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sarettah · 09-27-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
So what happens to you when you die?

YOU are no more. It's over, done with, kaput, end of story.

Why does there need to be anything else ?

J B · 09-27-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You are a fucking stupid moron. See my sig. YOUR GOD (= CHANCE) CAN'T POSSIBLY EXIST. There are two choices. Life started by itself or was put here by a creator.

Life could not possibly have evolved from chance. Therefore, it must have been created. That doesn't necessarily mean the God of the bible is that creator., But it does mean that THERE IS A CREATOR.

That's what you believe... others believe something else...

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Why can't we have mutual respect for each others' beliefs?

crowkid · 09-27-2004, 10:05 PM

Aaron, what if I choose not to believe in your "fairy tales" of big booms and big bangs and all this randomness putting together an entire universe where everything works as a machine perfectly? To believe its all by chance, how perfect everything in this universe is (besides people like you) , is silly to me.

Whens the last time an explosion created something? Anyone have any proof this has EVER happened.

I understand though, we work in porn, we don't want to have to answer to a higher power for our actions. You just want to do what you want and not pay for it, I understand, I'm wrestling with that myself currently

sarettah · 09-27-2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Life could not possibly have evolved from chance. Therefore, it must have been created. That doesn't necessarily mean the God of the bible is that creator., But it does mean that THERE IS A CREATOR.

Why can it not just be chance ? If there were a creator that wanted man to be the top of the ladder, why did he use the same basic parts all the way through from the smallest animals to us ? Wouldn't he/she/it hae given us better equipment other than just fully opposable thumbs ?

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I guess you missed that day in the fourth grade when they talked about steryotypes. You assume that people who believe in God are all simple-minded. This is not true. If you want me to provide evidence of that fact, I will be happy to send you a copy of my doctoral thesis.

No idiot..The reason I think you are simple minded has nothing to do with your religious convictions.

You are always posting that this person = that person....So and so posted CP...Whatever....You are rarely, if ever correct and you fail to see that. This is what makes you simple minded.

It's also the definition of insanity.

Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results.

You're not an idiot because you believe in God....You are a sheep...And the bible itself suggests that....It's all about the "followers."

What makes you an idiot is the fact that you do not learn from your mistakes.

Evil1 · 09-27-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You are a fucking stupid moron. See my sig. YOUR GOD (= CHANCE) CAN'T POSSIBLY EXIST. There are two choices. Life started by itself or was put here by a creator.

Life could not possibly have evolved from chance. Therefore, it must have been created. That doesn't necessarily mean the God of the bible is that creator., But it does mean that THERE IS A CREATOR.

OH MY FUCK
I'm such a total fucking idiot. I'm sitting here looking for proof and fact and didnt even realize the answer is right in front of my face...

one biochemist and one pornographer said its so, thats solid enough for me

I feel sooooo silly, im going to go punch myself in the face repetitivley!

Evil1 · 09-27-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
So what happens to you when you die?

Breathing stops

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Do you want to read my doctoral thesis?

What is it about?

Joe Citizen · 09-27-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Evil1
OH MY FUCK
one biochemist and one pornographer said its so, thats solid enough for me

Hoyle wasn't even a biochemist, he was an astronomer and a mathematician.

He had his own agenda to push (his own theory) and his views are not accepted by mainstream biochemistry in any way.

WarChild · 09-27-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You are a fucking stupid moron. See my sig. YOUR GOD (= CHANCE) CAN'T POSSIBLY EXIST. There are two choices. Life started by itself or was put here by a creator.

Life could not possibly have evolved from chance. Therefore, it must have been created. That doesn't necessarily mean the God of the bible is that creator., But it does mean that THERE IS A CREATOR.

If life is so complex it requires the interaction of some creator, then we must assume the creator is at least as complex in nature as what it creates. Given that from your own statments something that complex could "not possibly have evolved from chance." then we must assume something also created the creator.

So if life has a creator, and the creator has a creator, and the creator's creator has a creator, ad nausem, then how many creators are there?

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Life could not possibly have evolved from chance. Therefore, it must have been created. That doesn't necessarily mean the God of the bible is that creator., But it does mean that THERE IS A CREATOR.

