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BuckLover · 10-06-2004, 10:03 AM

Anyone heard anything recently?

seeric · 10-06-2004, 10:06 AM

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BuckLover · 10-06-2004, 10:09 AM

You know Acacia media! the fuckheads who want to charge, excuse me who are charging companies for use of thier video streaming technology patents!

jacked · 10-06-2004, 10:11 AM

By Tony Smith
Published Wednesday 6th October 2004 14:20 GMT

US wireless internet service providers have been hit with demands for hefty royalty payments from an intellectual property exploitation company claiming it owns gateway page redirection.

Acacia Technologies last week began sending details of a patent it owns which details the process by which a WISP's servers redirect connected computers' browsers to a login page, Wi-Fi Networking News reports.

The patent in question is 6,226,677, and was acquired by Acacia from LodgeNet. Granted in May 2001, the patent application was originally filed in January 1999, long before the Wi-Fi hotspot business emerged.

Curiously, Nomadix, a company that sells network access control software to WISPs, announced earlier this year that it had been granted a similar patent, number 6,636,894. Nomadix' patent describes "systems and methods for redirecting users having transparent computer access to a network using a gateway device having redirection capability". Acacia's simply talks about "controlled communications over a global computer network".

Essentially, they amount to the same thing, and since Nomadix' version goes back only so far as December 1999, Acacia has the potential to cry 'prior art', should the two firms come to blows.

Acacia's patent simply describes page redirection. Nomadix' patent, which cites a number of other patents but not Acacia's, applies redirection to the specific task of garnering and processing login data in order to decide whether or not the user should be granted access to the Internet.

Many WISPs weren't overly concerned with Nomadix' patent. Plenty use software like the code Nomadix offers, and they expected their own software partners to deal with any claims made by Nomadix. Only those who had developed their own redirect code needed to worry about licensing the technology.

Acacia, however, appears to be targeting WISPs directly. According to WFNN's report, the company is demanding $1000 a quarter for up to 3500 redirected connections. Beyond that number, each redirected connection will levy a fee of 5-15c.

However, the company claimed the fees need not put any hotspot owners' business at risk. "We think we set the royalties at a low enough level where it shouldn't have any affect on the market," Rob Berman, Acacia's executive VP of business development and general counsel, told WFNN. "These royalties should not affect anybody's business in a negative way."

WISPs have 30 days to respond, he said. After that, anyone found infringing the patent could be liable for a patent violation suit.

However, just as Acacia's patent pre-dates Nomadix' IP, so some WISPs claim to have been doing redirects even earlier, potentially grounds to challenge the validity of both patents. ®

FightThisPatent · 10-06-2004, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by BuckLover
Anyone heard anything recently?

On Oct 13-14, Judge Ware will hear Acacia's proposal for a class action lawsuit against all websites that have video.

The class is defined by those that are required to carry a 2257 statement.. so that means all the adult biz with video.

Most likely, the judge will deny that motion because it's way to cumbersome to manage a class action, especially since in the Markman order, he alluded that the defendants will probably be found non-infringing of the patent, due to him saying twice in the document, that the defendants should file for summary judgement.

In talking with a couple of patent attorneys, it is rare that a judge does that.

The next court action is first week of Dec where the judge will hear the defendants motion to file for summary judgement.

I believe this will be granted, which means court dates in first quarter 2005 to get to eventual non-infringement verdict.

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pornguy · 10-06-2004, 10:13 AM

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FightThisPatent · 10-06-2004, 10:14 AM

Article about Round Three for Acacia and their patent licensing scheme on wifi hotspots:

http://wifinetnews.com/archives/004184.html

Slashdot thread on the article, and a post by me

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?s...&tid=95&tid=17

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