EV1 Remote Reboot Maintenance today - GoFuckYourself.com

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 09:00 AM

http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthre...threadid=49111
http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthre...threadid=49039

Pray for a downtime under 15min

I still hate them for forcing that crap on me and I'll keep that in mind.I prepare for the worst case nothing will work/server won't boot up scenario.

Anybody knows a service where my downtime gets measured remotely?I saw some service like that a while ago, I just get a downtime notice but no measurement.

Slinx · 09-24-2004, 09:04 AM

betterbeup

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:09 AM

You are bitching about server maintenance and 15 mins downtime? Wow.

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
You are bitching about server maintenance and 15 mins downtime? Wow.

Costing me traffic and often will end in huge downtimes because of server problems and all that for a service I don't want or need.

Magg · 09-24-2004, 09:13 AM

www.alertra.com

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
Costing me traffic and often will end in huge downtimes because of server problems and all that for a service I don't want or need.

A reboot?

Start bitching if they dont fix it within a hour but bitching because a sheduled maintenance is kinda odd if you ask me.

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:14 AM

There is not one server out there that doesnt need maintenance. Everybody has a downtime every now and then.

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 09:23 AM

They are adding remote reboot-enabled power strips which I don't want or need.

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
They are adding remote reboot-enabled power strips which I don't want or need.

Please negro, youre bitching over a reboot. Welcome to the internet. I bet you will kill yourself when your server will go down for a day. This will happen sooner or later. Better prepare for it.

Is this the first server you ever had?

buran · 09-24-2004, 09:35 AM

I think the poster is whining. If you want your shit up that much, then you should have more than one server with some load balancing in place. From my experience, you're lucky to have gotten any prior notice to an outage.

no offense Battus.

betterbeup.com -- cool idea. Perhaps you should add some request restrictions to status.php, otherwise it becomes easy for someone else to monitor your servers. Nice use of XML, is any of your code open source?

?xml version="1.0" ?><root><general plugin_version="1.4" tts_version="2.1.0" tts_release_date="2003-11-15" tts_install_date="" os="Linux" hostname="betterbeup.com (ns2.eggdns.com)" ip_addr="64.159.65.23" uptime="21503965.26" users="0" mysqld="1" /><network><lo rx_bytes="1465318098" rx_packets="257211667" rx_errs="0" rx_drop="0" tx_bytes="1465318098" tx_packets="257211667" tx_errs="0" tx_drop="0" /><eth0 rx_bytes="3901526569" rx_packets="2868133161" rx_errs="0" rx_drop="0" tx_bytes="1157565421" tx_packets="983402865" tx_errs="0" tx_drop="0" /></network><cpu_info><cpu0 model="Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz" mhz="2660.23" cache="512 KB" bogomips="5308.41" /></cpu_info><loadavg val1="1.66" val5="1.91" val15="1.90" /><memory><ram total="1012676" used="985680" shared="0" buffers="115080" cached="735284" /><swap total="1044208" used="26600" /><devswap><swp0 dev="/dev/sdb2" total="522104" used="26600" /><swp1 dev="/dev/sda2" total="522104" used="0" /></devswap></memory><filesystems><vol0 disk="/dev/md0" size="34756488" used="32350360" mount="/" fstype="ext2" /><vol1 disk="none" size="506336" used="0" mount="/dev/shm" fstype="tmpfs" /></filesystems></root>

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:39 AM

No offense? Why you said that to me?

buran · 09-24-2004, 09:42 AM

Because when I got to the end of the message I didn't want to sound harsh. It's just recent problems with hosting companies put me in a bad mood.

I personally need to get some load balancing in place. Really what I want to do is get hosting in two data centers, and have some wan-balancing so if either of those datacenters goes up in smoke my sites are still live.

So Battus, you don't think you'll use remote reboot? Does your datacenter have 24x7 onsite staff? I've wished that I had remote reboot service on my boxes before. Take care.

b.

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by buran
Because when I got to the end of the message I didn't want to sound harsh. It's just recent problems with hosting companies put me in a bad mood.

I personally need to get some load balancing in place. Really what I want to do is get hosting in two data centers, and have some wan-balancing so if either of those datacenters goes up in smoke my sites are still live.

So Battus, you don't think you'll use remote reboot? Does your datacenter have 24x7 onsite staff? I've wished that I had remote reboot service on my boxes before. Take care.

b.

Dude, youre talking to the wrong person here. Reread the thread.

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
They are adding remote reboot-enabled power strips which I don't want or need.

And why wouldnt you want a remote reboot option? Next month you'll have a problem and need a reboot. You have 2 options. Wait 1 hour for support to reboot for you or do it yourself in 5 mins. I have a feeling you never had a server before.

TheMob · 09-24-2004, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
A reboot?

Start bitching if they dont fix it within a hour but bitching because a sheduled maintenance is kinda odd if you ask me.

indeed.. haven't heard much bad things about ev1.

