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Old 09-24-2004, 01:07 PM   #1
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What Kerry is doing lately is dangerous for America

Both sides are guilty of paritsan crap, but think about this. It's vitally important for our image around the world that things look like they're going well in Iraq, and that we are freeing the Iraqis. This is important for our national security and terrorists not being recruited, etc.

You have the Prime Minister of Iraq saying things are going well, and you have John Kerry saying that he is full of shit, basically. What good can come from this except for pushing his own presidential agenda? Does he even want America to look good in the world, or does he just want to win the election?
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:10 PM   #2
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And you just automatically assume the world believes the Bush lies?
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:11 PM   #3
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If John Kerry starts saying everything in Iraq is good, the whole world will wonder even more why everyone in the US thinks like that.
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:11 PM   #4
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you can only fool the fools at home

outside the US there are options ofr real news broadcasts

Kerry is speaking to the world...no one listens to Bush

Do youthinkyou can just pull the wool over the eyes of other world leaders? lol

clean up the bush mess now..or say goodbye to america as you know it
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:13 PM   #5
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I just don't think there is as much mess as everyone rants about. Most Americans have a much greater standard of living as the rest of the world. The real danger imho is every time we have an election 48-49, 50-49, 48-47, scary we are so divided as a nation!
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:13 PM   #6
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I love the fact Bush has to ask yhe U.N. For assistance in iraq.. When he started this war he would so it with or without U.N. help.. Lol until he relizes what a clusterfuck hes made and how much its costing his countrie... fucking idiot.. look before you leap
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Yeah, okay then I'll be going to Iraq on vacation. It's not like there are any kidnappings and bombs blowing up on the streets
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It's not dangerous at all.
He's standing up for waht he belives and speaking his mind. YOu honestly think that everyone else around the world thinks that we're doing great things over there?
Come on.
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:27 PM   #10
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It's dangerous for America to have people questioning their leaders when they're lying.

Kids these days.
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Old 09-24-2004, 01:32 PM   #11
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you can only fool the fools at home

outside the US there are options ofr real news broadcasts

Kerry is speaking to the world...no one listens to Bush

Do youthinkyou can just pull the wool over the eyes of other world leaders? lol

clean up the bush mess now..or say goodbye to america as you know it
1. Americans have access to almost all major international media.

2. Kerry's obviously attention whoring for votes and I'd expect nothing less from a presiential candidate. Make headlines as much as possible. No publicity is bad publicity. At this point, Kerry's only official position is to bad mouth Bush as often as possible. This is the only thing endearing him to the "anybody but Bush" crowd right now, but it's turning off to the undecideds.
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It's dangerous for America to have people questioning their leaders when they're lying.

Kids these days.
I know.
When did it become wrong to question our leaders in America? This country that is supposed to be so free.
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The world, especially those people in the middle east, already know exactly what the situation is Iraq is like - without Kerry having to tell them. Iraqis are going to take up arms against us because we bombed their house and killed their brother - not because of our election debate. It is Americans who (mostly) do not understand what Bush has actually done; given Iraq back to the islamic clerics... turned millions of moderate muslims around the world who formerly held a favorable view of the USA against us... recruited hundreds of thousands of jihad fighters...



50% of America has been fooled by Bushs sermons and (unfortunately) it is up to Kerry to educate them before the election, or else the world will no longer draw a distinction between the american people and the lunatic leadership we've been living under for the past 4 years; if americans are seen as approving of this administration, we're all really fucked.
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You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

Tho.. it's amazing how fooled some can be - utterly unfucking believable!

I very seriously wish US folks would tell some of their "leaders" to shut the fuck up and grab back their country and be aware what is happening both in the US and worldwide.
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So cancel the elections !!!!

That will show THEM what FREEDOM is ....

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And you just automatically assume the world believes the Bush lies?

exactly!


let's not stay so unidirectional in observations....


