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Old 09-27-2004, 08:11 AM   #1
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Importance for us in the adult biz that bush does not get a second term

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I for sure don't want flip flop John Kerry as our president
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Hope you enjoy working for 5 bucks an hour again
That or sitting in Iraq after you have been drafted.
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if your business is only as safe as the person in office... then you either suck at business or don't have enough to lose to worry about.

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if your business is only as safe as the person in office... then you either suck at business or don't have enough to lose to worry about.

You dont remember the people that went to jail or lost everything during the Reagan years , how Adam and Eve spent 1 million dollars fighting in court. Please dont speak about things, that you have no idea what you are talking about.
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okay, after reading the article, what is it you fear? You won't be able to marry your gay lover?
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I for sure don't want flip flop John Kerry as our president
vote for what affects you and the industry your in.. your going to bitch a few months from now when Bush changes the playing field and your wondering "why the hell didnt I listen to GFY when they warned me about Bush" when your filling out your MacDonalds resume.

Dont vote because your mom and dad wont let you stay in the basement anymore if you vote against Bush - maybe they are - but please dont tell me your that disillusioned to beleive the industry and america as a whole is better off with Bush?? Or are you??
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okay, after reading the article, what is it you fear? You won't be able to marry your gay lover?
when you go to adult conventions or read industry articles- are you still that stubborn and pigheaded to not see how Bush is going to fuck up your life??
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You dont remember the people that went to jail or lost everything during the Reagan years , how Adam and Eve spent 1 million dollars fighting in court. Please dont speak about things, that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Well... i have been around as long as most and make a lot of money in this biz. It does not matter who is in office, the risk is always there. Just as many prosecutions happened under Clinton as in any other time. Instead of trying to change the government of the United States to protect your porn business and not go to prison... maybe your time might be better spent on organizing your affairs and structuring your business in such a way that you will never be a target.

Its what any intelligent and serious business owner would do.


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okay, after reading the article, what is it you fear? You won't be able to marry your gay lover?
Conservative judges do not like porn....period.
The stuff that happened in the 80's can happen again. Poeple will lose all assets deemed ill gotten gains and go to jail.
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Well... i have been around as long as most and make a lot of money in this biz. It does not matter who is in office, the risk is always there. Just as many prosecutions happened under Clinton as in any other time. Instead of trying to change the government of the United States to protect your porn business and not go to prison... maybe your time might be better spent on organizing your affairs and structuring your business in such a way that you will never be a target.

Its what any intelligent and serious business owner would do.

Actually no adult porn prosecutions happened under clinton ,thats why porn grew so big during his admin .Janet Reno other then going after CP saw going after adult porn as a waste of resources. Once again you dont know what you are talking about.
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Conservative judges do not like porn....period.
The stuff that happened in the 80's can happen again. Poeple will lose all assets deemed ill gotten gains and go to jail.
Thank god people like baddog are in the minority and that recent medical strides have produced drugs to stop people who are disillusioned and have suicidal tendencies when it comes to politics and the job they do. Perhaps hes just tired of working in porn and subconsciencely wants to get out by voting Bush.
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The libertarian party doesn't have a hardon for online porn, or censorship.

Change can only come if people do different things. Electing one of TWO idiots is not different at all.

Think, support and vote outside the box.
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if your business is only as safe as the person in office... then you either suck at business or don't have enough to lose to worry about.

ok...would losing say 80% of your revenue be a good business event for you.
I dont know how diversified your business is but I would be wiling to bet that more than 70% of your business comes from surfers (directly or indirectly) who are using credit cards to access adult content.
So lets remove that portion of your biz...sound good?
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Actually no adult porn prosecutions happened under clinton
Part of Clintons election platform was the promise to crack down on porn you dumb ass. But you are right... less happened under his administration than Reagans. And... so what?