In an infinite universe of infinite possibilities anything is possible given a few billion years or more.

Pleasurepays · 09-27-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Evil1
OH MY FUCK

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
So what happens to you when you die?

You become worm food.

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by crowkid
Aaron, what if I choose not to believe in your "fairy tales" of big booms and big bangs and all this randomness putting together an entire universe where everything works as a machine perfectly? To believe its all by chance, how perfect everything in this universe is (besides people like you) , is silly to me.

Whens the last time an explosion created something? Anyone have any proof this has EVER happened.

I understand though, we work in porn, we don't want to have to answer to a higher power for our actions. You just want to do what you want and not pay for it, I understand, I'm wrestling with that myself currently

Have you heard of nuclear fusion? The sun and other stars are nuclear furnices creating this heavier matter from lighter elements.

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by crowkid
Aaron, what if I choose not to believe in your "fairy tales" of big booms and big bangs and all this randomness putting together an entire universe where everything works as a machine perfectly? To believe its all by chance, how perfect everything in this universe is (besides people like you) , is silly to me.

Since when have I ever stated any such fairy tails of big booms and bangs?

Kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth.

NinjaSteve · 09-27-2004, 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
So what happens to you when you die?

Well, it's kind of like a light bulb. You just go 'lights out' and that's the end. Then they bury you or burn you and cry and then forget about you.

But there's a way out of all this religous and death and what if talk... that's right... cryogenics bitches! Who's with me!!!
http://www.alcor.org/

BRISK · 09-27-2004, 10:17 PM

Who created the creator? That's the dude I wanna meet.

NinjaSteve · 09-27-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Who created the creator? That's the dude I wanna meet.

It was The Architect don't you remember?

boobmaster · 09-27-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by sarettah
YOU are no more. It's over, done with, kaput, end of story.

Why does there need to be anything else ?

You can't possibly know this for a fact. I love it when atheists, who say that theists do not think rationally, claim to KNOW things like this. Not very rartional, IMHO.

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaSteve
Well, it's kind of like a light bulb. You just go 'lights out' and that's the end. Then they bury you or burn you and cry and then forget about you.

But there's a way out of all this religous and death and what if talk... that's right... cryogenics bitches! Who's with me!!!
http://www.alcor.org/

I'm down, but I'm not only doing that freezing my head shit. Whole body only.

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You can't possibly know this for a fact. I love it when atheists, who say that theists do not think rationally, claim to KNOW things like this. Not very rartional, IMHO.

It's way more rational than creating a fantasy amusement park you go to instead of ceasing to exist.

boobmaster · 09-27-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by J B
That's what you believe... others believe something else...

This assertion was logically deduced from the facts I cited in my post. If you believe that chance 'created' life, you need to present a plausible account of how it happened.

NinjaSteve · 09-27-2004, 10:21 PM

Freezing the head is around $75k and whole body is about $130k. Unless they raised the prices a little. I plan on freezing my entire body incase they're not able to reattach brain stem. I've seen the video where they did the successful head transplant from one chimp to another chimp body. However he was alive and kickin, but was paraplegic. Apparetnly all of the fibers of the brainstem are the same color so you can't match them up exactly to the correct one.

But as science advances, I'm sure they'll figure something out.

Dead13 · 09-27-2004, 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
I see people in here all fucking day long posting horrible things about the God I believe in, without mercy, laughing and mocking like little children. In ANY OTHER forum, this type of disrespect would not be tollerated.

After a while, I get sick of listening to it and strike back. Maybe I do it in a less than loving manner most of the time, but it does offend me. Now you are telling me that in order to have access to this forum, I have to just sit there and take it. NO SIR!

It is OK to post pics of Jesus getting head from a 10 year old but if I raise any opposition to it, I get banned. Maybe I would have a better reputation if I kept my mouth shut, BUT I WILL NEVER COMPROMISE WHAT I BELIEVE IN FOR ANYTHING, EVER. I WILL DEFEND WHAT I BELIEVE, REGARDLESS OF THE CONSEQUENCES.

Here is a hint you over religious right wing fucktard... DON'T FREQUENT A BOARD CALLED GO FUCK YOURSELF.com IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID BY A MAJORITY OF ITS MEMBERS!!!

