Corleone

The Pope is against him
The UN is against him
He's no christ

He's doesn't respect the bible ...

So why should christs vote for him?

Can't understand why PPl mix christs and bush voters..

Giorgio_Xo

In June 2003, Mahmoud Abbas, then the Palestinian prime minister, said that in a conversation with Bush, the president told him: ?God told me to strike at al-Qaida, and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did.?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5819171/

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Corleone

the statement is crazy...


Hitler said the same.......

jigg

i find that most of these southern people are religious hypocrits, they use it to compensate and not having to deal with their own demons.

my boyfriend's mom told him he should switch and vote for Bush, something having to do with religion again. The 700 club has brainwashed them into believing criticizing Bush would bring harm to America. Which bogles my mind considering their son is gay and they have all but forgotten they have a daughter. It's all about tuning out reality and believing what you want to make yourself feel good

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DimeStoreNovel

Alfred E. Newman for President

Rich

Smart Christians don't vote for him, stupid ones do. They hear him say God more often then Kerry, and that's enough for them. Seriously.

Look at Stephen Baldwin, perfect example of the idiot born again Christians who vote for Bush. He doesn't mention his policies or anything but it looks like "he believes in God more than Kerry. LMFAO

SPWGuru

I think Bush confused god with his Dad.

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Corleone

yep .. sad but true

Bansheelinks

Your dead wrong, Corleone. Over 75% of those that identify themselves as evangelical christians, and they are teeming in the south, are voting republican. it was this vote that was clearly identified as giving Bush Sr. his presidency.

unfortunately, this is a very powerful base.

The Truth Hurts

Geez, maybe he can be the Democratic candidate in 2008.

mardigras

What me worry?

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Can't wait for the Fold In constitution.

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Rich

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You should at least try to make sense.

BUSH IS THE INCUMBENT.

In any normal election in any civilized democracy, the incumbent talks about his record as President, and the challenger questions it.

I realize most Bush voters are too ignorant to see past the flag waiving and chants, so I'll spell it out for you. The Bush convention was the convention they should have had if Kerry had been President for the past 4 years. They didn't mention anything Bush had done as President (how could they?), all they did was bash Kerry. It's was sad, and I think answered any questions anyone may have had about the intelligence level of people who vote for that party. Rational voters don't think like a ten year old cheering for his football team.

I realize you were too young to remember the 96 campaign, but I can assure you Clinton ran on his record. Same thing in the Canadian election this year, and every other election ever. Ignorance is taking over America and it's all focused itself in the Republican party. I guess you go where you fit in.

JesseD

There are such things as smart Christians?

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Tom_PMs

For anyone interested, do a google for "1996 democratic convention speech clinton" and you'll find clintons speech.

It makes interesting reading, especially where he begs the congress to pass a law to allow wiretaps of terror suspects (which they didnt).

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Doctor Dre

Statistics proove christians sheeps vote for him fool

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Rich

Protestants vote for him, not Catholics.

jimmyf

Fuck The Pope
Double fuck The UN

Fuck the bible ...

I'm voting for him because he likes 2 make War.

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baddog

bullshit, al-queda and Saddam were not issues back then

JasonB

There was a really good Frontline done about Bush & his religion.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jesus/

you can watch the whole thing online. ...very interesting.
Especially the part about the "Faith Based Initiative" where he invoked Executive Order & then only gave the $$ to Xtians ...no Jews, no Muslim, no Buddist, etc.

baddog

I don't know where you get your facts, but here are a couple

1. Catholics and protestants are both Christian
2. True Catholics are probably more inclined to vote for Bush just because of his stance on abortion

JasonB

No, there wasnt al-queda, etc then, but Hitler did believe he was doing the will of God.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." - Adolf Hitler

Goatse

Didn't he write that in Mein Kampf, two decades before the war? It's generally believed that Hitler was an agnostic in the last decade of his life, though he occasionally made pro-Christian/Catholic statements to garner popular support.

baddog

isn't it common knowledge that God does not like Jews?

Pleasurepays

generally, this seems to be the only issue that the religious right cares about at election time.

Drake

I think he was agnostic and actually tried to demolish the church and religion in Germany. Not quite sure though.