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Please negro, youre bitching over a reboot. Welcome to the internet. I bet you will kill yourself when your server will go down for a day. This will happen sooner or later. Better prepare for it.

Is this the first server you ever had?

I already had short server downtimes but nothing caused through for me uneccecary upgrades.

I pay for 99.9% uptime and not for downtimes if you didn't get it yet - you can only earn money when your server is up.Especially with trade based TGPs which will loose big traffic after bigger downtimes.

VirtuMike · 09-24-2004, 09:49 AM

We were down at EV1 for WEEKS once.

justsexxx · 09-24-2004, 09:50 AM

Battus, nice service you have at betterbeup. Also as far as the reboots, please let me know when you have rebooted the server.

You have my phone. Also that one server with domain teensex don't need a reboot

Thnx

Andre

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
Battus, nice service you have at betterbeup. Also as far as the reboots, please let me know when you have rebooted the server.

You have my phone. Also that one server with domain teensex don't need a reboot

Thnx

Andre

Ahahaha fag

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
And why wouldnt you want a remote reboot option? Next month you'll have a problem and need a reboot. You have 2 options. Wait 1 hour for support to reboot for you or do it yourself in 5 mins. I have a feeling you never had a server before.

I never have or had problems before that would have brought up the need for a server reboot.

Dirty F · 09-24-2004, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
I already had short server downtimes but nothing caused through for me uneccecary upgrades.

I pay for 99.9% uptime and not for downtimes if you didn't get it yet - you can only earn money when your server is up.Especially with trade based TGPs which will loose big traffic after bigger downtimes.

Uhm ya whatever. Once again, welcome to the internet.

justsexxx · 09-24-2004, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Ahahaha fag

Is that response? Jeez I have seen better support. Hereby I cancel all my servers!

Andre

buran · 09-24-2004, 09:55 AM

oh, yeah, Battus I see, I'm just retarded. the thread is upside down when replying (sneaky!)

(^.^)v

Babaganoosh · 09-24-2004, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johndoebob
I already had short server downtimes but nothing caused through for me uneccecary upgrades.

I pay for 99.9% uptime and not for downtimes if you didn't get it yet - you can only earn money when your server is up.Especially with trade based TGPs which will loose big traffic after bigger downtimes.

Where does EV1 make a guarantee about uptime? They can't do that since the servers are unmanaged. Basically your machine is going to be rebooted today. I doubt you'll even notice.

liquidmoe · 09-24-2004, 10:28 AM

Looks like you have alot of unnecessary worry about the actual reboot. Because you arent mentioning that you are worried the techs will take longer than necessary to install the power strips and rewire your power chord, so I assume you are worried that your server wont come up after a reboot because of some failure or misconfiguration.

Well, thats kinda your fault, because assuming you had your server for a few months you may want to upgrade the OS to plug up any holes that have been discovered and overall tighten things up, guess what you'll need a reboot for that.

So if you are worrying about the server not coming up since EV1 doesnt do much tech support for you, thats on your shoulders, I personally have no worries about rebooting any of my servers because I know their configurations inside and out and because the datacenter is staffed 24/7/365.

Now if you are taking about delays in the physical labor, I can understand that, but hope for the best, there are always unforseen circumstances, but nothing you can do to avoid that, they are in fact providing a valuable service that plenty of their customers will enjoy and EV1 is more about quantity then specific per customer special requests, so go with the flow, or get a host where you pay a bit more but your individual needs are catered to.

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Where does EV1 make a guarantee about uptime? They can't do that since the servers are unmanaged. Basically your machine is going to be rebooted today. I doubt you'll even notice.

I hope so

For the uptime, that goes for the lines not for the server of course, but I never do things that could get my server in the danger of a downtime so it's only the lines that count.

johndoebob · 09-24-2004, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by liquidmoe
Looks like you have alot of unnecessary worry about the actual reboot. Because you arent mentioning that you are worried the techs will take longer than necessary to install the power strips and rewire your power chord, so I assume you are worried that your server wont come up after a reboot because of some failure or misconfiguration.

Well, thats kinda your fault, because assuming you had your server for a few months you may want to upgrade the OS to plug up any holes that have been discovered and overall tighten things up, guess what you'll need a reboot for that.

So if you are worrying about the server not coming up since EV1 doesnt do much tech support for you, thats on your shoulders, I personally have no worries about rebooting any of my servers because I know their configurations inside and out and because the datacenter is staffed 24/7/365.

Now if you are taking about delays in the physical labor, I can understand that, but hope for the best, there are always unforseen circumstances, but nothing you can do to avoid that, they are in fact providing a valuable service that plenty of their customers will enjoy and EV1 is more about quantity then specific per customer special requests, so go with the flow, or get a host where you pay a bit more but your individual needs are catered to.

I never rebooted that server so I don't have a clue how well it will work out, but I had bad experiences before with a server at 1and1 which got rebooted and fucked up.Clean install had to be made again and I had to configure everything again and that took hours.

