Serious thread about DEATH - GoFuckYourself.com

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 12:33 AM

I've been thinking a lot about shit and it really boggles my mind about what happens after you die. In some aspectes I guess I can buy the whole "heaven" or "hell" thing, but I really don't know. Maybe when you die it's basically no different then how things were before you were born. Can anybody give me some thoughts or INTELLEGENT feedback. Anybody who wants to be an asshole in this thread, please don't bother posting.

dig420 · 10-02-2004, 12:34 AM

I try not to think about it.

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
I try not to think about it.

I know what you mean but no matter how much I don't think about it, there are always those times where I KNOW that it can and WILL happen at any time and it is inevidable.

mardigras · 10-02-2004, 12:36 AM

You have no control over it, you're gonna die. Live your days the best you can and don't fuck others over.

PenisFace · 10-02-2004, 12:37 AM

Why bother worrying about what comes after death? If you die and thats it, nadda, cease to exist, soul and all...

Why spend time thinking about it, when you only have on life to live? My thoughts are, when you die is when you truely know if there is life after death. Or you don't know anything anymore, seeing as you're dead.

Just try to live as long as possible... And hope there isn't a bus out there somewhere with your name on it.

strats · 10-02-2004, 12:39 AM

so many philosophies already appearing in this thread. dont buy it'

thats the first rule

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 12:39 AM

It's just that there has to be some kind of meaning to life. I'm not sure that when you die there really is a heaver, or if there is reincarnation, or if you are basically in an eternal sleep or what. I am just questioning the whole concept of life right now (a little drunk too)

SleazeQueen · 10-02-2004, 12:46 AM

The problem with this argument is that there's no way to know for sure until you're there, and once you're there, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway. Right?

I believe certain things. Nothing you're going to read about in some really old book or hear about on TV. I've been through things and seen things that make me believe something happens beyond just *poof* that's it. There is something amazing happening at that minute, but I can't tell you what it is. I hope not to be able to tell you for a VERY long time.

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 12:51 AM

This girl I knew one told me that she was on some kind of medication and one night she woke up and couldn't breathe, and had enough energy to get to her parents. Anyway, she was clinically dead for like 15 mins or so, and while she was unconsious, she said that she had an "out of body experience" and knew the names of all the paramedics that helped her out during this episide. She's a good friend of mine so I know she wouldn't bullshit me. It just seems interesting that during when she was DEAD, she knew all their names cause when she was out of body she read all their name tags!!!!

Phoenix · 10-02-2004, 12:52 AM

learn to accept it and move on

we are all worm food in the end

unless you are cremated

id like to be burnt on top of a mountain

probably laws against it..but i should have enough money by then

bestwaysex · 10-02-2004, 12:52 AM

NDEs [Near Death Experiences] are the closest things you will ever come to finding out what happens after you're dead, until you're ACTUALLY dead..

Read up some things on http://nderf.org

Though i doubt even they know what happens after you're dead.. but enough people have stated similar things from their NDEs to make some promising claims

Vitasoy · 10-02-2004, 12:55 AM

For life in the present there is no death. Death is not an event in life. It is not a fact in the world.

Phoenix · 10-02-2004, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by Vitasoy
For life in the present there is no death. Death is not an event in life. It is not a fact in the world.

i want to sit and talk with you one day

a show or something..dinner is on me

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
This girl I knew one told me that she was on some kind of medication and one night she woke up and couldn't breathe, and had enough energy to get to her parents. Anyway, she was clinically dead for like 15 mins or so, and while she was unconsious, she said that she had an "out of body experience" and knew the names of all the paramedics that helped her out during this episide. She's a good friend of mine so I know she wouldn't bullshit me. It just seems interesting that during when she was DEAD, she knew all their names cause when she was out of body she read all their name tags!!!!

Interesting. She knew their names without ever having met them?

