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Old 10-02-2004, 10:17 PM   #1
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Anyone in Ca know anything about restraining orders psycho bitch neighbor served me

Anyone in California have experience with restraining orders.
My psycho bitch neighbor had one served on me.

Fucking amazes me that someone can lie and get one. What sucks is it says I have to stay 100 yards from her property ?

I live next door and that would include all of my property.

Sounds like bullshit to me.


Funny thing is the stalker found my other phone line on the internet and left a message that I had a court hearing on Oct 1 at 9 a.m. for a restraining order.

LOL

NOW that's REAL fucking CIVIL harassment..




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Old 10-02-2004, 10:18 PM   #2
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ill break her legs whats the address?
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i have the feeling theres more to this story
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hahaha

thanks for the laugh.
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Old 10-02-2004, 10:23 PM   #5
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i have the feeling theres more to this story
Yeah,she's a felon that should have went to jail for elder fraud and has one million dollar judgements against her that she can not have deleted with bankruptcy due to fraud so she is looking for someone to sue.

I am just the lucky next door neighbor who has to put up with her shit.


She already killed my horse earlier in the year by intentionally flooding my pasture . Her life sucks so she trying to take someone down with her..
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Anyone in California have experience with restraining orders.
My psycho bitch neighbor had one served on me.

Fucking amazes me that someone can lie and get one. What sucks is it says I have to stay 100 yards from her property ?

I live next door and that would include all of my property.

Sounds like bullshit to me.

Funny thing is the stalker found my other phone line on the internet and left a message that I had a court hearing on Oct 1 at 9 a.m. for a restraining order.

LOL

NOW that's REAL fucking CIVIL harassment..

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Don't take this the wrong way, but stalers aren't generally the ones who take out restraining orders against the people they are stalking. Stalkers are usually the ones who get served with restraining orders.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but stalers aren't generally the ones who take out restraining orders against the people they are stalking. Stalkers are usually the ones who get served with restraining orders.
I know that. You never live next to a crazy criminal before.




That's why I am going to have fun letting the judge hear the phone message and she can explain how she got the number.

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Yeah,she's a felon that should have went to jail for elder fraud and has one million dollar judgements against her that she can not have deleted with bankruptcy due to fraud so she is looking for someone to sue.

I am just the lucky next door neighbor who has to put up with her shit.


She already killed my horse earlier in the year by intentionally flooding my pasture . Her life sucks so she trying to take someone down with her..
Thats some crazy fucked up shit..lucky you.
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Sounds like you had a TRO placed on you and not a full restraining order.

She is supposed to say if it will interfere with your workplace or home if it is placed into effect, on the application.

She obviously already served you I would suppose since you know about it. So she was given the TRO, you need to go to court ASAP and petition it now. Since legally she can nail your ass at any time when she calls the cops.
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I know that. You never live next to a crazy criminal before.




That's why I am going to have fun letting the judge hear the phone message and she can explain how she got the number.

LOL
I am not accusing YOU of being the staklker, just pointingh out a generalization. Maybe she knows this too and will try to accuse you of stalking her aty some point. Sounds like you may want to think about moving.
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Thats some crazy fucked up shit..lucky you.
Yeah, I had emailed the D.A. that tried to get her locked away for the fraud in July for advise and he gave it to me then asked me license plates on her vehicles so I am guessing they are watching her closely and are going to do something.


Fucking with me is her last pathic effort to do some damage before she is probably going to be locked away.

She's hiding her assets which is a big no no when you are in bankruptcy.
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I am not accusing YOU of being the staklker, just pointingh out a generalization. Maybe she knows this too and will try to accuse you of stalking her aty some point. Sounds like you may want to think about moving.
She 's a clever one . I think leaving the phone message will be her big down follow.
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Sounds like you had a TRO placed on you and not a full restraining order.

She is supposed to say if it will interfere with your workplace or home if it is placed into effect, on the application.

She obviously already served you I would suppose since you know about it. So she was given the TRO, you need to go to court ASAP and petition it now. Since legally she can nail your ass at any time when she calls the cops.
Cool thanks for the info. I am new to this crap.

The court date is not til the 22nd. I was going to go down there on Monday and complain since it affects my home and work.

My hubby told the sheriffs when they gave it to me that I am in the 100 yards and they need to take me away right now. LOL


The bastards tried to tell me I can't go outside. I have a horse ranch and a colt that I put 4k into that I am trying to save. I can't sit in my house.


I knew she was up to something cause everytime I would go down to take care of my colt or give my other horses water, she would come up to the fence with a fucking smirk on her face..
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Huh?

I am not making up this shit. I am tempted to use some of it in a books .LOL..

LORD I wish it was fake. I am just venting.

These society sucks that that let fucking loony felons out to harass others..
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Sounds like you had a TRO placed on you and not a full restraining order.

She is supposed to say if it will interfere with your workplace or home if it is placed into effect, on the application.

