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monro · 09-26-2004, 04:18 AM

Al-taqiyya

Al-taqiyya and dissimulation are words used for a practice of Muslims blatantly lying to non-Muslims. All but some of the most fundamental Muslims consider the act of Al-taqiyya or lying to non-Muslims to be a good work. This is very important when one remembers that, in Islam, salvation is determined by good works. This means that a Muslim lying to a non-Muslim is that Muslim doing a good work to earn salvation. It is almost equivalent to a Christian accepting Jesus as his savior. One of the big differences is that a Christian only needs to accept Jesus as his savior once to become saved forever but a Muslim must do his good works consistently and repeatedly to earn his salvation with the except of the greatest work of dying while fighting non-Muslims.

This is particularly important when one realizes that the only work which can guarantee salvation for a Muslim is to wage war against and kill non-Muslims or at least support those who do wage war against and kill non-Muslims. It is only logical that to lie in support of a war against non-Muslims could guarantee salvation for a Muslim because it would be considered supporting the war. This is a very powerful motivation for any Muslim to lie to any non-Muslim for any reason but especially when concerning any war or military effort against non-Muslims.

I have learned that, for this reason, it is very common practice for Muslims, especially leaders, to lie about the war against non-Muslims. These lies come in many forms such as denying that Islam is a war against non-Muslims, that the Koran teaches salvation through fighting and killing non-Muslims, feigning sympathy for the US concerning 9/11, or Muslim countries denying that they have military intentions against Israel, the US, or other non-Muslim countries.

This raises a number or questions. Are the Muslim peace protestors in the US actually using Al-taqiyya or dissimulation to earn their salvation by lying and trying to interfere with the US and Israel's efforts to defend themselves? Is the Muslim sympathy for the US concerning 9/11 Al-taqiyya earning the salvation of the Muslims by feigning sympathy for the US? Are the Muslim leaders and official speakers using Al-taqiyya to earn salvation by lying to the US media about them fighting because they are "being oppressed by Israel" when there are plenty of Muslims who are citizens in Israel, have good jobs, have their own prosperous businesses, who vote, and are even in the Israeli government?

I recently watched a ABC 20/20 news show by Barbara Walters where she went to Saudi Arabia to confront different people there about text which had been uncovered in public school books which taught hatred and murder of non-Muslims but specifically Jews. I watched as every Muslim male and almost every Muslim female she sat down with to interview blatantly lied about what the Koran says concerning war, hatred, and murdering towards the Jews. Not one of them told the truth. This was clearly Al-taqiyya.

uchase/webpry · 09-26-2004, 04:21 AM

... you seriously think I've got time to read that?

Nydahl · 09-26-2004, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... you seriously think I've got time to read that?

exactly

BRISK · 09-26-2004, 04:41 AM

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Webby · 09-26-2004, 05:41 AM

Hell.. nasty people these Muslims!

Now.. back to your own back yard..... sounds like we got stuff in common...

Libertine · 09-26-2004, 07:02 AM

The basic idea behind al-Taqiyya is that it is permissible to lie about one's faith to non-muslims when one's life is in jeopardy. If some redneck holds a gun to a muslim's head, and asks him, "Are you a muslim?", the muslim is allowed to say "Hell no!" in order to save his life, as long as his actual beliefs remain unshaken.

Fake Nick · 09-26-2004, 07:04 AM

god is a hippie and so is allah

mardigras · 09-26-2004, 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
god is a hippie and so is allah

It's hard to believe you have only 942 posts. I must have landed on every one of 'em

michel · 09-26-2004, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
The basic idea behind al-Taqiyya is that it is permissible to lie about one's faith to non-muslims when one's life is in jeopardy. If some redneck holds a gun to a muslim's head, and asks him, "Are you a muslim?", the muslim is allowed to say "Hell no!" in order to save his life, as long as his actual beliefs remain unshaken.

A muslim is also allowed to eat pigmeat, in case of not eating it would mean dying of starvation.

09-26-2004, 04:18 AM	#1
monro So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 787	Lying Muslims Al-taqiyya Al-taqiyya and dissimulation are words used for a practice of Muslims blatantly lying to non-Muslims. All but some of the most fundamental Muslims consider the act of Al-taqiyya or lying to non-Muslims to be a good work. This is very important when one remembers that, in Islam, salvation is determined by good works. This means that a Muslim lying to a non-Muslim is that Muslim doing a good work to earn salvation. It is almost equivalent to a Christian accepting Jesus as his savior. One of the big differences is that a Christian only needs to accept Jesus as his savior once to become saved forever but a Muslim must do his good works consistently and repeatedly to earn his salvation with the except of the greatest work of dying while fighting non-Muslims. This is particularly important when one realizes that the only work which can guarantee salvation for a Muslim is to wage war against and kill non-Muslims or at least support those who do wage war against and kill non-Muslims. It is only logical that to lie in support of a war against non-Muslims could guarantee salvation for a Muslim because it would be considered supporting the war. This is a very powerful motivation for any Muslim to lie to any non-Muslim for any reason but especially when concerning any war or military effort against non-Muslims. I have learned that, for this reason, it is very common practice for Muslims, especially leaders, to lie about the war against non-Muslims. These lies come in many forms such as denying that Islam is a war against non-Muslims, that the Koran teaches salvation through fighting and killing non-Muslims, feigning sympathy for the US concerning 9/11, or Muslim countries denying that they have military intentions against Israel, the US, or other non-Muslim countries. This raises a number or questions. Are the Muslim peace protestors in the US actually using Al-taqiyya or dissimulation to earn their salvation by lying and trying to interfere with the US and Israel's efforts to defend themselves? Is the Muslim sympathy for the US concerning 9/11 Al-taqiyya earning the salvation of the Muslims by feigning sympathy for the US? Are the Muslim leaders and official speakers using Al-taqiyya to earn salvation by lying to the US media about them fighting because they are "being oppressed by Israel" when there are plenty of Muslims who are citizens in Israel, have good jobs, have their own prosperous businesses, who vote, and are even in the Israeli government? I recently watched a ABC 20/20 news show by Barbara Walters where she went to Saudi Arabia to confront different people there about text which had been uncovered in public school books which taught hatred and murder of non-Muslims but specifically Jews. I watched as every Muslim male and almost every Muslim female she sat down with to interview blatantly lied about what the Koran says concerning war, hatred, and murdering towards the Jews. Not one of them told the truth. This was clearly Al-taqiyya.

09-26-2004, 04:41 AM	#4
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09-26-2004, 07:02 AM	#6
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	The basic idea behind al-Taqiyya is that it is permissible to lie about one's faith to non-muslims when one's life is in jeopardy. If some redneck holds a gun to a muslim's head, and asks him, "Are you a muslim?", the muslim is allowed to say "Hell no!" in order to save his life, as long as his actual beliefs remain unshaken. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

09-26-2004, 04:21 AM	#2
uchase/webpry So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Do you use sex.com's XML feed, try ours and make double the money. Posts: 2,085	... you seriously think I've got time to read that?

09-26-2004, 05:41 AM	#5
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Hell.. nasty people these Muslims! Now.. back to your own back yard..... sounds like we got stuff in common...

09-26-2004, 07:04 AM	#7
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