George W. Bush does not have the Christian vote

[Corleone]

The Pope is against him
The UN is against him
He's no christ

He's doesn't respect the bible ...

So why should christs vote for him?

Can't understand why PPl mix christs and bush voters..

[Giorgio_Xo]

In June 2003, Mahmoud Abbas, then the Palestinian prime minister, said that in a conversation with Bush, the president told him: ?God told me to strike at al-Qaida, and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5819171/

[Corleone]

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
In June 2003, Mahmoud Abbas, then the Palestinian prime minister, said that in a conversation with Bush, the president told him: ?God told me to strike at al-Qaida, and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5819171/

the statement is crazy...


Hitler said the same.......

[jigg]

i find that most of these southern people are religious hypocrits, they use it to compensate and not having to deal with their own demons.

my boyfriend's mom told him he should switch and vote for Bush, something having to do with religion again. The 700 club has brainwashed them into believing criticizing Bush would bring harm to America. Which bogles my mind considering their son is gay and they have all but forgotten they have a daughter. It's all about tuning out reality and believing what you want to make yourself feel good

[DimeStoreNovel]

Alfred E. Newman for President

[Rich]

Smart Christians don't vote for him, stupid ones do. They hear him say God more often then Kerry, and that's enough for them. Seriously.

Look at Stephen Baldwin, perfect example of the idiot born again Christians who vote for Bush. He doesn't mention his policies or anything but it looks like "he believes in God more than Kerry. LMFAO

[SPWGuru]

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
In June 2003, Mahmoud Abbas, then the Palestinian prime minister, said that in a conversation with Bush, the president told him: ?God told me to strike at al-Qaida, and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5819171/

I think Bush confused god with his Dad.

[Corleone]

Originally posted by Rich
Smart Christians don't vote for him, stupid ones do. They hear him say God more often then Kerry, and that's enough for them. Seriously.

Look at Stephen Baldwin, perfect example of the idiot born again Christians who vote for Bush. He doesn't mention his policies or anything but it looks like "he believes in God more than Kerry. LMFAO

yep .. sad but true

[Bansheelinks]

Your dead wrong, Corleone. Over 75% of those that identify themselves as evangelical christians, and they are teeming in the south, are voting republican. it was this vote that was clearly identified as giving Bush Sr. his presidency.

unfortunately, this is a very powerful base.

[The Truth Hurts]

Originally posted by Rich
He doesn't mention his policies or anything

Geez, maybe he can be the Democratic candidate in 2008.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by DimeStoreNovel
Alfred E. Newman for President

What me worry?

[Tom_PMs]

Originally posted by DimeStoreNovel
Alfred E. Newman for President

Can't wait for the Fold In constitution.

[Rich]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Geez, maybe he can be the Democratic candidate in 2008.

?

You should at least try to make sense.

BUSH IS THE INCUMBENT.

In any normal election in any civilized democracy, the incumbent talks about his record as President, and the challenger questions it.

I realize most Bush voters are too ignorant to see past the flag waiving and chants, so I'll spell it out for you. The Bush convention was the convention they should have had if Kerry had been President for the past 4 years. They didn't mention anything Bush had done as President (how could they?), all they did was bash Kerry. It's was sad, and I think answered any questions anyone may have had about the intelligence level of people who vote for that party. Rational voters don't think like a ten year old cheering for his football team.

I realize you were too young to remember the 96 campaign, but I can assure you Clinton ran on his record. Same thing in the Canadian election this year, and every other election ever. Ignorance is taking over America and it's all focused itself in the Republican party. I guess you go where you fit in.

[JesseD]

Originally posted by Rich
Smart Christians don't vote for him, stupid ones do. They hear him say God more often then Kerry, and that's enough for them. Seriously.

Look at Stephen Baldwin, perfect example of the idiot born again Christians who vote for Bush. He doesn't mention his policies or anything but it looks like "he believes in God more than Kerry. LMFAO

There are such things as smart Christians?

[Tom_PMs]

Originally posted by Rich
I realize you were too young to remember the 96 campaign, but I can assure you Clinton ran on his record.

For anyone interested, do a google for "1996 democratic convention speech clinton" and you'll find clintons speech.

It makes interesting reading, especially where he begs the congress to pass a law to allow wiretaps of terror suspects (which they didnt).