She obviously already served you I would suppose since you know about it. So she was given the TRO, you need to go to court ASAP and petition it now. Since legally she can nail your ass at any time when she calls the cops.
you are partially right . . . yeah, it is a TRO, but a TRO means the court wants her to appear if she doesn't want it to become a restraining order.

unless you are psycho, I would suggest you appear
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The bastards tried to tell me I can't go outside.
No restraining order, temporary or otherwise, is going to force you under house arrest
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No restraining order, temporary or otherwise, is going to force you under house arrest
Yup until it is lifted.
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you are partially right . . . yeah, it is a TRO, but a TRO means the court wants her to appear if she doesn't want it to become a restraining order.

unless you are psycho, I would suggest you appear
It is an order to show cause/ TRO. I think it might be invalid though cause it makes me commit a misdemeanor at the time of being serviced by just being on my property.


OH, I will be there along with my hubby.

I moved to the country to get away for this shit. I guess being in a neighbor hood where the houses are 500k to 1.5 million does not help any..
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No restraining order, temporary or otherwise, is going to force you under house arrest
Thanks I appreciate your input.

I thought I would ask around cause I think I might have a legal case.

I already sent an email to the D.A. so if it is illegal I will probably get an email back about it.
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Excuse me . . .perhaps I misunderstood . . . you are trying to say a TRO or RO can keep you under virtual house arrest? I hope not, but just in case.

TRO's are mutual, if you won't let me within 50' of you, you can't come within 50' of me. Or else you violate the TRO also, and be default, the TRO would go out of effect.
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It is an order to show cause/ TRO. I think it might be invalid though cause it makes me commit a misdemeanor at the time of being serviced by just being on my property.


OH, I will be there along with my hubby.

I moved to the country to get away for this shit. I guess being in a neighbor hood where the houses are 500k to 1.5 million does not help any..

Why? Because your house is within'100' of her? Seriously, you should go to a legal aid office of something. You are totally clueless about law, and should you choose to defend yourself (and yes, that is what you will be doing, defending yourself) I am concerned that you are going to conduct yourself in such a manner that the judge is going to think you are the crazy one, and find for the Petitioner.

You are not qualified to represent yourself. get help, seriously.
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Excuse me . . .perhaps I misunderstood . . . you are trying to say a TRO or RO can keep you under virtual house arrest? I hope not, but just in case.

TRO's are mutual, if you won't let me within 50' of you, you can't come within 50' of me. Or else you violate the TRO also, and be default, the TRO would go out of effect.
It does not say she has to and it is 100 yards which is 300 feet of my property.

I need to research this at some law place.
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I thought I would ask around cause I think I might have a legal case.
what kind of legal case?
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Why? Because your house is within'100' of her? Seriously, you should go to a legal aid office of something. You are totally clueless about law, and should you choose to defend yourself (and yes, that is what you will be doing, defending yourself) I am concerned that you are going to conduct yourself in such a manner that the judge is going to think you are the crazy one, and find for the Petitioner.

You are not qualified to represent yourself. get help, seriously.
Yes, I am clueless of the law !
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It does not say she has to and it is 100 yards which is 300 feet of my property.

I need to research this at some law place.
(I was using 50' as an example) . . . anyway . .

Doesn't say she has to? Okay, tell me this, if I get a restraining order on you, do you honestly think the court is going to allow me to approach you just so you automatically violate it?

Give me a break. Trust me, she can not get within 100 yards of you either. It means you can't approach her. Nothing else. It is not like if you are at the market shopping and she walks in that you are now subject to arrest.
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Yes, I am clueless of the law !
Then don't do this yourself. I am quite familiar with it, and have spent many hours in courtrooms, watching people trying to wing it, that got so fucked, simply because they said the wrong thing.

Think of Judge Judy, or Judge Brown, and the stupid things people say that cause them to lose. Happens all the time when people try to do things they are not qualified to do.

If the results matter, leave nothing to chance.
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what kind of legal case?
I have to talk to an attorney about that. I do think my rights have been valiated since I have been told I can't leave the house.

I have been served with a TRO and told I can not go out of my house and take care of my horses. My horses are one of my businesses.

Ex. If one of my horses gets caught on the fence or pull the hotwire down, I could not go take care of the horses or the fence if she is standing around.
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Then don't do this yourself. I am quite familiar with it, and have spent many hours in courtrooms, watching people trying to wing it, that got so fucked, simply because they said the wrong thing.

Think of Judge Judy, or Judge Brown, and the stupid things people say that cause them to lose. Happens all the time when people try to do things they are not qualified to do.

If the results matter, leave nothing to chance.
Actually, I was in small claims court when I did day care years ago, and I won. The judge even awarded me 9 times what I asked for just to piss the girl off cause she was lying so much.

I actually only got the amount I asked for but I know the judge did it just to give her a rise..

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I have to talk to an attorney about that. I do think my rights have been valiated since I have been told I can't leave the house.

I have been served with a TRO and told I can not go out of my house and take care of my horses. My horses are one of my businesses.

Ex. If one of my horses gets caught on the fence or pull the hotwire down, I could not go take care of the horses or the fence if she is standing around.
See an attorney. She is using legal leverage and basicly that is not violating your rights.
Did she name both you and your husband? If not then cant your husband deal with horses?
What reasoning did she place on the TRO?