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Both sides are guilty of paritsan crap, but think about this. It's vitally important for our image around the world that things look like they're going well in Iraq, and that we are freeing the Iraqis. This is important for our national security and terrorists not being recruited, etc.

You have the Prime Minister of Iraq saying things are going well, and you have John Kerry saying that he is full of shit, basically. What good can come from this except for pushing his own presidential agenda? Does he even want America to look good in the world, or does he just want to win the election?
That's the left wing way, win at any cost. Undermine the troops? kerry and his buds in the media are experts.

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Things are not going well in Iraq, anyone who says so is trying to protect financial interests over there.

It is going to be blow up something every day between now and Jan.
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Everything is going well in Iraq. I assure you that there are no problems.
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Things are not going well in Iraq, anyone who says so is trying to protect financial interests over there.
Not going well ...

This is an understament ...

Watch in a few minutes on CNN " Cooper " , he has an interview with a female hostage that was released...

She says that it is the Iraqi police that delivered her to the " insurgents", that the population was feeding and giving water to the " insurgents", that kids were alternating to guard her: in other words, the population is supporrting the " insurgents" and HATES americans...

Amazing how you can fuck up so badly!
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Both sides are guilty of paritsan crap, but think about this. It's vitally important for our image around the world that things look like they're going well in Iraq, and that we are freeing the Iraqis. This is important for our national security and terrorists not being recruited, etc.

You have the Prime Minister of Iraq saying things are going well, and you have John Kerry saying that he is full of shit, basically. What good can come from this except for pushing his own presidential agenda? Does he even want America to look good in the world, or does he just want to win the election?
is it vitally important that things "look" like they are going well or that they are actually going well? methinks it is the latter. which would make us in deep shit no matter what kerry is saying.

bush and his cronies continue to lie to the american people and the world. getting up and saying that things are going well in iraq, with the economy, with heathcare, with schools, etc. does NOT make it so. i prefer someone who will tell me the truth, no matter how unpleasant that truth is.

bush is a lying sack of shit. compassionate conservative my ass. he is a right wing, elitist, pompous asshole for whom i can't understand why ANYONE in their right mind would vote. if you had an employee who you knew was a fuckup and you had the opportunity to bring someone else in what would you do:

a) rehire that person whom you know to be incompetent
b) hire someone new

i'll take b. even if the new guy turns out to be just as big of a fuckup... at least i didn't rehire someone i KNOW to be so.
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Both sides are guilty of paritsan crap, but think about this. It's vitally important for our image around the world that things look like they're going well in Iraq, and that we are freeing the Iraqis. This is important for our national security and terrorists not being recruited, etc.

You have the Prime Minister of Iraq saying things are going well, and you have John Kerry saying that he is full of shit, basically. What good can come from this except for pushing his own presidential agenda? Does he even want America to look good in the world, or does he just want to win the election?
see you are the exact problem.. people like you and the Bush cronies worry more about what you think everyone else should think. Instead of dealing with the real problem.

So what you think if Kerry was on TV saying everything was great in Iraq you think the terrorist and the Iraq people would believe him?

lol get real.
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Not going well ...

Amazing how you can fuck up so badly!
I can't believe that we're all just sitting here taking it. I mean where are our other government representatives? We impeached the last president for lying about a blow job! But lying about WMD's and the purpose of the "War on Terror" is okay. As long as Bush doesn't lie about sex!
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lol get real.
Yes, Kerry's big plan to get out of this War is that he's not "Bush" therefore the U.N will flock to help non- George W. Bush guy finish the war in Iraq, like someone else pointed out in another thread they can't even agree on the term "genocide" while thousands of people are dying.

Rumsfield declares today Iraq doesn't need to be peaceful for U.S to withdraw, and then says the day before that there might be "limited" elections, a great day for democracy.

niether of these muppet's need to be in office, I vote "None of the Above [ ]"
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Both sides are guilty of paritsan crap, but think about this. It's vitally important for our image around the world that things look like they're going well in Iraq, and that we are freeing the Iraqis. This is important for our national security and terrorists not being recruited, etc.

