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Chris

405k this year now ?

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WiredGuy

This latest Google update has screwed me bigtime. Never had so many domains banned so quickly. And a lot of the stuff on these domains is not even spammy, go figure. I'm going after Yahoo from now on, Google is giving me ulcer's seeing my joins going up and down so quickly.

WG

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FuckFind

seems like lots will be doing the same. catering to something as unpredictable and (recently) as shitty in terms of accuracy in the serps will turn a lot of googlers off from optimizing strictly towards them, imo anyway.

FF

WiredGuy

On the other hand, I think I've nearly perfected the process on how to ban a domain from Google. I should make this a service, if you're #11, I'll get domains 1-10 banned for you

WG

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evildick

Ugh. I don't like the sounds of that.

stocktrader23

gangsta

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gornyhuy

No PR update though, right?
I saw new backlinks, new listings, but no PR updates.

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Spunky

About the same pagerank,I can never seem to get to 8 ...looking good Jay

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TheJimmy

I'm sure that's already being done...been done, gonna get done, etc...lot of jackasses out there...

:/


I think it's called Deep-Blue Hat

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WiredGuy

I went from PR6 to banned, does that count?
WG

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PrivateIvy

It was good to me too for some new sites and for getting a couple back on the first page under keywords that somehow had fallen off .....glad to see a little bit of time paid off

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gornyhuy

Oh the bitterness and rage!

Time for you to start

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WiredGuy

Got a bottle of greygoose at the office for just that. Either a great week or a horrible week. This is the latter.
WG

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KCat

Nice job, babe!

But you know these kind of posts are only gonna fan the XXX-Bill's & XXX-Jimbo's flames. *wink*

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xxxjay

The yahoo traffic is way better than the Google. Yahoo is still #1 on Alexa, while Google is at #4. The Yahoo SERPS do suck and there seems to be no rhyme nor reason to how the results are ranked. Try a few searches for information and you will see for yourself. People searching will begin to pick up on this and I predict the Yahoo search traffic will drop off, though it will remain a top desination as an internet portal.

It's really all in the language...you will never hear anyone say:

"I'm gonna' Yahoo it..."

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stocktrader23

Eh, yahoo will always have tons of search traffic because sometimes lazy fuckers like me would rather just type it in from the page they are on. Yahoo has millions and millions of registered viewers, I don't see their searches going down at all.

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crockett

I kinda think the best approach is to slide under the radar with 2 and 3rd page rankings

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xxxjay

Want to put a friendly wager on that?

A couple years ago you couldn't have told me that Excite would one day be irrelivant. Remember Lycos? Infoseek?

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stocktrader23

Yeah, I remember man. Yahoo is a different breed though. Google is my homepage but if I'm already on a yahoo page I'm gonna use their search to see what's up. I imagine they are working on their algo too. ;)

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SEObot

I got about 50 more back links on one site still no pr and 20 or so on another not to bad!

stocktrader23

BTW, Yahoo seems to love backlink text right now. If google has bombs yahoo has nuclear warheads.

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cali_22

wow jay nice work

daveylapoo

Nice work Jay. I thought I noticed an increase in traffic yesterday.

Manowar

nice work man

xxxjay

I'm sure that they are working on their algo - they have years to catch up with the google technology.

When Microsoft does thier own index - that should be interesting.

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SomeCreep

Sorry to hear that, better luck next update. Remember, theres always PPC!

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SomeCreep

Congrats Jay

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Nader

I even noticed that your rank #1 on Clits keyword...Hit me up man...We have a clit site for you to promote...and many more Micro Niches...I'm in Burbank california we should talk and hang out sometime hit me up

Doctor Dre

ROFL ... poor guys

Blackhat all the way :P

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Doctor Dre

Actually m$ and ibm are both comming out with new search technology sooner or later ... we'll see :P

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Doctor Dre

altavista ? the biggest search engine back then ? lol

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Doctor Dre

Anyways I'm off to sleep . Congrats jay ... great improvement . Keep up the good work

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kenny

I lost all my SE traffic during the course of six months.

I had to convert to Ghetto tactics to pay off my credit cards..

Does anybody here want a eightball?

wm_cibi

PR5(2500+ backlinks) > PR0 (ban)

thx google

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Keyword: web hosting URL Pattern: www.dwhswebhosting.com
Position 184. DWHS Web Hosting - The leader in advanced web hosting services
Full url: http://www.dwhswebhosting.com/
Check Google?


I can't break into the hundred for the term web hosting, it's killing me.

swami

I think this update is more a rollback to the early august serps.
Don't count on these serps staying and it wouldn't surprise me if the sites that you think are banned will return.
it seems to me that goole are tweaking their algo once a month again.If I am right,the sites that jumped up with this update may suffer the next one.

swami

Get rid of some of your meta tags and don't overdo the word "web hosting'
target some synomyns such as "webhosting" and "website hosts" and adult web hosting".
Creat a page of text explaining the benefits and advantages of hosting websites with you and just have one link on it and make it back to your home page with the anchor text "web hosting"

Then pay me to get in the first 20 results for you.$500 month as long as its in the first 20.

chaze

Seriously if you could get me in the top 20 I would pay $500 a month in a heart beat.

Thanks for the tips.

swami

OK I take this as a formal contract.Do as I suggest and if you have any enquiries email here(see sig).
At the moment google is a bit slow to react to seo but with my work behind the scenes you will see an improvement in 2 months and by 3 - 4 months I am confident you will be there.
I will then need the $500 in advance to keep you there.
p.s. I see you already have a page specifically about what I suggested http://www.dwhswebhosting.com/start-a-web-site.htm .just remove all links from that page except the one to the home page with the anchor text 'web hosting"

chaze

Formal

I got your contact information so I will contact you next week to see if we can do a project together. I am always looking for extra help and $500 a month is reasoble expecially if we can get to the top 20.

I also would throw http://www.adult-website-hosting.com in the mix since it's dropped off of adult web hosting and adult hosting.

Talk to you soon,

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WiredGuy

I've noticed that, I split my traffic a while ago with some subaccounts tracking to see which engines do better and was rather surprised to see that Google was one of my worst converting traffic sources. PPC and Yahoo were right up there as top converting.

WG

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WiredGuy

Yup, thank god for it too or I'd be really screwed
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WiredGuy

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WiredGuy

I'd love to see that. It would make sense, the set of domains that are supposedly banned were just bought in late August and activated early September. Hopefully they'll come back!

WG

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stocktrader23

Google traffic has been consistently shitty for me as well. Yahoo beats them by a mile.

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xxxjay

Wired Guy - I know you don't like to give out anything, but if you were to guess - why would you think they banned those domains? Usually you have to overstep pretty far.

I haven't lost a domain since SEGuru had that spidertrap back 5 years ago.

I'm pretty whitehat though.

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WiredGuy

Remember that script I told you about in Phoenix that got me that #1 ranking. Well, I stepped it up a notch or two

It shouldn't have gotten me banned though since I modified it to spread the PR over several pages so I wouldn't be #1 on all the keywords but rather just sit in the top 10 among different keywords. As you can expect this was a blackhat script

WG

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xxxjay

It probably triggered some kind of filter when the bots came. I used to be a big cloaker for my former employer, but it was very feast or famine. It would be a pain in the ass - just as you think you have it tweaked - that's when they will get you.

That's why I chose the direction for my own stuff that I have now, but - then again - I'm not nearly as smart as you.

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