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Old 10-12-2004, 11:03 AM   #1
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Kerry/Edwards..this is fucking reaching...

Edwards: 'When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk. Get up out of that wheelchair and walk again'...





BE HEALED!!!
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hate to be the first to break it to you... but "people like Christopher Reeve" will not walk again. they're dead.
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:16 AM   #3
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Edwards: 'When John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk. Get up out of that wheelchair and walk again'...





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That just won my vote. Golly, I can't wait until next year! I'll be playing rugby again in no time!
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That just won my vote. Golly, I can't wait until next year! I'll be playing rugby again in no time!
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That just won my vote. Golly, I can't wait until next year! I'll be playing rugby again in no time!
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It is not hyperbole.

Embryonic Stem Cells will be able to repair spinal damage like Christopher Reeve suffered. Christopher Reeve might be alive and walking today if Bush had not limited research for the last 4 years. I wish the science behind this was getting more coverage...

Embryonic Stem Cells are 'pre-cells' that have not decided what they're going to become yet. They can grow into any human tissue, muscle, bone, or brain; including parts of your body like the spine that cannot heal by itself. Already we can grow new teeth. It's amazing.

This is the most important advancement since the invention of antibiotics.
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Old 10-12-2004, 12:07 PM   #8
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hate to be the first to break it to you... but "people like Christopher Reeve" will not walk again. they're dead.
Edwards is a master of voodoo. he's gonna raise their zombie bones.



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That just won my vote. Golly, I can't wait until next year! I'll be playing rugby again in no time!





praise jesus! i am healed!
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Im thinking its about how they will have money aside for research on things like what reeves had.
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It is not hyperbole.

Embryonic Stem Cells will be able to repair spinal damage like Christopher Reeve suffered. Christopher Reeve might be alive and walking today if Bush had not limited research for the last 4 years. I wish the science behind this was getting more coverage...

Embryonic Stem Cells are 'pre-cells' that have not decided what they're going to become yet. They can grow into any human tissue, muscle, bone, or brain; including parts of your body like the spine that cannot heal by itself. Already we can grow new teeth. It's amazing.

This is the most important advancement since the invention of antibiotics.
CamChicks, I must say your posts are always informative and well written.
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It is not hyperbole.

Embryonic Stem Cells will be able to repair spinal damage like Christopher Reeve suffered. Christopher Reeve might be alive and walking today if Bush had not limited research for the last 4 years. I wish the science behind this was getting more coverage...

Embryonic Stem Cells are 'pre-cells' that have not decided what they're going to become yet. They can grow into any human tissue, muscle, bone, or brain; including parts of your body like the spine that cannot heal by itself. Already we can grow new teeth. It's amazing.

This is the most important advancement since the invention of antibiotics.
I learned that in southpark!
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It is not hyperbole.

Embryonic Stem Cells will be able to repair spinal damage like Christopher Reeve suffered. Christopher Reeve might be alive and walking today if Bush had not limited research for the last 4 years. I wish the science behind this was getting more coverage...

Embryonic Stem Cells are 'pre-cells' that have not decided what they're going to become yet. They can grow into any human tissue, muscle, bone, or brain; including parts of your body like the spine that cannot heal by itself. Already we can grow new teeth. It's amazing.

This is the most important advancement since the invention of antibiotics.
Actually Christopher Reeve himself admitted in an interview awhile ago that embryonic stem cell research could NOT heal an injury such as his, however he did still support the research. Wrong again, dummy.
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ahhh, one of Drudge's unlinked "headlines". now i see.
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Actually Christopher Reeve himself admitted in an interview awhile ago that embryonic stem cell research could NOT heal an injury such as his, however he did still support the research. Wrong again, dummy.
Is Christopher Reeves a scientist? NO, so how in the hell some stupid superman actor can make such a statement? Ever thought of that dummy

Stem cells can cure lots of diseases and have a much bigger power than people think.
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Jesus hates stem cells.
But he LOVES cocaine, DUIs, war, infidelity, and blind arrogance!
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Is Christopher Reeves a scientist? NO, so how in the hell some stupid superman actor can make such a statement? Ever thought of that dummy

Stem cells can cure lots of diseases and have a much bigger power than people think.
Luckily we have scientists like you on GFY to set us straight.
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Well, I have a Master's in Biology
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i wonder if stem cells cna make your penis bigger
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And my degrees are in pre-med and cellular biology so blow me, brainiac. And yes, I would expect that someone like Christopher Reeve would certainly be knowledgable about what stem cell research can and cannot do considering the position he was in and the amount of time he spent campaigning on the subject. Go buy a clue.
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don't forget torture, I think that's on the list too ;)
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CamChicks, I must say your posts are always informative and well written.