Don't like it? THEN GO AWAY!

I don't go to your church and start screaming about how fucked up you christian bastards are do I?

NinjaSteve · 09-27-2004, 10:23 PM

Actually my prices were incorrect. Here's the details and form of payment is through life insurance.

First, the death benefit must be no less than our minimum requirement, which is currently $50,000 for neuropatients and $120,000 for wholebody patients. (Members who choose the neuropatient option will receive cryopreservation only of the head and brain, in expectation that tissue regeneration will replace the body.) An additional $25,000 surcharge is applied for international applicants ($15,000 for residents of the United Kingdom, no surcharge for residents of Canada).

Dead13 · 09-27-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaSteve
Freezing the head is around $75k and whole body is about $130k. Unless they raised the prices a little. I plan on freezing my entire body incase they're not able to reattach brain stem. I've seen the video where they did the successful head transplant from one chimp to another chimp body. However he was alive and kickin, but was paraplegic. Apparetnly all of the fibers of the brainstem are the same color so you can't match them up exactly to the correct one.

But as science advances, I'm sure they'll figure something out.

Stem cell research! VOTE FOR KERRY!

codymc12 · 09-27-2004, 10:24 PM

As usual, this is an unwinnable arguement either way. It will never resolved, only be debated infinitely.

Why?

Because the conundrum is that both sides are fanatical about their views. By both sides, I mean The believer and the atheist (used for comparison, I know some said agnostic).

Both sides also feel, deeply, that the other's view is wrong, or even silly. And neither will be swayed, with rare exceptions, ever.

But it does make for interesting conversation.

BRISK · 09-27-2004, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13
I don't go to your church and start screaming about how fucked up you christian bastards are do I?

You should. It would be hilarious

Evil1 · 09-27-2004, 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaSteve
Well, it's kind of like a light bulb. You just go 'lights out' and that's the end. Then they bury you or burn you and cry and then forget about you.

But there's a way out of all this religous and death and what if talk... that's right... cryogenics bitches! Who's with me!!!
http://www.alcor.org/

Thats so 20th century. Cloning and brain transplants are where it's at.. and maybe a little genetic alteration in the dick department for those less fortunate.

wow.. boobmaster, doesnt that sound a fuckload more possible then your god theory? humans are making god and his heaven/hell a total non factor.. how ya feel over there buddy.. need a hug yet?

NinjaSteve · 09-27-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13
Stem cell research! VOTE FOR KERRY!

ok

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaSteve
Actually my prices were incorrect. Here's the details and form of payment is through life insurance.

First, the death benefit must be no less than our minimum requirement, which is currently $50,000 for neuropatients and $120,000 for wholebody patients. (Members who choose the neuropatient option will receive cryopreservation only of the head and brain, in expectation that tissue regeneration will replace the body.) An additional $25,000 surcharge is applied for international applicants ($15,000 for residents of the United Kingdom, no surcharge for residents of Canada).

Alright, I should be able to afford that fine as long as I don't raid my piggybank by the time i'm dead.

J B · 09-27-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
This assertion was logically deduced from the facts I cited in my post. If you believe that chance 'created' life, you need to present a plausible account of how it happened.

There are no facts and there is no proof, that's why it's called belief. Nobody knows for sure and calling somebody irrational because he has a different belief than you is not very rational

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
As usual, this is an unwinnable arguement either way. It will never resolved, only be debated infinitely.

What arguement? This thread is about boobmaster pushing his religious beliefs onto those of us who do not care to hear them.

sarettah · 09-27-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
You can't possibly know this for a fact. I love it when atheists, who say that theists do not think rationally, claim to KNOW things like this. Not very rartional, IMHO.

But you claim to know also. How is my knowing any less rational than your knowing ?

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by Dead13
I don't go to your church and start screaming about how fucked up you christian bastards are do I?

BAM!

Exactly.

codymc12 · 09-27-2004, 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
What arguement? This thread is about boobmaster pushing his religious beliefs onto those of us who do not care to hear them.

Not anymore, it isn't. It's devolved into a debate about creationism.

boobmaster · 09-27-2004, 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Hoyle wasn't even a biochemist, he was an astronomer and a mathematician.

