the domain and won't give you 1/10 of the initial value

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:41 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
no script can appraise a domain
and most services will quote you a much higher price, but try to sell them the domain and won't give you 1/10 of the initial value

What exactly shoud you look for in a domain to determine its value? Traffic ofcourse linkbacks etc....

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by paxton
Yes, beware of those types of scams. If anyone says they are interested in a domain and need you to furnish them with an appraisal - DON'T. If they want an appraisal they can buy one themselves. Direct them to some appraisal site (sedo, afternic, etc) if they want to purchase one, but that's their decision.

Odds are that after you reply saying you will not purchase the appraisal - you'll never hear from them again.

Thanks for the headsup

Theo · 10-08-2004, 04:50 PM

many factors like:

- a .com has great value than the rest
- traffic/typeins as you said and if that's the case from which countries? Americandate.com > chinesedate.com
- short domain > a larger one
- easy to remember
- no trademark issues
- major keywords/phrases have higher value than nonsense ones cause it can be used on SEO.
- Competition of the industry that the domain is involved is important too.
- Also how well these industries capitalize on the traffic. RX, Gambling, loans etc domains that worth to have a look at them have by default higher values because advertising on these industries is much harder. Even a typein every few days pays of the registration fee many times.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
many factors like:

- a .com has great value than the rest
- traffic/typeins as you said and if that's the case from which countries? Americandate.com > chinesedate.com
- short domain > a larger one
- easy to remember
- no trademark issues
- major keywords/phrases have higher value than nonsense ones cause it can be used on SEO.
- Competition of the industry that the domain is involved is important too.
- Also how well these industries capitalize on the traffic. RX, Gambling, loans etc domains that worth to have a look at them have by default higher values because advertising on these industries is much harder. Even a typein every few days pays of the registration fee many times.

Very nice I do appreciate the time you took to write that info thanks.

Theo · 10-08-2004, 04:55 PM

Taboo will tell you more factors, much more experienced on this. I'm trying to buy at least a domain per week of decent value. Decent value for me means to be able to generate income from it within a 2 months period.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Taboo will tell you more factors, much more experienced on this. I'm trying to buy at least a domain per week of decent value. Decent value for me means to be able to generate income from it within a 2 months period.

Definately do you have icq?

boobmaster · 10-08-2004, 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
That's a usable domain, maybe a bit long but value up to a few k in my opinion, just put in on afternic or sedo and wait for offers.

Are you basing your estimate of it's value based solely on the Overture search results? I have several domains that get many more searches that 82 and would sell them for a lot less than 2k.

Theo · 10-08-2004, 05:02 PM

[email protected]

Here's an advice on everyone interested on spending money on domains. Spend your money primarily on industries you are familiar. It's easier to justify the cost and generate profit, than trying to learn how another industry operates and waiting for someone else to buy it at higher price from you.

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Are you basing your estimate of it's value based solely on the Overture search results? I have several domains that get many more searches that 82 and would sell them for a lot less than 2k.

No, but in the credit sector is much money and companies that offer credit file repairs might be willing to pay a few k for it.

82 is low it just means that there are already searches.Also something that you could sell to offline companies.

boobmaster · 10-08-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
No, but in the credit sector is much money and companies that offer credit file repairs might be willing to pay a few k for it.

The key word here is MIGHT. I just did a search for 'credit' domains and found a lot of good ones still unregistered. Some of these get a lot more searches than the one posted here.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 05:10 PM

keep this alive I am learning alot of useful information and I am sure others are learning also.

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
The key word here is MIGHT. I just did a search for 'credit' domains and found a lot of good ones still unregistered. Some of these get a lot more searches than the one posted here.

Sure, but it is sell able for a few k because it's a .com without hyphens, also sell able to offline credit businesses.

It's not really about searches with this one.

Offline companies can use it in TV ads, paper ads etc.

If done right you can sell it for a few k.

boobmaster · 10-08-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Sure, but it is sell able for a few k because it's a .com without hyphens, also sell able to offline credit businesses.

It's not really about searches with this one.

Offline companies can use it in TV ads, paper ads etc.

If done right you can sell it for a few k.

If he can get a good price for it, more power to him. It's just not a commonly used phrase. If he gets more than 500 for it, I am putting 50% my domains up for sale immediately.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 05:33 PM

I will let www.creditfilerepair.com go for 250 if anyone is interested if not I will just develope a site for the domain and go from there.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 05:39 PM

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 05:41 PM

www.teenandporn.com for 500

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 05:50 PM

Anyways thanks for the input guys you all have gave me a ton of knowledge.

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
If he can get a good price for it, more power to him. It's just not a commonly used phrase. If he gets more than 500 for it, I am putting 50% my domains up for sale immediately.

Afternic.com

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newmoviedownload.com 150 2d 19h 17m

150$ latest offer for a crap domain like that and creditfilerepair.com is decent.

Get a professional looking mail header + paper and mail offline businesses in that area about the great opportunity etc. and you can get real good money.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 05:53 PM

Thanks I will do just that youve been a huge help.

RainMailer · 10-08-2004, 06:01 PM

www.thetrafficguy.com for sale icq me offers

boobmaster · 10-08-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Afternic.com

150$ latest offer for a crap domain like that and creditfilerepair.com is decent.

Get a professional looking mail header + paper and mail offline businesses in that area about the great opportunity etc. and you can get real good money.