As i was saying... if you are going to live your life and run your business wondering when you will get arrested and thrown in jail, wondering who will finally enforce what existing obscenity laws and when the prosecutor of Sisterfucker, Kentucky is finally going to come after you for allowing people in his home town to see your site.. thats your business. You can worry about the things you can't change... or as any prudent business person would do, you can focus on the things you can change, structure your business and financial affairs appropriately and sleep well regardless of who is President of The United States of America or regardless of who is trying to court the vote of the Christian Right.
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ok...would losing say 80% of your revenue be a good business event for you.
I dont know how diversified your business is but I would be wiling to bet that more than 70% of your business comes from surfers (directly or indirectly) who are using credit cards to access adult content.
So lets remove that portion of your biz...sound good?
Are you serious? If you hate Bush... say you hate Bush. Don't make stupid remarks as an afterthought to try to validate your contempt for Bush.

You think that people in the USA will no longer PAY for porn if Bush is President?

Thats a little insane and shortsighted.
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when you go to adult conventions or read industry articles- are you still that stubborn and pigheaded to not see how Bush is going to fuck up your life??
you know, for a Canadian you sure seem to have our politics all figured out.

you have any idea how many of our Supreme Court judges were appointed by Republicans?
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The stuff that happened in the 80's can happen again. Poeple will lose all assets deemed ill gotten gains and go to jail.
again, do you know who has appointed our current Supreme Court bench?
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I for sure don't want flip flop John Kerry as our president
This flip flop response is really starting to piss me off. It's not flip flopping if information changes. You have to change your position to survive. Just like in business, if you don't adapt to the changing winds, you go under.

He voted for the authority to threaten war on Saddam to get him to comply with the inspections, not to pre-emptively strike Iraq.

He voted for the money for the troops and then when they attached all kinds of pork barrel riders, including HUGE no bid contracts for Halliburton, he voted against it.

I wish that Bush would change his mind and see that he's running our country headlong into a quagmire we can't get out of!
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Thank god people like baddog are in the minority and that recent medical strides have produced drugs to stop people who are disillusioned and have suicidal tendencies when it comes to politics and the job they do. Perhaps hes just tired of working in porn and subconsciencely wants to get out by voting Bush.
First off, I am not voting for Bush. Secondly, as a Canadian, why do you care what Bush does to porn (if he were to do anything at all)?
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Pick the lesser of two evils. And Kerry is the lesser evil of the two.
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structure your business and financial affairs appropriately and sleep well regardless of who is President of The United States of America or regardless of who is trying to court the vote of the Christian Right.
The point your missing here is regardless of how you structure your existing adult business it CAN and if the current administration gets it way WILL most likely be deemed obscene.

The way they are currently laying this attack out is leaving the courts to deem what is obscene. That photo shopped blur over the private parts on a tour can still be deemed obscene. That girls nipples could be deemed obscene. With the religous fanatics in office, and on the stand in our courtrooms we will be in deep shit.

Of course Kerry could turn out just as bad. Who the hell knows. But the current Bush train will be stoped. The aggressive momentum they have now will he haulted. Anything to buy us time to fight back I will take. This industry has been hammered over the past 4 years. If Reverend Bush gets another 4 years it may not exist for those of us in the US.
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Are you serious? If you hate Bush... say you hate Bush. Don't make stupid remarks as an afterthought to try to validate your contempt for Bush.

You think that people in the USA will no longer PAY for porn if Bush is President?

Thats a little insane and shortsighted.
I think they are trying to imply that Bush won't allow CC companies to process porn transactions
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Supreme court justices are nominated by presidents. They must pass an approval process.

7 of the 9 current justices were nominated by republican presidents.

4 were nominated by Reagan.

2 of the largest adult internet sites were targeted by the FCC during the Clinton years.
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The point your missing here is regardless of how you structure your existing adult business it CAN and if the current administration gets it way WILL most likely be deemed obscene.

The way they are currently laying this attack out is leaving the courts to deem what is obscene. That photo shopped blur over the private parts on a tour can still be deemed obscene. That girls nipples could be deemed obscene. With the religous fanatics in office, and on the stand in our courtrooms we will be in deep shit.