He had his own agenda to push (his own theory) and his views are not accepted by mainstream biochemistry in any way.

Unlike atheists. The only thing you know about Hoyle is what you little atheist web sites spoon feed you. Have you ever read his argument? I have. I have also asked mathematicians about its plausibility. It is a solid argument, regardless of what your little atheist friends say about it.

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:32 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
Not anymore, it isn't. It's devolved into a debate about creationism.

That's just the useless shit that has been posted to bump my thread back up so that people continue to see my point.

It's all part of the game of GFY.

sarettah · 09-27-2004, 10:33 PM

What does it matter ? Whatever happens, happens. IMO you cannot prepare for the total unknown. It is better (again imo, don't want to get accused of "knowing" again) to make sure to live your life right rigt now then to worry about what may or may not happen in an unknown future.

boobmaster · 09-27-2004, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by uno
It's way more rational than creating a fantasy amusement park you go to instead of ceasing to exist.

There is some evidence which suggests that consciousness is independent of the brain. If this evidence is valid, it suggests that at least some part of us survives the grave. This question is independent of the qwuestion of whether or not there is a God.

uno · 09-27-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
There is some evidence which suggests that consciousness is independent of the brain. If this evidence is valid, it suggests that at least some part of us survives the grave. This question is independent of the qwuestion of whether or not there is a God.

Oh boy would I love to see this "evidence".

Dead13 · 09-27-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
BAM!

Exactly.

I don't have those little emotioncon thingys (yes I'm out of the loop) but I am taking a bow.

boobmaster · 09-27-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Evil1
Thats so 20th century. Cloning and brain transplants are where it's at.. and maybe a little genetic alteration in the dick department for those less fortunate.

wow.. boobmaster, doesnt that sound a fuckload more possible then your god theory? humans are making god and his heaven/hell a total non factor.. how ya feel over there buddy.. need a hug yet?

Voltaire said something like this a few hundred years ago. Religion is still here. Religion will always be here.

sarettah · 09-27-2004, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
There is some evidence which suggests that consciousness is independent of the brain. If this evidence is valid, it suggests that at least some part of us survives the grave. This question is independent of the qwuestion of whether or not there is a God.

What evidence ? Other than reported "personal proof", I know of none. But am certainly willing to listen to any actual proof.

sum ergo cogito (DesCartes had it backwards...

)

Evil1 · 09-27-2004, 10:37 PM

hey boobmaster.. question.. when god kills a newborn baby (fire/stillborn/car accident leaving the hospital/whatever) the baby's innocent right... he/she goes to heaven. Well who the fuck feeds this baby, gets up at 3 am to feed it, changes it's little angelic diapers? Is there a day care center up there or something?

why would god let a baby die.. tell me something other then "it's gods plan".. it's a fucking baby, never sinned, hell still borns never even get the opportunity to piss on their parents during a diaper change... thats how innocent they are.

Is that the god you're so in love with? seems like a real prick to me.

hydro · 09-27-2004, 10:37 PM

You really should quit pushing your beliefs onto other people boobmaster, i guess you don't relize that no matter what you say or do you can't change thier opinion. The only way thier opinions would change is if god came and performed alot of miracles that wouldn't be possible without being "god". Everybody has the right to belive what they want and not be the target of right wing christians whos goal is to convert the "non-belivers". Although as a catholic i agree with whats in your sig and don't belive life could happen by chance but there is no need to try and convert people from thier beliefs to yours, you should have been banned along time ago simply for being annoying.

Dead13 · 09-27-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
Voltaire said something like this a few hundred years ago. Religion is still here. Religion will always be here.

I thought Voltron was the defender of the Universe?

"VOLTRON! A real American Hero!"

codymc12 · 09-27-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
That's just the useless shit that has been posted to bump my thread back up so that people continue to see my point.

It's all part of the game of GFY.

Sure, I know.

My point is that what followed and what it turned into was inevitable, and will be cyclically endless until people get tired of typing.

Look at me - I rarely post, but here I am, stuck in the flytrap....

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster
There is some evidence which suggests that consciousness is independent of the brain. If this evidence is valid, it suggests that at least some part of us survives the grave. This question is independent of the qwuestion of whether or not there is a God.

