Are you an organ donor? (story)

[sickkittens]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/05/org....ap/index.html

Think twice before becoming a donor.

[SmokeyTheBear]

well the guy was attempting suicide so i dont think he cares. Infact i think they helped him a little.



But i will tell you the main reason why you DONT become an organ donor.

I had a few friends in med school , and the organ donor bodies are the ones the med students get to test out .

He used to tll me disgusting stories of pranks they played.

If you really want to do something nice. Leave a handwritten signed letter in your wallet , allowing them to harvest your organs within 24 hours , and after that your body is to be cremated , or whatever you wnt.

Let your family know your wishes..

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
well the guy was attempting suicide so i dont think he cares. Infact i think they helped him a little.



But i will tell you the main reason why you DONT become an organ donor.

I had a few friends in med school , and the organ donor bodies are the ones the med students get to test out .

He used to tll me disgusting stories of pranks they played.

If you really want to do something nice. Leave a handwritten signed letter in your wallet , allowing them to harvest your organs within 24 hours , and after that your body is to be cremated , or whatever you wnt.

Let your family know your wishes..

I've also heard stories, who knows if they're true, about doctors not willing to go the extra mile to save a donor because if the patient dies, they can still use their organs.

[pimplink]

Originally posted by sickkittens
I've also heard stories, who knows if they're true, about doctors not willing to go the extra mile to save a donor because if the patient dies, they can still use their organs.

that's nonsense

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by sickkittens
I've also heard stories, who knows if they're true, about doctors not willing to go the extra mile to save a donor because if the patient dies, they can still use their organs.

I cant see any doctor actually feeling this way. But then again. It does mean more money for the doctor. If some crackhead comes in with an overdose, it would seem like an awfully nice find, if you had a rich texan just waiting to slam down 500,000 for a new liver ..

Its like my whole theory on "pest control" . If "pest control" worked , you wouldn't need pest control anymore would you ..

[sacX]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I cant see any doctor actually feeling this way. But then again. It does mean more money for the doctor. If some crackhead comes in with an overdose, it would seem like an awfully nice find, if you had a rich texan just waiting to slam down 500,000 for a new liver ..

Its like my whole theory on "pest control" . If "pest control" worked , you wouldn't need pest control anymore would you ..

I don't know about the US, but the systems I've worked in there's no fucking way a doctor would get money for procuring an organ.

[Libertine]

The main reason for not becoming an organ donor is that almost all people are little more than disgusting parasites who really shouldn't be saved from anything.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by sacX
I don't know about the US, but the systems I've worked in there's no fucking way a doctor would get money for procuring an organ.

no thats not what i meant. He gets money for doing the operation..

Like, example.

A rich guy comes in with loads of money to spend , his liver is failing and he will soon die. Liver transplants cost $ XXX,XXX.

Joe-Crackhead comes in with an overdose, no money no insurance no job.

If the doctor saves him, he will most likely be back again and again making the doctor no cash whatsoever and eventually will ruin his liver to the point its not even usable if he dies.

If the doc lets him die, he not only saves himself and the hospital money because the guy wont come back every week overdosing. He will also make money from the trasplant to the rich guy , and not only that he will be able to RE-BILL the rich texan forever on the new liver.

If the texan ever tries to CHARGEBACK his liver transplant the doctor can make even more money..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by punkworld
The main reason for not becoming an organ donor is that almost all people are little more than disgusting parasites who really shouldn't be saved from anything.

actually theres lots of innocent nice people that need organs too. The problem is they aren't the ones getting them. Its the rich inbred morons who get them.

[wyldblyss]

I'm an organ donor and am willing to take the chance that my body isn't used exactly how I would have wanted it to be. I believe abuse is a rarity and if you can help sustain another human or make their existance better....why the hell not. You aren't exactly going to use the stuff anyways.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by wyldblyss
I'm an organ donor and am willing to take the chance that my body isn't used exactly how I would have wanted it to be. I believe abuse is a rarity and if you can help sustain another human or make their existance better....why the hell not. You aren't exactly going to use the stuff anyways.

Because you can do what i suggested and still have your organs used decently, but you are not having your genetalia mutilated by med students, or used in some sadistic expirement by the government..

[Doc911]

Its against my religion to donate organs. the dead should remain intact. not used as guinee pigs

[SmokeyTheBear]

i actually saw this one recently i was suprised t how much of the bodies they will show on t.v.