09-24-2004, 09:00 AM	#1
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	EV1 Remote Reboot Maintenance today http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthre...threadid=49111 http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthre...threadid=49039 Pray for a downtime under 15min I still hate them for forcing that crap on me and I'll keep that in mind.I prepare for the worst case nothing will work/server won't boot up scenario. Anybody knows a service where my downtime gets measured remotely?I saw some service like that a while ago, I just get a downtime notice but no measurement. __________________

09-24-2004, 09:23 AM	#8
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	They are adding remote reboot-enabled power strips which I don't want or need. __________________

09-24-2004, 09:35 AM	#10
buran Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: how'd I get here? Posts: 264	I think the poster is whining. If you want your shit up that much, then you should have more than one server with some load balancing in place. From my experience, you're lucky to have gotten any prior notice to an outage. no offense Battus. betterbeup.com -- cool idea. Perhaps you should add some request restrictions to status.php, otherwise it becomes easy for someone else to monitor your servers. Nice use of XML, is any of your code open source? ?xml version="1.0" ?><root><general plugin_version="1.4" tts_version="2.1.0" tts_release_date="2003-11-15" tts_install_date="" os="Linux" hostname="betterbeup.com (ns2.eggdns.com)" ip_addr="64.159.65.23" uptime="21503965.26" users="0" mysqld="1" /><network><lo rx_bytes="1465318098" rx_packets="257211667" rx_errs="0" rx_drop="0" tx_bytes="1465318098" tx_packets="257211667" tx_errs="0" tx_drop="0" /><eth0 rx_bytes="3901526569" rx_packets="2868133161" rx_errs="0" rx_drop="0" tx_bytes="1157565421" tx_packets="983402865" tx_errs="0" tx_drop="0" /></network><cpu_info><cpu0 model="Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz" mhz="2660.23" cache="512 KB" bogomips="5308.41" /></cpu_info><loadavg val1="1.66" val5="1.91" val15="1.90" /><memory><ram total="1012676" used="985680" shared="0" buffers="115080" cached="735284" /><swap total="1044208" used="26600" /><devswap><swp0 dev="/dev/sdb2" total="522104" used="26600" /><swp1 dev="/dev/sda2" total="522104" used="0" /></devswap></memory><filesystems><vol0 disk="/dev/md0" size="34756488" used="32350360" mount="/" fstype="ext2" /><vol1 disk="none" size="506336" used="0" mount="/dev/shm" fstype="tmpfs" /></filesystems></root> __________________ [this signature intentionally left blank]

09-24-2004, 09:42 AM	#12
buran Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: how'd I get here? Posts: 264	Because when I got to the end of the message I didn't want to sound harsh. It's just recent problems with hosting companies put me in a bad mood. I personally need to get some load balancing in place. Really what I want to do is get hosting in two data centers, and have some wan-balancing so if either of those datacenters goes up in smoke my sites are still live. So Battus, you don't think you'll use remote reboot? Does your datacenter have 24x7 onsite staff? I've wished that I had remote reboot service on my boxes before. Take care. b. __________________ [this signature intentionally left blank]

09-24-2004, 09:49 AM	#17
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09-24-2004, 09:04 AM	#2
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09-24-2004, 09:09 AM	#3
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	You are bitching about server maintenance and 15 mins downtime? Wow.

09-24-2004, 09:13 AM	#5
Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	www.alertra.com

09-24-2004, 09:14 AM	#7
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	There is not one server out there that doesnt need maintenance. Everybody has a downtime every now and then.

09-24-2004, 09:39 AM	#11
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	No offense? Why you said that to me?

09-24-2004, 09:50 AM	#18
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Battus, nice service you have at betterbeup. Also as far as the reboots, please let me know when you have rebooted the server. You have my phone. Also that one server with domain teensex don't need a reboot Thnx Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

09-24-2004, 09:55 AM	#23
buran Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: how'd I get here? Posts: 264	oh, yeah, Battus I see, I'm just retarded. the thread is upside down when replying (sneaky!) (^.^)v __________________ [this signature intentionally left blank]

09-24-2004, 10:28 AM	#25
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Looks like you have alot of unnecessary worry about the actual reboot. Because you arent mentioning that you are worried the techs will take longer than necessary to install the power strips and rewire your power chord, so I assume you are worried that your server wont come up after a reboot because of some failure or misconfiguration. Well, thats kinda your fault, because assuming you had your server for a few months you may want to upgrade the OS to plug up any holes that have been discovered and overall tighten things up, guess what you'll need a reboot for that. So if you are worrying about the server not coming up since EV1 doesnt do much tech support for you, thats on your shoulders, I personally have no worries about rebooting any of my servers because I know their configurations inside and out and because the datacenter is staffed 24/7/365. Now if you are taking about delays in the physical labor, I can understand that, but hope for the best, there are always unforseen circumstances, but nothing you can do to avoid that, they are in fact providing a valuable service that plenty of their customers will enjoy and EV1 is more about quantity then specific per customer special requests, so go with the flow, or get a host where you pay a bit more but your individual needs are catered to. __________________ Take Luck!