[Doctor Dre]

Originally posted by Corleone
The Pope is against him
The UN is against him
He's no christ

He's doesn't respect the bible ...

So why should christs vote for him?

Can't understand why PPl mix christs and bush voters..

Statistics proove christians sheeps vote for him fool

[Rich]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Statistics proove christians sheeps vote for him fool

Protestants vote for him, not Catholics.

[jimmyf]

Fuck The Pope
Double fuck The UN

Fuck the bible ...

I'm voting for him because he likes 2 make War.

[baddog]

Originally posted by Corleone
the statement is crazy...


Hitler said the same.......

bullshit, al-queda and Saddam were not issues back then

[JasonB]

There was a really good Frontline done about Bush & his religion.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/

you can watch the whole thing online. ...very interesting.
Especially the part about the "Faith Based Initiative" where he invoked Executive Order & then only gave the $$ to Xtians ...no Jews, no Muslim, no Buddist, etc.

[baddog]

Originally posted by Rich
Protestants vote for him, not Catholics.

I don't know where you get your facts, but here are a couple

1. Catholics and protestants are both Christian
2. True Catholics are probably more inclined to vote for Bush just because of his stance on abortion

[JasonB]

Originally posted by baddog
bullshit, al-queda and Saddam were not issues back then

No, there wasnt al-queda, etc then, but Hitler did believe he was doing the will of God.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - Adolf Hitler

[Goatse]

Originally posted by JasonB
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - Adolf Hitler

Didn't he write that in Mein Kampf, two decades before the war? It's generally believed that Hitler was an agnostic in the last decade of his life, though he occasionally made pro-Christian/Catholic statements to garner popular support.

[baddog]

Originally posted by JasonB
No, there wasnt al-queda, etc then, but Hitler did believe he was doing the will of God.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - Adolf Hitler

isn't it common knowledge that God does not like Jews?

[Pleasurepays]

Originally posted by baddog
I don't know where you get your facts, but here are a couple


2. True Catholics are probably more inclined to vote for Bush just because of his stance on abortion

generally, this seems to be the only issue that the religious right cares about at election time.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Goatse
Didn't he write that in Mein Kampf, two decades before the war? It's generally believed that Hitler was an agnostic in the last decade of his life, though he occasionally made pro-Christian/Catholic statements to garner popular support.

I think he was agnostic and actually tried to demolish the church and religion in Germany. Not quite sure though.

[Corleone]

Originally posted by Bansheelinks
Your dead wrong, Corleone. Over 75% of those that identify themselves as evangelical christians, and they are teeming in the south, are voting republican. it was this vote that was clearly identified as giving Bush Sr. his presidency.

unfortunately, this is a very powerful base.

and thats wrong.. they're irritated...

[boobmaster]

Originally posted by JasonB
No, there wasnt al-queda, etc then, but Hitler did believe he was doing the will of God.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - Adolf Hitler

Everybody thinks GOD is on their side

[Rich]

Originally posted by baddog
I don't know where you get your facts, but here are a couple

1. Catholics and protestants are both Christian
2. True Catholics are probably more inclined to vote for Bush just because of his stance on abortion

Well debtmaster let's take a look at the msn article posted in the second post of this thread. I know it's hard to read anything more than the CNN ticker, but let's try ok?

Although Bush previously had made it clear that he was ?born again,? he was reluctant to discuss the details of his faith before he ran for president. That changed in 2000, as the Bush campaign highlighted the candidate?s religious principles as the core of his proclaimed ?compassionate conservative? agenda.

It paid off in 2000. Exit polls showed that Bush won 55 percent of the Protestant vote, which made up more than half of the electorate; among white Protestants, Bush beat Al Gore by almost 2 to 1. The support was crucial ? Gore won among every other measurable religious group, from black Protestants to Catholics to Jews to non-believers.

Baddog it's like you ask me to make you look stupid.

[Rich]

Baddog, I love how people like yourself just assume everything that sounds right in your head is the truth. Never change.

[Joe Citizen]

Originally posted by Corleone
The Pope is against him
The UN is against him
He's no christ

He's doesn't respect the bible ...

So why should christs vote for him?

Can't understand why PPl mix christs and bush voters..

Christians are very gullible... lets face it, if you're stupid enough to buy religion, you're fairly weak of mind.