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 12:58 AM

I think it's just insane how there is so much shit around us (Space, Time, the world, solar system, the universe, etc) and our life is so short. There has to be a REASON why all this shit exists and yet our life is so short!! In lots of ways I believe in evolution, but creatitionism I believe fits into it. But what if "god" created evolution. And what is god? I will admit I am not religious, but I still have a fascination with shit that I don't know much about.

hydro · 10-02-2004, 01:01 AM

Just enjoy life and remember to live twice as much as you work. Its sad when i think about how many people spend thier life working and paying bills instead of doing the stuff they always wanted to or spedning time with thier family. I would hope there is a heaven where we can all meet up with family members and friends (assuming they aren't in hell

) but we'll never know until we die, and thats if we are even able to process a thought.

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
learn to accept it and move on

we are all worm food in the end

unless you are cremated

id like to be burnt on top of a mountain

probably laws against it..but i should have enough money by then

You can't possibly KNOW this for sure. The events you describe are what happen to the physical body. But there may well be more to us than just a physical body.

hydro · 10-02-2004, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
I think it's just insane how there is so much shit around us (Space, Time, the world, solar system, the universe, etc) and our life is so short. There has to be a REASON why all this shit exists and yet our life is so short!! In lots of ways I believe in evolution, but creatitionism I believe fits into it. But what if "god" created evolution. And what is god? I will admit I am not religious, but I still have a fascination with shit that I don't know much about.

evolution is tricky, that atomic nucleus had to come from somewhere.

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 01:06 AM

Yeah, there has to be a reason for every single thing that exists. From what a good friend of mine told me, life is simply a step, and when you die, you go to the next step. And there are either a certain number of steps or an infinite number of steps. I believe there is a true meaning and reason for anything and EVERYTHING that exists

Jakke PNG · 10-02-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
It's just that there has to be some kind of meaning to life.

Why?
We're animals ment to reproduce, and the human race has gotten out of control.
Born - eat - shit - fuck - breed - die
repeat with next generation

DWB · 10-02-2004, 01:08 AM

There is a great book called "A Glorious Accident" that talks about this and other thoughts. How everything has to be just so in order for life to exist... foes into full detail about what life HAS to have to exist. Really neat.

A good read if you want to bend your mind a little.

wdsguy · 10-02-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by SleazeQueen
The problem with this argument is that there's no way to know for sure until you're there, and once you're there, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway. Right?

I believe certain things. Nothing you're going to read about in some really old book or hear about on TV. I've been through things and seen things that make me believe something happens beyond just *poof* that's it. There is something amazing happening at that minute, but I can't tell you what it is. I hope not to be able to tell you for a VERY long time.

yea its kinda funny we will prob have to wait awhile before we get a answer to one of life's biggest questions.

Jakke PNG · 10-02-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
Yeah, there has to be a reason for every single thing that exists. From what a good friend of mine told me, life is simply a step, and when you die, you go to the next step. And there are either a certain number of steps or an infinite number of steps. I believe there is a true meaning and reason for anything and EVERYTHING that exists

That's utter bullshit. He just can't cope with the fact that he turns to dirt and wormfood after he dies, nothing more.

Phoenix · 10-02-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
Yeah, there has to be a reason for every single thing that exists. From what a good friend of mine told me, life is simply a step, and when you die, you go to the next step. And there are either a certain number of steps or an infinite number of steps. I believe there is a true meaning and reason for anything and EVERYTHING that exists

the Jesuits from europe missioning in the new world..south america felt the same way

but that was in the 1700's

everything for a reason thus there is no free will

Living For Today · 10-02-2004, 01:11 AM

Nothing will happen. You die. That's it. You go to sleep. You are goneski.

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 01:11 AM

There is one thought that really boggles the mind. What if there was "NOTHING"!!!! Absolute ZERO matter in the entire known universe!!! Total blackness, total nothing, NOT A SINGLE FUCKING ATOM!!! If you think about that enough, it will start to hurt!!!!!

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Living For Today
Nothing will happen. You die. That's it. You go to sleep. You are goneski.

You can't possibly know this for sure.

johndoebob · 10-02-2004, 01:13 AM

Face it - you're dead, there isn't anything after, your personality is just gone.

Your brain and mind is totally biochemic and depends on your physical body, without it you can't exist.