You have the Prime Minister of Iraq saying things are going well, and you have John Kerry saying that he is full of shit, basically. What good can come from this except for pushing his own presidential agenda? Does he even want America to look good in the world, or does he just want to win the election?
You have no idea how the rest of the world sees the US now, do you? It's a fucking shame what Bush has done to your country's image. You know, he's the only president in the history of the US to be protested against on a trip to Ireland? The Irish love Americans and have always welcomed visiting presidents with open arms. You know your international image is shit when that happens.

You're living in a fantasy world if you believe the worldwide community thinks Iraq is peachy.
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The amazing thing about Bush is he cannot admit to making a mistake. He acted on bad intelligence when he invaded Iraq. He ignored the voices of caution and believed what was accepted as good intelligence by most world governments.

He was wrong, we were wrong. Admit you made a mistake and look for a honorable way out. Bush cannot admit he was wrong. Therefore he has no legitimacy with anyone in the world to attempt to resove this mess.
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Both sides are guilty of paritsan crap, but think about this. It's vitally important for our image around the world that things look like they're going well in Iraq, and that we are freeing the Iraqis. This is important for our national security and terrorists not being recruited, etc.

You have the Prime Minister of Iraq saying things are going well, and you have John Kerry saying that he is full of shit, basically. What good can come from this except for pushing his own presidential agenda? Does he even want America to look good in the world, or does he just want to win the election?
It's a fucking election, what do you expect?
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There's only one thing Kerry can do to damage America's image in the world: Lose the election.
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Not going well ...

This is an understament ...

Watch in a few minutes on CNN " Cooper " , he has an interview with a female hostage that was released...

She says that it is the Iraqi police that delivered her to the " insurgents", that the population was feeding and giving water to the " insurgents", that kids were alternating to guard her: in other words, the population is supporrting the " insurgents" and HATES americans...

Amazing how you can fuck up so badly!
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Everything is going well in Iraq. I assure you that there are no problems.

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Not going well ...

This is an understament ...

Watch in a few minutes on CNN " Cooper " , he has an interview with a female hostage that was released...

She says that it is the Iraqi police that delivered her to the " insurgents", that the population was feeding and giving water to the " insurgents", that kids were alternating to guard her: in other words, the population is supporrting the " insurgents" and HATES americans...

Amazing how you can fuck up so badly!
Did you also notice the part when she said they made no difference between Canadians and Americans, Christians or Jews.
The people that kidnapped her and her Canadian Christian friend, constantly called the Canadian man an American Jew.

We didn't invade Iraq. Muslim extremists still seem to hate us.
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You're supposed to be 18+ to post on this board. Free us? LMFAO. Who the fuck is free now? The Iraqis are free, well unless they want to watch Al Jazeera.

Lensman really needs to do some house cleaning.

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You're supposed to be 18+ to post on this board. Free us? LMFAO. Who the fuck is free now? The Iraqis are free, well unless they want to watch Al Jazeera.

Lensman really needs to do some house cleaning.
He should clean you while he's at it

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who gives a fuck about IRAQ, fuck those mutherfuckers.

this is AMERICA, run this country before you try to run another
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Yes, please keep bombing our cities and killing children. We understand why missiles hit homes and cities where people live. We understand the children dying.









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Interesting..sounds like the direction America is going.
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this is AMERICA, run this country before you try to run another
Oh yes, poor America...the most prosperous country on earth where you can accomplish anything if you put your mind to it.

It's just a disaster here for me, working on porn for a living and living on the beach. Why should we care if people are getting tortured and murdered if they aren't Americans?

Get a heart
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Old 09-25-2004, 01:26 AM   #40
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Yes, please keep bombing our cities and killing children. We understand why missiles hit homes and cities where people live. We understand the children dying.[/IMG]
Interesting how you don't post pictures of the mass graves, torture chambers, rape rooms, etc. that Saddam had. How about how his sons would bring schoolgirls to their palaces on field trips just to rape them? And no one could protest or they'd be killed.

