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Old 09-30-2004, 03:21 AM   #1
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Kerry vs Bush: Tonights the night you master debaters have been waiting for

Tonight, President Bush and Senator John Kerry meet in their first debate, on foreign policy.

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"I don't think we've had as clear-cut a difference between two presidential candidates on international issues since 1980," said Richard C. Holbrooke, a former United Nations ambassador and now a top adviser to Mr. Kerry.

There are "clear differences on the biggest priorities facing the American people, first and foremost on the war on terrorism," Scott McClellan, the White House spokesman, said on Wednesday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/30/po...?oref=login&th

Should be good.
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:24 AM   #2
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With all their rules and predetermined format our debates here around GFY are probably going to look brilliant by comparison
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:27 AM   #3
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With all their rules and predetermined format our debates here around GFY are probably going to look brilliant by comparison
You could be right, format-wise. I have never liked it when supposed debates turn into a hodge-podge of people all talking over one another. At least here you get to have your say in each post.

I am no fan of jerks interrupting each other, something that political debates are often rife with.
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:27 AM   #4
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It would be roughly 10 billion times more interesting if Bush and Kerry were allowed to ask each other questions.

They aren't.
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:28 AM   #5
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every single question is known before hand along with answers

it ain't a debate, it is a carefully scripted production thrown by terrible actors
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Old 09-30-2004, 03:57 AM   #6
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every single question is known before hand along with answers

it ain't a debate, it is a carefully scripted production thrown by terrible actors
Bingo
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Well, whatever. This is about as good as it's going to get for you guys. I've seen people here on the board posting that they can't wait to see these two guys have a "debate".... well this is it.


Other than this it's all just campaign mudslinging, which has become an exercise in tedium,
ad nauseum.

I might tune in, if it doesn't, you know..... conflict with Survivor. :D
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but this isn't going to be a debate
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:32 AM   #9
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but this isn't going to be a debate
Ya we get that.
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Old 09-30-2004, 04:35 AM   #10
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God I want Kerry to look over at Bush and say " Do you realize just how fucking stupid you are."
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I might tune in, if it doesn't, you know..... conflict with Survivor. :D
Comes on right after Survivor, you don't even have to change the channel
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It would be roughly 10 billion times more interesting if Bush and Kerry were allowed to ask each other questions.
I agree. They could even make it a separate portion of the proceedings so they could still have the rigidly ruled "debates".
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Hopefully this will be televised here though I doubt it.
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Hopefully this will be televised here though I doubt it.
If they don't you can watch it at http://cspan.org
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Comes on right after Survivor, you don't even have to change the channel
So they had sense enough to schedule their little scripted love-in around it then?

Awesome. :D
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If they don't you can watch it at http://cspan.org
thanks for the link, surely i won't miss the event
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Will be watching for Bush to veer off his script and stumble..... and *pop*... out comes another Bushism. Kerry will have to bait him and shake him up if he wants to score extra points.

The whole "I'm not Bush" platform will only get him so far.
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With all their rules and predetermined format our debates here around GFY are probably going to look brilliant by comparison
You are right, its really not a debate its a dual press conference.
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I just hope one of them sneezes or has to pee or something, else it could prove awfully sterile.. Kerry has been a little sick, maybe he'll puke.
Maybe they'll have pretzels for snacks and Bush will choke.

Anyway, should be fun to watch and hopefully clear some things up.
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