Mind altering diseases like schizophrenia etc. proof this statement because they're biochemical caused.

Phoenix · 10-02-2004, 01:14 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
There is one thought that really boggles the mind. What if there was "NOTHING"!!!! Absolute ZERO matter in the entire known universe!!! Total blackness, total nothing, NOT A SINGLE FUCKING ATOM!!! If you think about that enough, it will start to hurt!!!!!

it's not that hard to picture as it wouldnt exist

i like this thread..no one is calling anyone names

serious topic..i give it 4 stars

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
That's utter bullshit. He just can't cope with the fact that he turns to dirt and wormfood after he dies, nothing more.

At 300 pounds, you're gonna feed the worms for a long time, dude.

It always amazes me how people think this way. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER DIED BEFORE.

Jakke PNG · 10-02-2004, 01:16 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You can't possibly know this for sure.

It's a lot more likely to happen than there to be an 'afterlife'

PenisFace · 10-02-2004, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
i want to sit and talk with you one day

a show or something..dinner is on me

Can I come?

Jakke PNG · 10-02-2004, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
At 300 pounds, you're gonna feed the worms for a long time, dude.

It always amazes me how people think this way. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER DIED BEFORE.

Good thing if my succulent body gives nutritions to a lot of worms.

But what does my weight have to do with anything? Trying to be witty? Maybe you shouldn't try, it's pathetic.

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
it's not that hard to picture as it wouldnt exist

i like this thread..no one is calling anyone names

serious topic..i give it 4 stars

Yea thats cool man. This shit has really infected my mind at random times in my life. Although I hate thinking about death, I tell myself that one day I WILL DIE and there is no avoiding it.

Phoenix · 10-02-2004, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by PenisFace
Can I come?

sure if you are around

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by DogsandBigCats
There is one thought that really boggles the mind. What if there was "NOTHING"!!!! Absolute ZERO matter in the entire known universe!!! Total blackness, total nothing, NOT A SINGLE FUCKING ATOM!!! If you think about that enough, it will start to hurt!!!!!

The concept of absolute nothingness is something that the human mind cannot process. You might think you can conceive of it but yout really can't.

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 01:28 AM

Sometimes I have to think, is death basically just a timewarp to your reincarnation? And what I mean by that is, your memory is erased and you are reborn to another life form? So much shit to think about!

DogsandBigCats · 10-02-2004, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
The concept of absolute nothingness is something that the human mind cannot process. You might think you can conceive of it but yout really can't.

That's what is so crazy about it!!! It is an idea!!! What if there was absolute nothingness!!! If you compare that to our life and the solar system, the galaxies, and the universe than besides life itself, there has to be a meaning to everything else as well! Whether it has life or not!

SleazeQueen · 10-02-2004, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Your brain and mind is totally biochemic and depends on your physical body, without it you can't exist.

But you are also consciousness and raw energy. Where does all that go at the moment of death? What about "the soul" if you believe in that?

Phoenix · 10-02-2004, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
The concept of absolute nothingness is something that the human mind cannot process. You might think you can conceive of it but yout really can't.

you would be suprised at what the human mind can process

my last year of school dealt with n-dimensional topics...you dont need to see everything to understand it

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
you would be suprised at what the human mind can process

my last year of school dealt with n-dimensional topics...you dont need to see everything to understand it

can you process infinity? absolute nothingness is similar. what did you study in schoold, btw?

johndoebob · 10-02-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by SleazeQueen
But you are also consciousness and raw energy. Where does all that go at the moment of death? What about "the soul" if you believe in that?

There is no soul and also no "raw energy" that could exist outside of your body.

Your personality can be totally changed through mind altering deseases.If an independend soul, raw energy or whatever you want to call it would exist this couldn't happen.

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Face it - you're dead, there isn't anything after, your personality is just gone.

Your brain and mind is totally biochemic and depends on your physical body, without it you can't exist.

Mind altering diseases like schizophrenia etc. proof this statement because they're biochemical caused.

You might have done a better job of convincing us if you had posted your message in ENGLISH.

