well, most of that stuff is junk these days, as the only active ingredient that worked has now become illegal. Ephedrine. Not that you couldn't find it if you knew where to look... and sure, the stuff works like crazy, but it's not a healthy way to drop the lbs... it's very hard on your heart, and with overweight folks, this is the main concern. people were dropping dead of heart attacks off ephedrine, thus the recent outlaw.

in the past, I used pure ephedrine supps. it was more or less legal-crank. it kept me thin for awhile, but it never lasted. this was well before I started down the "right" path...

All my success has been with "natural" dieting and exercise. I refuse to put any of that stuff in my body now. As it also left me feeling like a car wreck afterwards anyway...

Now I get my ups from running (runners high), and caffeine. Both keep me burning calories during my off time.

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good to hear! keep us posted on your progress would you?:)

Great advice Raven.:thumbsup

eating "Fresh" foods is the first step to success for sure.

why thank you! :)

badass dude! keep up the good work! :thumbsup

i like this response allot better then the one i gave, disregard mine!:1orglaugh

i don't want to give the impression that the ephedrine had LASTING results. What galleryseak said is on the money... it will jack you... in a bad way.

you dont look 100lbs overweight in the first pic

what were your stats and what are they now?

lol yours was all truthful too.

I think you need to post another before picture, it's in demand! :winkwink:

Truth be told, 40lbs were accounted for by his penis.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :helpme

:1orglaugh ok ok... let me dig something up.

Then - 6'0" 255lbs 46" waist...

Now - 6'0" 155lbs 28" waist...

here's a full view of me in all my glory!:1orglaugh
http://www.i-ventures.net/fat2fit/4.jpg

and one of the originals i posted of my progress for comparison...
http://www.i-ventures.net/fat2fit/3.jpg

speaking of comparison... have any of you tried WTS side by side with your existing solution? We only charge fee's on your NET profit, not GROSS like our competition. Thus collecting 65%-75% compared to 40% like the others... Hit me up on ICQ for more info... I'd be happy to show you how WTS can make you more money!:thumbsup

damn, you just don't look 255 lbs in that pic. you must have some big legs, I would say it appears as though you would also have a big frame as well, but your recent picture doesn't really suggest that though. heh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh i just re-read my last post and i'm killin myslef! hahahaha...

Congrats! Nice of you to share your story! Keep it up!:winkwink:

Yeah... I wore the weight well.
Big legs, arms, and very thick trunk/mid section.
...but no shit. 255lbs in that pic.

great post man, what is the corerlation betweed sodium and being cut?

amaznig results....

what were your excercise schedule & routine while you changed your eating habits ?

for those looking to build mass:

I've posted this picture awhile ago, but it's me in the same shirt roughly 3 years apart.

http://bodygain.com/members/photos/74_1078388975.jpg

--mind you, results like that can be made in a shorter time frame, my first 2 years i really didn't know what i was doing diet-wise and wasted a lot of time.

any anobolics or prohormones?

sodium makes you hold water. if you want to be shredded ( very vascular ), avoid exess sodium and it will be much easier.

that said, anything in moderation isn't going to kill you. i drink red-bull often before going to the gym and it doesn't effect me too much... but if i want my shit to REALLY POP, i'll stop drinking it for a week or two and I'll cut right up. :thumbsup

also, the more water you drink, the more cut you'll be...:winkwink:

cool so about 1 diet coke a day would be cool? i drink about 2 a day

nooo. the only thing i took back then was protein shakes, but never consistently. then i gained a lactose intolerance and i couldn't even drink lactose-free protein shakes.

so now I don't even take any supplements whatsoever. im gonna try to find something that'll work though in terms of protein shakes.

it's very possible to get some good size without resorting to drugs. i was/am very consistent about my workouts. i also strive for new goals weight-lifting wise.

my barbell flat bench press max is 275
my flat dumbbell press is 120 lb dumbbells for 5 reps
preacher curl 135x6 reps
barbell shoulder press 185x5
dumbbell shoulder press 90x5
deadlift 375x4

i'm 6'0 185

all about intensity and forcing an adequate adaptive response.

i still have a LOT of room for improvement and I can't wait till i'm reppin the 3 plates !