Informative, but incorrect nevertheless. Those who claim that Bush is blocking nice people like Superman from achieving magical cures, are preposterous, if you know the facts...

Bush administration has limited spending on this, not limited research. In fact, there are no limits on the research to this day, there ARE limits on how many they use up for research. Also, there has no been no proof, not even remotely, that would claim that stem cell technology could improve a chronic malfunction, like spinal cord injury of the late Christopher Reeve. In fact, he even stated that publicly, but he also wants spending to increase so more information can be gained on this issue as quickly as possible. The democrats will pick up any issue if they think it will help them win, and Senator Edwards claiming Bush is the reason Christopher Reeve couldn't walk, or didn't make it.....Well , if you have half a brain you will laugh that off, coming from a trial lawyer you should take everything he says with a grain of salt.
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Informative, but incorrect nevertheless. Those who claim that Bush is blocking nice people like Superman from achieving magical cures, are preposterous, if you know the facts...

Bush administration has limited spending on this, not limited research. In fact, there are no limits on the research to this day, there ARE limits on how many they use up for research. Also, there has no been no proof, not even remotely, that would claim that stem cell technology could improve a chronic malfunction, like spinal cord injury of the late Christopher Reeve. In fact, he even stated that publicly, but he also wants spending to increase so more information can be gained on this issue as quickly as possible. The democrats will pick up any issue if they think it will help them win, and Senator Edwards claiming Bush is the reason Christopher Reeve couldn't walk, or didn't make it.....Well , if you have half a brain you will laugh that off, coming from a trial lawyer you should take everything he says with a grain of salt.
You're confusing CamChicks with facts and I demand you stop it right now.
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And my degrees are in pre-med and cellular biology so blow me, brainiac. And yes, I would expect that someone like Christopher Reeve would certainly be knowledgable about what stem cell research can and cannot do considering the position he was in and the amount of time he spent campaigning on the subject. Go buy a clue.
First of all Pre-Med is not a degree

Second of all, even scientists do not know the capabilities of stem cells (which are by definition, undifferentiated cells), so how in the hell a superman actor, without having any knowledge about microbiology, molecular biology, developmental biology and so on would know about stem cells.

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It is not hyperbole.

Embryonic Stem Cells will be able to repair spinal damage like Christopher Reeve suffered. Christopher Reeve might be alive and walking today if Bush had not limited research for the last 4 years. I wish the science behind this was getting more coverage...

Embryonic Stem Cells are 'pre-cells' that have not decided what they're going to become yet. They can grow into any human tissue, muscle, bone, or brain; including parts of your body like the spine that cannot heal by itself. Already we can grow new teeth. It's amazing.

This is the most important advancement since the invention of antibiotics.

bull fucking shit

Christopher Reeve's would have never walked if he would have lived 2 be 70 years old.
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bull fucking shit

Christopher Reeve's would have never walked if he would have lived 2 be 70 years old.
D00d don't worry about it, its just propaganda, its just another reason to try to get you to vote their way. Its no different than people in here stirring up unsubstantiated and baseless claims that the White House is going to magically shut us all down after November.... Makes me laugh, it's cute and all, but I don't eat bullshit for breakfast,
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D00d don't worry about it, its just propaganda, its just another reason to try to get you to vote their way. Its no different than people in here stirring up unsubstantiated and baseless claims that the White House is going to magically shut us all down after November.... Makes me laugh, it's cute and all, but I don't eat bullshit for breakfast,
I don't eat bullshit either.

some people are just dumber that a rock though, and a few will believe it..

Shows me how stupid they are.
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D00d don't worry about it, its just propaganda, its just another reason to try to get you to vote their way. Its no different than people in here stirring up unsubstantiated and baseless claims that the White House is going to magically shut us all down after November.... Makes me laugh, it's cute and all, but I don't eat bullshit for breakfast,
You sure ate that weapons of mass destruction bullshit though... and not just for breakfast but lunch and dinner as well.