Corleone

and thats wrong.. they're irritated...

boobmaster

Rich

Well debtmaster let's take a look at the msn article posted in the second post of this thread. I know it's hard to read anything more than the CNN ticker, but let's try ok?

Baddog it's like you ask me to make you look stupid.

Rich

Baddog, I love how people like yourself just assume everything that sounds right in your head is the truth. Never change.

Joe Citizen

Christians are very gullible... lets face it, if you're stupid enough to buy religion, you're fairly weak of mind.

baddog

You stupid fuck, that does not say that protestants and Catholics are not both Christian. Fuck you are ignorant.

Chris·tian ( P ) Pronunciation Key (krschn)
adj.
Professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
Relating to or derived from Jesus or Jesus's teachings.
Manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus; Christlike.
Relating to or characteristic of Christianity or its adherents.
Showing a loving concern for others; humane.

n.
One who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or follows the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.
One who lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

now, which one does not fall into that category? Protestants or Catholics

here, let me help you stupid shit

christian

\Chris"tian\, a.

Christian Endeavor, Young People's Society of. In various Protestant churches, a society of young people organized in each individual church to do Christian work; also, the whole body of such organizations, which are united in a corporation called the United Society of Christian Endeavor, organized in 1885. The parent society was founded in 1881 at Portland, Maine, by Rev. Francis E. Clark, a Congregational minister. Christian Era \ChristianEra\ The era in use in all Christian countries, which was intended to commence with the birth of Christ. The era as now established was first used by Dionysius Exiguus (died about 540), who placed the birth of Christ on the 25th of December in the year of Rome 754, which year he counted as 1 a. d. This date for Christ's birth is now generally thought to be about four years too late.


cath·o·lic ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kth-lk, kthlk)
adj.
Of broad or liberal scope; comprehensive: ?The 100-odd pages of formulas and constants are surely the most catholic to be found? (Scientific American).
Including or concerning all humankind; universal: ?what was of catholic rather than national interest? (J.A. Froude).
Catholic
Of or involving the Roman Catholic Church.
Of or relating to the universal Christian church.
Of or relating to the ancient undivided Christian church.
Of or relating to those churches that have claimed to be representatives of the ancient undivided church


Prot·es·tant ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prt-stnt)
n.
A member of a Western Christian church whose faith and practice are founded on the principles of the Reformation, especially in the acceptance of the Bible as the sole source of revelation, in justification by faith alone, and in the universal priesthood of all the believers.
A member of a Western Christian church adhering to the theologies of Luther, Calvin, or Zwingli.
One of the German princes and cities that supported the doctrines of Luther and protested against the decision of the second Diet of Speyer (1529) to enforce the Edict of Worms (1521) and deny toleration to Lutherans.

Protestants and Catholics are both Christian

baddog

Also, Gore was not pro-Abortion, Kerry is

Manowar

Vote Kerry.

baddog

http://fairmontsentinel.com/news/stories/070604c.html

DUBUQUE, Iowa -- John Kerry's pro-choice stance on abortion dogged him during his Fourth of July visit to this heavily Catholic city.

The Democratic presidential candidate on Sunday attended mass at the Church of the Resurrection in Dubuque, sat in the fourth pew, donated a crisp $20 bill to the church during collection, and received Communion.

But several churchgoers separately quizzed Kerry about his legislative support for abortion rights after Mass on Sunday when Kerry was signing autographs and posing for pictures with congregation members.

"It's hard," Kerry told parishioner Frank Ward, a father of five and an abortion opponent. "It's a difficult line to walk."



It must be tough for a Catholic to not be able to swing the Catholic voters

cluck

Catholic is a huge demographic of hypocrites. I've got one side of protestant family and one side of catholic. Catholics are strict about a few things. You go to church, take communion, send your kids to CCD, etc. As far as daily life though, they don't give a fuck. They'll get all the abortions they want, as long as they confess it on sunday.

Protestants don't have safety nets like that so they really watch their lifestyle and fear any type of sin.

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xenigo

This is the most informative peice of information I've ever seen on GFY. Thanks for that.

chodadog

I don't think he was trying to say that one or the other weren't Christian. Just breaking it down into the sub groups and their voting tendencies.

If Catholics are more inclined to vote democrat and Protestants are more inclined to vote republican (i don't know whether they are or if they're not), then surely it'd be more correct to say so than just saying Christians are more likely to vote republican?

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