Good for you! The struggle with weight is something so many people deal with, no matter how rich or poor you are.


If you want to lose or maintain weight, you have to commit to it. Once you get going, you'll be happy, and want to continue.


I never get more than 15 pounds overweight since I was 16.


You can get new cars, new chicks, new gucci wallets, but you cant get a new body without alot of work over time.


Congrats man! :thumbsup

I took up running and lifting free weights. :glugglug

I'll post better details of my routine tonight...

Right now I'm off to the house, and then the gym!:thumbsup

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damn, i don't have time to read all the stuffs.

i just bookmarked it and read it over and over again once i get some sleep. seems one of the things i need to get done-- eat right and exercise.

one of the best health threads :thumbsup :thumbsup

nice story man :thumbsup

well done I just started eating every 3 hours and I like it a lot I still eat shit though

wow... i'm speachless! what a hottie!:Graucho

you did good

CONGRATS! you look good man! im thinking if i can do it also.,well, i hope so. i also want to have good body! i guess everyone likes that!:)

Congratulations man! Keep it off!

yeah I have the same problem, I find if I start eatting small meals I loose weight but, being a workaholic I notice soon as I get up I go to the computer and start programming, and before I know it, almost the whole day is gone, so I eat lunch at around 1 or 2, totally forgot breakfast, and then when I noticed I didn't eat dinner it is around 9 or so. The only thing that is saving me is I playing b-ball 3 times a week.

i bought myself a mini fridge to keep fresh food in. i bring grocerys to work all the time. you can eat every 3 hours if you plan ahead.

keeping up with everything food and exercise wise is no easy task either. put that on top of a typical webmasters workload (never ending) and you have one full schedule.

like i said earlier, it's got to be an all around lifestyle change...

:glugglug

In that before picture he was wearing big shirts to cover up the rolls, but you can tell in his face.

body conscious huh . . .. . .

well i cant relate now . . . . .

What did / does your workout routine consist of when you were heavier & now?

:)

Good news... day one complete. Heh. I almost feel better about myself for not screwing up. :1orglaugh

Hey Ben, I was wondering if you could post an average day menu and maybe a little bit about the workout routine. Thanks :thumbsup

I could stand to lose about 10 lbs or more.... Probably more.

Ben, are you going to be posting your workout routine?


:)

wow... nice thread. thanks for sharing!:winkwink:

Sure thing.:thumbsup

A typical day for me...

Wake up 6:30am, slam a protein shake, go for a run. When I get back, after showering and getting ready, I'll have a banana sliced over oatmeal with skim milk (roughly 7:30am). Then a large coffee on the way in to work. 3 hours later I'll have my first snack. Usually I'll just munch some sort of energy bar, fruit, or beef jerky. Maybe yogurt or cottage cheese if I'm in the mood. Next comes lunch... Considering I go out for lunch almost every day, I have to be carful. Usually I'll go to some sort of seafood place and order grilled salmon or something of that nature. If I don't get seafood, I try and find a grilled chicken sandwich, sub sand, or something of that nature. No fries though!!! Back from lunch I might have another cup of coffee... maybe not. lol. 3 hours after that I'll have an afternoon carb load snack. Something that's going to give me plenty of energy for a good workout. I'm a cereal junky, so I usually have a bowl of oat based fiber rich cereal. A good brand is "Kashi". After work I'll head home while drinking a sugar-free redbull, then it's strait to the gym! Every week I switch my routine up a bit, but for the most part I'll take one day for back/shoulders, another for bi's/tri's, and another for legs. I usually do abs every other morning before my run.

I'll try and go further into the specifics of my routine later, but I'm in meetings all day today so it's going to have to wait a bit.

I hope this helped a little for those with questions about my diet/routine.

:glugglug

Thanks man, no wonder you're in such great shape, you get essentially 2 work-outs per day =)

awesome story Brad... I have actually been on this program since i got back from the internext convention in florida. I was 140 lbs and now i am 132 lbs. This is my program

7am- egg sammy (1 egg, wheat toast)
10am- apex protein bar
lunch- dry turkey sammy with a squirt of miricle whip, raw veggies, ie, carrots, cucumber, or sweet peppers