There is also evidence of Alien aircraft, Easter Bunny eggs, & Tooth Fairy money.

There is more evidence to support the theory of aliens than the theory of any God. The only reason that more people believe in God over aliens is that God instills fear based on a book written by MAN.

Even Merlin could not wave his hand and turn water into wine.

Scientifically speaking...There is evidence that suggests that no man can walk on water.

And don't even get me started about people talking to burning bushes....Sounds to me like somebody smoked a little too much pot.

AaronM · 09-27-2004, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
Sure, I know.

My point is that what followed and what it turned into was inevitable, and will be cyclically endless until people get tired of typing.

Look at me - I rarely post, but here I am, stuck in the flytrap....

09-27-2004, 10:17 PM	#67
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Who created the creator? That's the dude I wanna meet. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

09-27-2004, 10:21 PM	#73
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	Freezing the head is around $75k and whole body is about $130k. Unless they raised the prices a little. I plan on freezing my entire body incase they're not able to reattach brain stem. I've seen the video where they did the successful head transplant from one chimp to another chimp body. However he was alive and kickin, but was paraplegic. Apparetnly all of the fibers of the brainstem are the same color so you can't match them up exactly to the correct one. But as science advances, I'm sure they'll figure something out. __________________ ...

09-27-2004, 10:23 PM	#75
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	Actually my prices were incorrect. Here's the details and form of payment is through life insurance. First, the death benefit must be no less than our minimum requirement, which is currently $50,000 for neuropatients and $120,000 for wholebody patients. (Members who choose the neuropatient option will receive cryopreservation only of the head and brain, in expectation that tissue regeneration will replace the body.) An additional $25,000 surcharge is applied for international applicants ($15,000 for residents of the United Kingdom, no surcharge for residents of Canada). __________________ ...

09-27-2004, 10:33 PM	#89
sarettah see you later, I'm gone Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,121	What does it matter ? Whatever happens, happens. IMO you cannot prepare for the total unknown. It is better (again imo, don't want to get accused of "knowing" again) to make sure to live your life right rigt now then to worry about what may or may not happen in an unknown future. __________________ All cookies cleared!

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Evil1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,893	hey boobmaster.. question.. when god kills a newborn baby (fire/stillborn/car accident leaving the hospital/whatever) the baby's innocent right... he/she goes to heaven. Well who the fuck feeds this baby, gets up at 3 am to feed it, changes it's little angelic diapers? Is there a day care center up there or something? why would god let a baby die.. tell me something other then "it's gods plan".. it's a fucking baby, never sinned, hell still borns never even get the opportunity to piss on their parents during a diaper change... thats how innocent they are. Is that the god you're so in love with? seems like a real prick to me. __________________

09-27-2004, 10:05 PM	#53
crowkid o.g. spammer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,240	Aaron, what if I choose not to believe in your "fairy tales" of big booms and big bangs and all this randomness putting together an entire universe where everything works as a machine perfectly? To believe its all by chance, how perfect everything in this universe is (besides people like you) , is silly to me. Whens the last time an explosion created something? Anyone have any proof this has EVER happened. I understand though, we work in porn, we don't want to have to answer to a higher power for our actions. You just want to do what you want and not pay for it, I understand, I'm wrestling with that myself currently

09-27-2004, 10:24 PM	#77
codymc12 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 719	As usual, this is an unwinnable arguement either way. It will never resolved, only be debated infinitely. Why? Because the conundrum is that both sides are fanatical about their views. By both sides, I mean The believer and the atheist (used for comparison, I know some said agnostic). Both sides also feel, deeply, that the other's view is wrong, or even silly. And neither will be swayed, with rare exceptions, ever. But it does make for interesting conversation.

09-27-2004, 10:37 PM	#96
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	You really should quit pushing your beliefs onto other people boobmaster, i guess you don't relize that no matter what you say or do you can't change thier opinion. The only way thier opinions would change is if god came and performed alot of miracles that wouldn't be possible without being "god". Everybody has the right to belive what they want and not be the target of right wing christians whos goal is to convert the "non-belivers". Although as a catholic i agree with whats in your sig and don't belive life could happen by chance but there is no need to try and convert people from thier beliefs to yours, you should have been banned along time ago simply for being annoying.