Illusive Edge · 10-02-2004, 01:49 AM

Just believe what you want to believe. No one really knows what happens when you die, and there never will be a way to know. When I think of death, I just hope I die in my sleep when it is my time to go, and that helps me a lot when I think of dying. In my opinion if you think of death as something negative, you will not life your life to the fullest.

kowntafit · 10-02-2004, 01:51 AM

I think you are finished and that is it, you live as what you are and when that no longer exists neither do you.

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
There is no soul and also no "raw energy" that could exist outside of your body.

Your personality can be totally changed through mind altering deseases.If an independend soul, raw energy or whatever you want to call it would exist this couldn't happen.

If the brain is a FILTER for consciousness/personality, one would expect that changes to the FILTER would affect how an individual's consciousness/personaility is PERCEIVED by others.

johndoebob · 10-02-2004, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You might have done a better job of convincing us if you had posted your message in ENGLISH.

And you might have done a better job if you'd try to understand some english...

Tell me the sentence you you can't understand and I'll explain it to you, that's how it should be done...

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by kowntafit
I think you are finished and that is it, you live as what you are and when that no longer exists neither do you.

That is a good hypothesis, the default hypothesis = nothing happens. BUT YOU CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE!

johndoebob · 10-02-2004, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
If the brain is a FILTER for consciousness/personality, one would expect that changes to the FILTER would affect how an individual's consciousness/personaility is PERCEIVED by others.

Did you ever deal with somebody who had some form of heavy mental illness like schizophrenia?

boobmaster · 10-02-2004, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Did you ever deal with somebody who had some form of heavy mental illness like schizophrenia?

I am familiar with the disease and I have encountered persons who have been victims of it. How does this prove there is no soul?

10-02-2004, 12:33 AM	#1
DogsandBigCats Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where Dogs and Cats are Posts: 337	Serious thread about DEATH I've been thinking a lot about shit and it really boggles my mind about what happens after you die. In some aspectes I guess I can buy the whole "heaven" or "hell" thing, but I really don't know. Maybe when you die it's basically no different then how things were before you were born. Can anybody give me some thoughts or INTELLEGENT feedback. Anybody who wants to be an asshole in this thread, please don't bother posting. __________________ Sig too big

10-02-2004, 12:36 AM	#4
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	You have no control over it, you're gonna die. Live your days the best you can and don't fuck others over. __________________ .

10-02-2004, 12:37 AM	#5
PenisFace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,774	Why bother worrying about what comes after death? If you die and thats it, nadda, cease to exist, soul and all... Why spend time thinking about it, when you only have on life to live? My thoughts are, when you die is when you truely know if there is life after death. Or you don't know anything anymore, seeing as you're dead. Just try to live as long as possible... And hope there isn't a bus out there somewhere with your name on it. __________________ Need custom blog posts or articles? Hit me up: Blog And Article Writer Yes, I can do any kind of custom orders, too! ICQ: 641204000

10-02-2004, 12:39 AM	#7
DogsandBigCats Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where Dogs and Cats are Posts: 337	It's just that there has to be some kind of meaning to life. I'm not sure that when you die there really is a heaver, or if there is reincarnation, or if you are basically in an eternal sleep or what. I am just questioning the whole concept of life right now (a little drunk too) __________________ Sig too big

10-02-2004, 12:46 AM	#8
SleazeQueen Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western WA Posts: 634	The problem with this argument is that there's no way to know for sure until you're there, and once you're there, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway. Right? I believe certain things. Nothing you're going to read about in some really old book or hear about on TV. I've been through things and seen things that make me believe something happens beyond just poof that's it. There is something amazing happening at that minute, but I can't tell you what it is. I hope not to be able to tell you for a VERY long time. __________________ Bush can no more fire Rove than Charlie McCarthy could fire Edgar Bergen.

10-02-2004, 12:34 AM	#2
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	I try not to think about it.