Then you also said she has judgements already on her record, so even if you "did" have a case, what do you think you could really collect? Specially in CA which has a homestead law.
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Actually, I was in small claims court when I did day care years ago, and I won. The judge even awarded me 9 times what I asked for just to piss the girl off cause she was lying so much.

I actually only got the amount I asked for but I know the judge did it just to give her a rise..

LOL
Small claims is not civil or superior court. In small claims your not allowed an attorney in the court room. The other courts are another game with very, very technical rules.
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I have to talk to an attorney about that. I do think my rights have been valiated since I have been told I can't leave the house.

I have been served with a TRO and told I can not go out of my house and take care of my horses. My horses are one of my businesses.

Ex. If one of my horses gets caught on the fence or pull the hotwire down, I could not go take care of the horses or the fence if she is standing around.
Honeyslut . . . one more time . . . the TRO can not force you under house arrest. You can go outside, you can take care of your horses. You do not have a case, your rights have not been violated. Not to be demeaning, but don't be an idiot.

If you go to court and say "I can't leave my house because of this TRO, the judge is going to think you are insane.

If you were yelling and screaming and going nuts when you were served, I can imagine the cop did tell you to stay inside just to shut you up.
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Actually, I was in small claims court when I did day care years ago, and I won. The judge even awarded me 9 times what I asked for just to piss the girl off cause she was lying so much.

I actually only got the amount I asked for but I know the judge did it just to give her a rise..

LOL
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what brought all of this about?
She's a manipulater and I won't let her .

I pissed her off cause I have told her not to flood my pasture after I lost my colt. She would not stop. I complained to the water co, the county coding and nobody would do anything.

Finally, last month my hub put a complaint on file at the animal control so if we lose another animal because of her , there will be a record.

She has flipped because of this and thinks I did it. She already made a fake 911 call on me when I was cleaning up the fiberglass of an old building we were tearing down. Told the sheriff's I threatened her when she actually threatened me. She said I was intentionally spooking her horses. I was nowhere near the fence or her animals.

When they came to talk to me and asked my side of the story, I said I had been advised to file a TRO by the DA. She was probably standing on the other side of the trees listening and wants to stay one step ahead of me.
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Finally, last month my hub put a complaint on file at the animal control so if we lose another animal because of her , there will be a record.

She has flipped because of this and thinks I did it.
Umm, but you did do it.
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I said I had been advised to file a TRO by the DA
Let me get this straight . . the DA told you to do it, and you didn't . . . yet you come to GFY for legal advice?
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Oh . . . and if you don't think the TRO is mutual, go file one on her. What are you waiting on? If you aren't psycho, make the court restrain her instead
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Umm, but you did do it.
oh, not her . . . . her husband . . . . I guess that is supposed to make a difference
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Honeyslut . . . one more time . . . the TRO can not force you under house arrest. You can go outside, you can take care of your horses. You do not have a case, your rights have not been violated. Not to be demeaning, but don't be an idiot.

If you go to court and say "I can't leave my house because of this TRO, the judge is going to think you are insane.

If you were yelling and screaming and going nuts when you were served, I can imagine the cop did tell you to stay inside just to shut you up.
I understand what you are saying.

here is what it says

6.UNTIL THE TIME OF THE HEARING THE COURTS orders that the restrained persno MUST stay atleast 100 yards away from the following protected persons and places


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Nope. I was not yelling. We were questioning them cause the order sounded illegal.
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Oh . . . and if you don't think the TRO is mutual, go file one on her. What are you waiting on? If you aren't psycho, make the court restrain her instead
I am going to file one on Monday. It's not mutual until I do file it.

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Umm, but you did do it.
No, I did not.
She helped kill his favorite horse.
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I understand what you are saying.

here is what it says

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Nope. I was not yelling. We were questioning them cause the order sounded illegal.
I know what it says, I also know the intent. That is standard wording.

I live in the city, I can't file a TRO on all my neighbors and make them move or stay indoors and lose their jobs because they park their car within 100 yards of my house.
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Nope. I was not yelling. We were questioning them cause the order sounded illegal.

you may call it questioning . . . I am willing to bet the cop heard it with a slightly different tone/volume
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Let me get this straight . . the DA told you to do it, and you didn't . . . yet you come to GFY for legal advice?
I have been caring for a injured colt since 7/14 so I have not had any extra time to go file stuff.

I know I fucked up. My hub kept telling me she was just fucking with me and to ignore her.

I did call an attorney that he advised in July but I did not hear back from him. He was the one that did the elder fraud case against her and lost.

( he knows she does not have money )


Hey , I was just asking if anyone received one before since I thought mine was illegal.
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I know what it says, I also know the intent. That is standard wording.

I live in the city, I can't file a TRO on all my neighbors and make them move or stay indoors and lose their jobs because they park their car within 100 yards of my house.
There is no word INTENT in this. It is a fucking order and a fuck up by the county.

I was told I am committing a misdemeanor if I go outside when she is outside.
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There is no word INTENT in this. It is a fucking order and a fuck up by the county.

I was told I am committing a misdemeanor if I go outside when she is outside.
the INTENT of the law is rarely included on any Judicial Council approved form. . . . but hey . . . have fun.
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