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It is not hyperbole.

Embryonic Stem Cells will be able to repair spinal damage like Christopher Reeve suffered. Christopher Reeve might be alive and walking today if Bush had not limited research for the last 4 years. I wish the science behind this was getting more coverage...

Embryonic Stem Cells are 'pre-cells' that have not decided what they're going to become yet. They can grow into any human tissue, muscle, bone, or brain; including parts of your body like the spine that cannot heal by itself. Already we can grow new teeth. It's amazing.

This is the most important advancement since the invention of antibiotics.
I agree.
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send that to prez, maybe he will take notice,
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First of all Pre-Med is not a degree

Second of all, even scientists do not know the capabilities of stem cells (which are by definition, undifferentiated cells), so how in the hell a superman actor, without having any knowledge about microbiology, molecular biology, developmental biology and so on would know about stem cells.
Man, I don't know what I was doing taking all those classes to fulfill the requirements of a PRE-MED concentration in order to then take the MCAT's to get into medical school. I must have been dreaming. Major: Cell Biology Concentration: Pre-med. Sorry they didn't offer that where you went to school.

Anyhow, if you don't think Christopher Reeve knew what could and couldn't be done for his condition (the dude campaigned tirelessly for his cause, had multiple doctors, and 10 people a day to make his arms and legs move), you are the biggest moron around. Yes, stem cells can help acute injuries, no they can't cure chronic injuries such as his as of yet. Now can you enlighten me with anything else they taught you when you got your prestigious master's? I've always wondered which came first...the chicken or the egg?
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You sure ate that weapons of mass destruction bullshit though... and not just for breakfast but lunch and dinner as well.


So did your bafoon candidate for President. And almost the entire Congress. Shall I go over his remarks from the lead up to the war, vs. post-war comments? Want me to? I will if you forgot your flip flops to work

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Cool, got ya googling. Oh wait a minute, that's all you ever do. Anyhow, take a look at this one:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...9894262.htm?1c
"But scientists are still a long way from practical therapies. Kessler estimates it may take a decade before laboratory research with stem cells will be ready for experimental treatments in paralyzed patients."
Reeve would have died regardless of what Bush did or did not do. As I said in my earlier post, these things can't cure injuries like Reeve's right now. He knew, they know it, apparently you don't.

Btw, you're preaching to the choir for a change on this one. I support Kerry's position on stem cell research. However, to say if Kerry is elected all paralyzed people will walk again is pure propaganda as is blaming the lack of a cure today on Bush.
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Cool, got ya googling. Oh wait a minute, that's all you ever do. Anyhow, take a look at this one:
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"But scientists are still a long way from practical therapies. Kessler estimates it may take a decade before laboratory research with stem cells will be ready for experimental treatments in paralyzed patients."
Reeve would have died regardless of what Bush did or did not do. As I said in my earlier post, these things can't cure injuries like Reeve's right now. He knew, they know it, apparently you don't.

Btw, you're preaching to the choir for a change on this one. I support Kerry's position on stem cell research. However, to say if Kerry is elected all paralyzed people will walk again is pure propaganda as is blaming the lack of a cure today on Bush.
Thank you for not living in a fairytale world and thinking clearly for yourself, unfortunately people like CamChicks choose to ignore the facts and only post snidbits that support their opinion...and when they get proven wrong, they say something like Bush is evil....

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Man, I don't know what I was doing taking all those classes to fulfill the requirements of a PRE-MED concentration in order to then take the MCAT's to get into medical school. I must have been dreaming. Major: Cell Biology Concentration: Pre-med. Sorry they didn't offer that where you went to school.

Anyhow, if you don't think Christopher Reeve knew what could and couldn't be done for his condition (the dude campaigned tirelessly for his cause, had multiple doctors, and 10 people a day to make his arms and legs move), you are the biggest moron around. Yes, stem cells can help acute injuries, no they can't cure chronic injuries such as his as of yet. Now can you enlighten me with anything else they taught you when you got your prestigious master's? I've always wondered which came first...the chicken or the egg?
Pre-Med is NOT a degree dumbass, it is just a set of classes you have to take (Organic Chem, Inorganic Chem, Physics, Bio courses ect..), which are required for admission to U.S. medical schools. I was also Pre-Med and got into a medical school but decided not to go. Cell Biology, which you claim you studied, is a Degree.