[baddog]

Originally posted by Rich
Well debtmaster let's take a look at the msn article posted in the second post of this thread. I know it's hard to read anything more than the CNN ticker, but let's try ok?



Baddog it's like you ask me to make you look stupid.

You stupid fuck, that does not say that protestants and Catholics are not both Christian. Fuck you are ignorant.

Chris·tian ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krschn)
adj.
Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings.
Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.
Showing a loving concern for others; humane.

n.
One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

now, which one does not fall into that category? Protestants or Catholics

here, let me help you stupid shit

christian

\Chris"tian\, a.

Christian Endeavor, Young People's Society of. In various Protestant churches, a society of young people organized in each individual church to do Christian work; also, the whole body of such organizations, which are united in a corporation called the United Society of Christian Endeavor, organized in 1885. The parent society was founded in 1881 at Portland, Maine, by Rev. Francis E. Clark, a Congregational minister. Christian Era \ChristianEra\ The era in use in all Christian countries, which was intended to commence with the birth of Christ. The era as now established was first used by Dionysius Exiguus (died about 540), who placed the birth of Christ on the 25th of December in the year of Rome 754, which year he counted as 1 a. d. This date for Christ's birth is now generally thought to be about four years too late.


cath·o·lic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kth-lk, kthlk)
adj.
Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive: ?The 100-odd pages of formulas and constants are surely the most catholic to be found? (Scientific American).
Including or concerning all humankind; universal: ?what was of catholic rather than national interest? (J.A. Froude).
Catholic
Of or involving the Roman Catholic Church.
Of or relating to the universal Christian church.
Of or relating to the ancient undivided Christian church.
Of or relating to those churches that have claimed to be representatives of the ancient undivided church


Prot·es·tant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prt-stnt)
n.
A member of a Western Christian church whose faith and practice are founded on the principles of the Reformation, especially in the acceptance of the Bible as the sole source of revelation, in justification by faith alone, and in the universal priesthood of all the believers.
A member of a Western Christian church adhering to the theologies of Luther, Calvin, or Zwingli.
One of the German princes and cities that supported the doctrines of Luther and protested against the decision of the second Diet of Speyer (1529) to enforce the Edict of Worms (1521) and deny toleration to Lutherans.

Protestants and Catholics are both Christian

[baddog]

Also, Gore was not pro-Abortion, Kerry is

[Manowar]

Vote Kerry.

[baddog]

http://fairmontsentinel.com/news/stories/070604c.html

DUBUQUE, Iowa -- John Kerry's pro-choice stance on abortion dogged him during his Fourth of July visit to this heavily Catholic city.

The Democratic presidential candidate on Sunday attended mass at the Church of the Resurrection in Dubuque, sat in the fourth pew, donated a crisp $20 bill to the church during collection, and received Communion.

But several churchgoers separately quizzed Kerry about his legislative support for abortion rights after Mass on Sunday when Kerry was signing autographs and posing for pictures with congregation members.

"It's hard," Kerry told parishioner Frank Ward, a father of five and an abortion opponent. "It's a difficult line to walk."



It must be tough for a Catholic to not be able to swing the Catholic voters

[cluck]

Catholic is a huge demographic of hypocrites. I've got one side of protestant family and one side of catholic. Catholics are strict about a few things. You go to church, take communion, send your kids to CCD, etc. As far as daily life though, they don't give a fuck. They'll get all the abortions they want, as long as they confess it on sunday.

Protestants don't have safety nets like that so they really watch their lifestyle and fear any type of sin.

[xenigo]

Originally posted by JasonB
There was a really good Frontline done about Bush & his religion.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/

you can watch the whole thing online. ...very interesting.
Especially the part about the "Faith Based Initiative" where he invoked Executive Order & then only gave the $$ to Xtians ...no Jews, no Muslim, no Buddist, etc.

This is the most informative peice of information I've ever seen on GFY. Thanks for that.

[chodadog]

Originally posted by baddog
I don't know where you get your facts, but here are a couple

1. Catholics and protestants are both Christian
2. True Catholics are probably more inclined to vote for Bush just because of his stance on abortion

I don't think he was trying to say that one or the other weren't Christian. Just breaking it down into the sub groups and their voting tendencies.

If Catholics are more inclined to vote democrat and Protestants are more inclined to vote republican (i don't know whether they are or if they're not), then surely it'd be more correct to say so than just saying Christians are more likely to vote republican?