Learn a little about Saddam's reign of terror before you go posting pictures of a statistically small (in comparison to what Saddam has done) number of accidental injuries caused by us.

It may surprise you Farenheit 9/11 viewers, but Iraq was not a peaceful kite-flying nation before we took out Saddam's regime

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Interesting how you don't post pictures of the mass graves, torture chambers, rape rooms, etc. that Saddam had. How about how his sons would bring schoolgirls to their palaces on field trips just to rape them? And no one could protest or they'd be killed.

Learn a little about Saddam's reign of terror before you go posting pictures of a statistically small (in comparison to what Saddam has done) number of accidental injuries caused by us.
Do you have pictures of that? If so, please show them doing this stuff.

You know nothing of how many people Saddam has killed. If the number was so high, the United Nations would have been all over him. I don't doubt it was bad, but not what the liars in charge are telling us.

It is easy for people that aren't getting their houses bombed, children killed, etc.. to say "We are helpign these people...and if a few die, that is sometimes the price of freedom". If shit like this happened in America (meaning someone bombing us, etc.., the attitude would change in a heart beat.

Keep living in your fantasy world. Must be nice to be brain dead and not see things for how they really are.

If you want to know how they really are, take a day and do some reading. http://www.newamericancentury.org/ or http://www.pnac.info/
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It may surprise you Farenheit 9/11 viewers, but Iraq was not a peaceful kite-flying nation before we took out Saddam's regime
Never said it was. But to think this war is to free these people is stupid and shows you are living in a cave. Wake up....start educating yourselve beyond maintstream news.

First I thought this was because of terrorists....now I hear it is for their freedom...what the fuck is it? Someone make up their mind.
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I love the fact Bush has to ask yhe U.N. For assistance in iraq.. When he started this war he would so it with or without U.N. help.. Lol until he relizes what a clusterfuck hes made and how much its costing his countrie... fucking idiot.. look before you leap
Don't talk about the UN! 80% of the members are ruled by dictators and do all they can to stop any country to become a democracy!

For the very first time there will be a free election in Iraq, thanks to Bush!

You can't blame USA for what the muslim murders are doing in Iraq, they do it all over the world to stop the way of living we are used to and like.
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And you just automatically assume the world believes the Bush lies?
No doubt, can nobody think for themselves anymore? This feels like some kind of mass hypnosis..very scary..
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Don't talk about the UN! 80% of the members are ruled by dictators and do all they can to stop any country to become a democracy!

For the very first time there will be a free election in Iraq, thanks to Bush!

You can't blame USA for what the muslim murders are doing in Iraq, they do it all over the world to stop the way of living we are used to and like.
So is this war to free the people or because of terrorism? I am so confused.
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Ok get out of your country ...

The rest of the world know damn well the fucking Irak is a mess ...

EVERYBODY in the world except americans knows it ... there is no country where Bush is loved except America. EVERYBODY hates him and hates the irak war (wich we all know will turn into a big civil war mess festival like israel)
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If John Kerry starts saying everything in Iraq is good, the whole world will wonder even more why everyone in the US thinks like that.
Couldn't have said better
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I just don't think there is as much mess as everyone rants about. Most Americans have a much greater standard of living as the rest of the world. The real danger imho is every time we have an election 48-49, 50-49, 48-47, scary we are so divided as a nation!
There are many countries where the cost of life is lower and the icome about the same . America is a great country but there are other good ones where you can live without all the politic crap going on right now
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I love the fact Bush has to ask yhe U.N. For assistance in iraq.. When he started this war he would so it with or without U.N. help.. Lol until he relizes what a clusterfuck hes made and how much its costing his countrie... fucking idiot.. look before you leap
And how much more $ is in his pockets
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We should of let Saddam be.

The world needs to know that things like resolutions and what not are not important.

The US needs to be a country of isolation like before WW2. For some reason we changed I forget why
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