Of course Kerry could turn out just as bad. Who the hell knows. But the current Bush train will be stoped. The aggressive momentum they have now will he haulted. Anything to buy us time to fight back I will take. This industry has been hammered over the past 4 years. If Reverend Bush gets another 4 years it may not exist for those of us in the US.
you know, some people will base someone's intelligence on their ability to spell, and some of your comments, combined with your terrible spelling seem to confirm that theory
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Supreme court justices are nominated by presidents. They must pass an approval process.

7 of the 9 current justices were nominated by republican presidents.

4 were nominated by Reagan.

2 of the largest adult internet sites were targeted by the FCC during the Clinton years.
no fair, I wanted a Canadian to look it up and answer it
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I think they are trying to imply that Bush won't allow CC companies to process porn transactions
neither was i. i guess we both agree that people will continue to pay for porn. if people will always continue to pay for porn, then the rest... where your server is, where you are incorporated and in what jurisdiction, are all just "details"
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no fair, I wanted a Canadian to look it up and answer it
I'm impatient and didn't want to wait several months
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you know, some people will base someone's intelligence on their ability to spell, and some of your comments, combined with your terrible spelling seem to confirm that theory

Oh I am so sorry. No rebuttal so you have to act like the grammar police. I am busy making money right now so I just replied to one of your comments without double checking my 3 yes 3 spelling errors.

You can attack my intelligence based on some small grammatical errors and some views you don't agree on however that does show the true person you are.
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Oh I am so sorry. No rebuttal so you have to act like the grammar police. I am busy making money right now so I just replied to one of your comments without double checking my 3 yes 3 spelling errors.

You can attack my intelligence based on some small grammatical errors and some views you don't agree on however that does show the true person you are.
See, there you go. I was not criticizing the spelling as much as I was some of the thoughts you put up. Comments like, "That photo shopped blur over the private parts on a tour can still be deemed obscene. That girls nipples could be deemed obscene. With the religous fanatics in office, and on the stand in our courtrooms we will be in deep shit." appeared to be unintelligent.

Those that judge intelligence by a person's ability to convey a thought with proper spelling might use that as an excellent example.
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um, I hate to break it to the rabble but ALL of the larger businesses are praying for a crack down so they can move in and clean up.
We don't all work out of our bedrooms and fear the government.
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See, there you go. I was not criticizing the spelling as much as I was some of the thoughts you put up. Comments like, "That photo shopped blur over the private parts on a tour can still be deemed obscene. That girls nipples could be deemed obscene. With the religous fanatics in office, and on the stand in our courtrooms we will be in deep shit." appeared to be unintelligent.

Those that judge intelligence by a person's ability to convey a thought with proper spelling might use that as an excellent example.

What are you having a hard time comprehending? I was making a point that the judges will have the power of saying what is obscene and not obscene in individual cases. What we may think is not obscene (something as simple as a nipple showing) may still be deemed obscene by the judge. This is the way things are heading under the current administration.

This is a message board. I use it as a brain dump. Honestly I could give a fuck how you or anyone else judges my intelligence based on my postings here.
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What are you having a hard time comprehending? I was making a point that the judges will have the power of saying what is obscene and not obscene in individual cases. What we may think is not obscene (something as simple as a nipple showing) may still be deemed obscene by the judge. This is the way things are heading under the current administration.

This is a message board. I use it as a brain dump. Honestly I could give a fuck how you or anyone else judges my intelligence based on my postings here.
This opinion is about as accurate as the one that "the current Bush train will be stoped. The aggressive momentum they have now will he haulted."

Wishful thinking on your part I would say.
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Wishful thinking on your part I would say.
Yes I can be optimistic like that.
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Old 09-27-2004, 10:37 AM   #42
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um, I hate to break it to the rabble but ALL of the larger businesses are praying for a crack down so they can move in and clean up.
We don't all work out of our bedrooms and fear the government.
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