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Old 10-04-2004, 02:40 PM   #1
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This is fucking RIDICULOUS...

I applied for a birth certificate for our baby so we could travel and get her SIN number etc, and I filled out the application, sent in payment, etc. They charged me, but sent a new application sayign that I had to have it signed by a guarantor that i've known for at least two years and listed off a bunch of acceptable occupations for guarantors... Now how the hell am I supposed to find anyone that fits that bill when I just moved here? I'm not driving three hours to get a signature, and I'm not getting on a plane to fly out west. How stupid is this? I am going to so call and scream at someone tomorrow.


Just figured I'd share my angst.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:50 PM   #2
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:53 PM   #3
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:54 PM   #4
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Terrible, i know how it is in Canada when it comes to paperwork from the government.

but thats what you get in a socialist country, when technically nobody is in power, and nobody cares whos in power.

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Old 10-04-2004, 02:55 PM   #5
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doing anything with passports etc is such a huge headache now. ugh.
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Old 10-04-2004, 02:57 PM   #6
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Lady M, I just went thru all this shit myself. I just got my chiropractor to sign for me although he hasn't quite known me for 2 years shhhhhhh!

It's a real pain in the ass, but trust me it's better than getting a passport renewed LOL! I just had to go through that shit today!

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P.S. You might want to contact your local MP about this, he/she might be able to help.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:01 PM   #7
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Lady M, I just went thru all this shit myself. I just got my chiropractor to sign for me although he hasn't quite known me for 2 years shhhhhhh!

It's a real pain in the ass, but trust me it's better than getting a passport renewed LOL! I just had to go through that shit today!

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P.S. You might want to contact your local MP about this, he/she might be able to help.
Yeah I was thinking of that... I will be phoning them tomorrow to find out what my options are... They just piss me off so badly.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:47 PM   #8
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I don't get it. So you guys don't automatically get birth certificates for your kids there?

Here, someone comes to the hospital room before you ever go home with the baby and gets all the info. Then, in a few weeks it arrives in the mail.

You used to have to go to the social security office and apply for the baby's ssn right after it was born, and then they sent that to you in the mail. All you needed was the birthcertificate to apply, though. The hospital even gave you a temporary one to take home with you and use until the official one came in the mail.

Now, you don't even have to do that. They do the ssn stuff at the hospital when they do the birth certificate and both come in the mail.
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I had my accountant do it when I needed a passport and he had only known me for like 6-9 months at the time.

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I applied for a birth certificate for our baby so we could travel and get her SIN number etc, and I filled out the application, sent in payment, etc. They charged me, but sent a new application sayign that I had to have it signed by a guarantor that i've known for at least two years and listed off a bunch of acceptable occupations for guarantors... Now how the hell am I supposed to find anyone that fits that bill when I just moved here? I'm not driving three hours to get a signature, and I'm not getting on a plane to fly out west. How stupid is this? I am going to so call and scream at someone tomorrow.


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How could this happen in the socialist and pacifist Nirvana called Canada????
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:54 PM   #11
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Same thing when you get a passport, you need a "professional" to do it.
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Old 10-04-2004, 03:56 PM   #12
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Why do you have to know someone and get their signature to get a birth certificate for your baby?
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How could this happen in the socialist and pacifist Nirvana called Canada????
Since when are we socialists or pacifists? I haven't read the newspaper today yet, did they change our government on me?

You should learn more about your neighbors. We're capitalists and we've kicked ass in plenty of wars, not to mention fighting is an accepted part of the game in our national pass time.
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It seems that nothings for free nowadays. we have to go thru allthe hustle and bustle of life, and it starts from birth.
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Since when are we socialists or pacifists? I haven't read the newspaper today yet, did they change our government on me?

You should learn more about your neighbors. We're capitalists and we've kicked ass in plenty of wars, not to mention fighting is an accepted part of the game in our national pass time.
not socialist huh . . .that is news
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Old 10-04-2004, 07:36 PM   #17
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I applied for a birth certificate for our baby so we could travel and get her SIN number etc, and I filled out the application, sent in payment, etc. They charged me, but sent a new application sayign that I had to have it signed by a guarantor that i've known for at least two years and listed off a bunch of acceptable occupations for guarantors... Now how the hell am I supposed to find anyone that fits that bill when I just moved here? I'm not driving three hours to get a signature, and I'm not getting on a plane to fly out west. How stupid is this? I am going to so call and scream at someone tomorrow.


Just figured I'd share my angst.
ya my friend his 2 year old they just got their birth cert, its stupid. they been waiting all this time.
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Old 10-05-2004, 07:55 AM   #20
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I'm having the same problem with my passport. I'm supposed to name 2 people who have known me for 2 years or more, plus the attestation of someone who is a doctor, lawyer, etc. I'm a fucking recluse, I don't know anyone! So now I have to go to court and swear under oath that I'm a decent guy, and the judge will decide whether or not to issue a passport. It's a farce.
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Old 10-05-2004, 08:13 AM   #21
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send it to someone you know via Fed Ex overnite. They sign it and send it back.



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LadyM - If you can't get it signed by a lawyer, accountant, priest - I think you can get it signed by a commissioner of oaths - try the bank where you opened your accounts - the manager should be able to sign that for you, if not, City Hall or the burrough office should have a commissioner of oaths to sign that for you.
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Why do you have to know someone and get their signature to get a birth certificate for your baby?
It states right on the paper that not only must the guarantor be someone who is in one of the acceptable fields, but they must have known you for at least two years.
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yup, I'm going thru the same b/s w/ my passport..and then I gotta wait 2 hours in the passport office...
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Interesting that you dont get an application for a social security card for your child in the hospital. It sure makes life less complicated.
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