Back to our topic, as CamChicks has posed, they are numerous of studies where stem cell transplants help to repair spinal cord injuries in rats and mice, so this is a FACT. Maybe the time has not yet come to apply this to humans, because of our dumb headed Bush, which he calls himself the president, but in near time future, if this research gains momentum, the cure will be possible. So instead of saying "stem cells can not cure my injury", Reeves should have said, Bush's stupid policies, which hold back the cure.

If you are a Cell Bio major, you should know of the major journals and websites, go to New England Journal of Medicine, Medline ect.. you will find enormous info on stems cells and how they do miracles in animals.

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Old 10-12-2004, 05:30 PM   #41
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Thank you for not living in a fairytale world and thinking clearly for yourself, unfortunately people like CamChicks choose to ignore the facts and only post snidbits that support their opinion...and when they get proven wrong, they say something like Bush is evil....

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As I've told CamChicks and his ilk multiple times, it is their extremist position on everything that most invalidates and renders irrelevant the very point they are trying to advance. I'm not expecting them to smarten up anytime soon though.
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Errr... CamChicks is a... chick.



You must be a genius, right?
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Pre-Med is NOT a degree dumbass, it is just a set of classes you have to take, which are required for admission to U.S. medical schools. I was also Pre-Med and got into a medical school but decided not to go. Cell Biology, which you claim you studied, is a Degree.

Back to our topic, as CamChicks has posed, they are numerous of studies where stem cell transplants help to repair spinal cord injuries in rats and mice, so this is a FACT. Maybe the time has not yet come to apply this to humans, because of our dumb headed Bush, which he calls himself the president, but in near time future, if this research gains momentum, the cure will be possible. So instead of saying "stem cells can not cure my injury", Reeves should have said, Bush's stupid policies, which hold back the cure.

If you are a Cell Bio major, you should know of the major journals and websites, go to New England Journal of Medicine, Medline ect.. you will find enormous info on stems cells and how they do miracles in animals.
Seems like you're trying VERY hard to sound smart, so I'll give you a cookie and say "good job, you're a bright little boy, Bobby". Thanks for clearing all that confusing college stuff up for me. I wonder how I get along without you.

As far as the stem cell issue, I just said to CamChicks that 1) I support Kerry's opinion on it 2) no, it could not have helped Reeve walk or saved his life regardless of what Bush did (the research is at least a decade away from that) and 3) no, just because you think something is the case, does not make it fact.

Now I must rest my brain...us lowly pre-med...er...cellular biology majors get tuckered out easily when matching wits with the dregs of GFY.
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No way! Is it the ugly girl in the sig? I was going to jokingly ask him/her to change that to a better looking chick a few posts ago. Hilarious! But if that's true, it does explain all the googling; no actual knowledge or thought. Thanks for the heads up though.
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I believe all the worlds scientists over the conservative luddites of GFY.

Any person or group who slows or limits the advacement of human evolution is an enemy of mankind. I can only dream of where we would be today were science not opposed by religious dogma for the past several thousand years.
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Agreed. But are you a girl? Seriously, I gotta know.
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I believe all he worlds scientists over the conservative luddites of GFY.

Any person or group who slows or limits the advacement of human evolution is an enemy of mankind. I can only dream of where we would be today were science not opposed by religious dogma for the past several thousand years.
It's funny you keep talking about religious dogma after the guy you were arguing with is A) Way more educated than you and B) I think this is the second time he's tried to get through your thick-headed skull and say "I SUPPORT KERRYS STEM CELL POSITION"... but u won't listen to any kind of sanity will you? You still want to believe hes a Bush supporter EVEN though hes screaming in your ugly (yes you are ugly) face that HE IS ON YOUR FUCKING SIDE.... Silly hahahaha, you belong on Meatholes.com
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Yes, but I don't do personal drama.
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Yes, but I don't do personal drama.
Who's looking for drama? If you're the girl in your sig, it's just beyond hilarious.
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