10-02-2004, 12:39 AM	#6
strats Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,805	so many philosophies already appearing in this thread. dont buy it' thats the first rule

10-02-2004, 12:51 AM	#9
DogsandBigCats Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where Dogs and Cats are Posts: 337	This girl I knew one told me that she was on some kind of medication and one night she woke up and couldn't breathe, and had enough energy to get to her parents. Anyway, she was clinically dead for like 15 mins or so, and while she was unconsious, she said that she had an "out of body experience" and knew the names of all the paramedics that helped her out during this episide. She's a good friend of mine so I know she wouldn't bullshit me. It just seems interesting that during when she was DEAD, she knew all their names cause when she was out of body she read all their name tags!!!! __________________ Sig too big

10-02-2004, 12:52 AM	#10
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10-02-2004, 12:52 AM	#11
bestwaysex Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 154	NDEs [Near Death Experiences] are the closest things you will ever come to finding out what happens after you're dead, until you're ACTUALLY dead.. Read up some things on http://nderf.org Though i doubt even they know what happens after you're dead.. but enough people have stated similar things from their NDEs to make some promising claims __________________ Need a stable 50k/100k/150k+ TGP or MGP built? We are the best in the industry, no competition Hit me up on icq at: 16307149 Last edited by bestwaysex; 10-02-2004 at 12:54 AM..

10-02-2004, 12:55 AM	#12
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	For life in the present there is no death. Death is not an event in life. It is not a fact in the world. __________________ [email protected]

10-02-2004, 12:58 AM	#15
DogsandBigCats Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where Dogs and Cats are Posts: 337	I think it's just insane how there is so much shit around us (Space, Time, the world, solar system, the universe, etc) and our life is so short. There has to be a REASON why all this shit exists and yet our life is so short!! In lots of ways I believe in evolution, but creatitionism I believe fits into it. But what if "god" created evolution. And what is god? I will admit I am not religious, but I still have a fascination with shit that I don't know much about. __________________ Sig too big

10-02-2004, 01:01 AM	#16
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	Just enjoy life and remember to live twice as much as you work. Its sad when i think about how many people spend thier life working and paying bills instead of doing the stuff they always wanted to or spedning time with thier family. I would hope there is a heaven where we can all meet up with family members and friends (assuming they aren't in hell ) but we'll never know until we die, and thats if we are even able to process a thought.

10-02-2004, 01:06 AM	#19
DogsandBigCats Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where Dogs and Cats are Posts: 337	Yeah, there has to be a reason for every single thing that exists. From what a good friend of mine told me, life is simply a step, and when you die, you go to the next step. And there are either a certain number of steps or an infinite number of steps. I believe there is a true meaning and reason for anything and EVERYTHING that exists __________________ Sig too big

10-02-2004, 01:08 AM	#21
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	There is a great book called "A Glorious Accident" that talks about this and other thoughts. How everything has to be just so in order for life to exist... foes into full detail about what life HAS to have to exist. Really neat. A good read if you want to bend your mind a little.

10-02-2004, 01:11 AM	#25
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	Nothing will happen. You die. That's it. You go to sleep. You are goneski.

10-02-2004, 01:13 AM	#28
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Face it - you're dead, there isn't anything after, your personality is just gone. Your brain and mind is totally biochemic and depends on your physical body, without it you can't exist. Mind altering diseases like schizophrenia etc. proof this statement because they're biochemical caused. __________________

10-02-2004, 01:28 AM	#37
DogsandBigCats Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Where Dogs and Cats are Posts: 337	Sometimes I have to think, is death basically just a timewarp to your reincarnation? And what I mean by that is, your memory is erased and you are reborn to another life form? So much shit to think about! __________________ Sig too big

10-02-2004, 01:49 AM	#44
Illusive Edge Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 79	Just believe what you want to believe. No one really knows what happens when you die, and there never will be a way to know. When I think of death, I just hope I die in my sleep when it is my time to go, and that helps me a lot when I think of dying. In my opinion if you think of death as something negative, you will not life your life to the fullest. __________________ Dustin $12,750 In your Paypal, Stormpay, or E-Gold Account Guaranteed!

10-02-2004, 01:51 AM	#45
kowntafit Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 4,667	I think you are finished and that is it, you live as what you are and when that no longer exists neither do you. __________________ This is where my next million is coming from!