It was some crime lab teaching forensic analysis (sp?) and they got organ donor bodies. ( perfectly healthy looking ones ) and set them on fire or let them decompose on this 5 acre wooded are to see what happens to a body. Even more disturbing was the fact they were showing these bodies on t.v. ( very graphic images too , i.e. genitals )


Not exactly what i have in mind when i die..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by Doc911
Its against my religion to donate organs. the dead should remain intact. not used as guinee pigs

They didn't have organ transplants when they made that rule..

How could they have even concieved it.

Those rules weren't written by GOD , they were written by a man interpreting gods words. not verbatum.

sheesh its the 21 century my friend.

[Libertine]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
i actually saw this one recently i was suprised t how much of the bodies they will show on t.v.

It was some crime lab teaching forensic analysis (sp?) and they got organ donor bodies. ( perfectly healthy looking ones ) and set them on fire or let them decompose on this 5 acre wooded are to see what happens to a body. Even more disturbing was the fact they were showing these bodies on t.v. ( very graphic images too , i.e. genitals )


Not exactly what i have in mind when i die..

Experiments like that further human knowledge which makes it more likely that crimes get solved and murderers get punished.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by punkworld
Experiments like that further human knowledge which makes it more likely that crimes get solved and murderers get punished.

Thats argument used to work , but they dont play fair. Why do they have to film it..

Besides there are thousands of things they could do to ACTUALLY solve those problems that have nothing to do with forensics.. Like making sure those murders dont ever take place..

[Libertine]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Thats argument used to work , but they dont play fair. Why do they have to film it..

Besides there are thousands of things they could do to ACTUALLY solve those problems that have nothing to do with forensics.. Like making sure those murders dont ever take place..

Publicity means funding, funding makes sure they can do more experiments. That's the way the academic/research world works these days.

And all governments are trying to do stuff to prevent crimes, really. In fact, this is one of the things that are done against crime - increasing the chance criminals get caught and thereby deterring them from committing crimes.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally posted by punkworld
Publicity means funding, funding makes sure they can do more experiments. That's the way the academic/research world works these days.

And all governments are trying to do stuff to prevent crimes, really. In fact, this is one of the things that are done against crime - increasing the chance criminals get caught and thereby deterring them from committing crimes.

i knew you were going to say that next heh...

good argument , but if they actually started making more realistic punishments then this shit wouldn't happen.

You are always hearing about some sick fuck who gets 3 years for raping some lady, or other violent crimes. And a guy with a gram of coke does 6 years.

If they change that shit around i would be alot more likely to allow them to use my shit..

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

I dont give a fuck what they do with my body once I am dead.. I hope they rip my organs out and give them to some one who needs them.. then you can throw my body to the fucking grizzlys and let them snack a bit...once youre dead.. youre dead..no use for your body anymore..will you really give a shit after you are dead?

[mardigras]

Serious. Why would I care what someone was doing with my corpse's genetalia if someone was given new life from one of my organs. If they took them prematurely it's not like they took them away from me kicking and screaming

[sacX]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
no thats not what i meant. He gets money for doing the operation..

Like, example.

A rich guy comes in with loads of money to spend , his liver is failing and he will soon die. Liver transplants cost $ XXX,XXX.

Joe-Crackhead comes in with an overdose, no money no insurance no job.

If the doctor saves him, he will most likely be back again and again making the doctor no cash whatsoever and eventually will ruin his liver to the point its not even usable if he dies.

If the doc lets him die, he not only saves himself and the hospital money because the guy wont come back every week overdosing. He will also make money from the trasplant to the rich guy , and not only that he will be able to RE-BILL the rich texan forever on the new liver.

If the texan ever tries to CHARGEBACK his liver transplant the doctor can make even more money..

An organ has to be tissue matched so the recipient gets an organ that is less likely to be rejected. So you can't just say let's give rich texan dude this liver.

The tissue match information is fed into a database and the recipient is found based on criteria like quality of match, length on list, current health etc.
It is then transported to this match, there are international registers so sometimes the organ would go out of the country.

Also the Doc who deals with the crackhead off the street will never be a transplant surgeon

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by Doc911
Its against my religion to donate organs. the dead should remain intact. not used as guinee pigs

Guinea pigs?

It saves innocent lives.

[Doc911]

Originally posted by sickkittens
Guinea pigs?

It saves innocent lives.

The end does not justify the means.