I don't agree at all. I think newmoviedownload.com is a hell of a lot better than creditfilereport.com. For one thing, it's a more often used phrase than 'credit file report'. The phrase 'new movie download' had 1335 searches for August according to Overture, compared to only 50 for 'credit file report'.

johndoebob · 10-08-2004, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I don't agree at all. I think newmoviedownload.com is a hell of a lot better than creditfilereport.com. For one thing, it's a more often used phrase than 'credit file report'. The phrase 'new movie download' had 1335 searches for August according to Overture, compared to only 50 for 'credit file report'.

Try to sell newmoviedownload.com to an offilne business

Anyway it's useless to argue about anything here because the potential value always stays potential until it's put into some real money.

I'm just saying it isn't that hard to get decent money for a semi decent domain in the right area, especially if it involves offlines businesses.

slapass · 10-08-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
How about Creditfilerepair.com

$200

icq 166708909

RainMailer · 10-09-2004, 04:45 PM

Taboo · 10-09-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by RainMailer
If you do not mind answering this question. If you have a domain valued at 100,000.00 appraised by Fastdomainssales.com, what sort of price would you look for on this domain sale. Do you sale the domain for a 1/3 say 1/2 of what its worth? I understand many things can play a part in the asking price, but I am curious to a ballpark figure. Thanks you are the DomainGod

domaingod? far from it. anyone can play the domain game with as little as $10.

I didn't see this thread earlier, but I did read it all before replying.

re: appraisals

let the market decide. check out the recent sales charts at afternic, sedo and dnjournal.com's sales archives.

read this ENTIRE thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=341282
18+ pages full of RECENT domain sales from drops, auction, private deals, etc.

hopefully you'll get a better picture of what is selling and for how much. there are always domain sold prices that shock all of us. I've seen gold sell for copper and vice versa.

re: creditfilerepair.com

google results for "Credit file repair" (with quotes)
http://www.google.com/search?num=100...le +repair%22

contact them directly and offer your domain for sale or research all their sites and do what they do. the domain is worth more to them than gfyers, so target your suitors. go to them, don't wait for them to come to you. but keep in mind, there are lucrative payouts inthat industry if you choose to develop. good luck.

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10-08-2004, 03:47 PM	#1
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	Question for Taboo.... If you do not mind answering this question. If you have a domain valued at 100,000.00 appraised by Fastdomainssales.com, what sort of price would you look for on this domain sale. Do you sale the domain for a 1/3 say 1/2 of what its worth? I understand many things can play a part in the asking price, but I am curious to a ballpark figure. Thanks you are the DomainGod __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 03:54 PM	#2
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Appraisals don't mean shit, find some people who are willing to pay good money and use common sense for the real value. __________________

10-08-2004, 04:00 PM	#4
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Just post the domain here and I'll tell you what I think it's worth.Most appraisals are far from reality. __________________

10-08-2004, 04:03 PM	#5
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	www.teenandporn.com was appraised at 7300 by fastdomainsales.com __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 04:15 PM	#14
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	If those farce domain appraisal services were even 1/2 right my portfolio would be worth over a billion dollars. Those things are a total joke. If you want to know what a domain is worth in the market post it here and the buyers will tell you clearly. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

10-08-2004, 04:35 PM	#20
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	Hey guys thanks for the info, even if this domain does not sale hey atleast ive learned a valuable lesson. __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 04:37 PM	#21
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	Atleast I can send a Hey Fuck You Cocksucker email out, I will just think of all the bad shit thats happened in my life and let him have it! Good stress relief. __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 04:39 PM	#22
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	no script can appraise a domain and most services will quote you a much higher price, but try to sell them the domain and won't give you 1/10 of the initial value

10-08-2004, 04:50 PM	#25
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	many factors like: - a .com has great value than the rest - traffic/typeins as you said and if that's the case from which countries? Americandate.com > chinesedate.com - short domain > a larger one - easy to remember - no trademark issues - major keywords/phrases have higher value than nonsense ones cause it can be used on SEO. - Competition of the industry that the domain is involved is important too. - Also how well these industries capitalize on the traffic. RX, Gambling, loans etc domains that worth to have a look at them have by default higher values because advertising on these industries is much harder. Even a typein every few days pays of the registration fee many times.

10-08-2004, 04:55 PM	#27
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Taboo will tell you more factors, much more experienced on this. I'm trying to buy at least a domain per week of decent value. Decent value for me means to be able to generate income from it within a 2 months period.

10-08-2004, 05:02 PM	#30
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	[email protected] Here's an advice on everyone interested on spending money on domains. Spend your money primarily on industries you are familiar. It's easier to justify the cost and generate profit, than trying to learn how another industry operates and waiting for someone else to buy it at higher price from you.

10-08-2004, 05:10 PM	#33
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	keep this alive I am learning alot of useful information and I am sure others are learning also. __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 05:33 PM	#36
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	I will let www.creditfilerepair.com go for 250 if anyone is interested if not I will just develope a site for the domain and go from there. __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 05:39 PM	#37
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	bump __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 05:41 PM	#38
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	www.teenandporn.com for 500 __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 05:50 PM	#39
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	Anyways thanks for the input guys you all have gave me a ton of knowledge. __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 05:53 PM	#41
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	Thanks I will do just that youve been a huge help. __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-08-2004, 06:01 PM	#42
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	www.thetrafficguy.com for sale icq me offers __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com

10-09-2004, 04:45 PM	#46
RainMailer Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland Posts: 826	bump __________________ harbinc at gmail dot com