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Old 09-15-2004, 05:43 PM   #51
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Old 09-15-2004, 06:08 PM   #52
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Btw Ella did the first batch of galleries for me that they actually delivered and they were good, but their contact never properly instructed her how I wanted the galleries done so the company didnt follow my instructions. So I just ordered more and it took me over 2 months to get my money back. It wasnt a lot of money, just a lot of wasted time.
I am so very sorry to hear about this, I left Heaven Production the very same week. The reasons were already explained in this thread, like everybody else I was lied to and scammed.
I remember those galleries very well, as well as our convo on ICQ, when you told me that you paid for another batch. I should have contacted you to tell you that I left Heaven Production, I appologize for not doing so, but pls understand that I was so upset at that time that I couldn't think about anything else, besides I was assured that they have plenty of back up designers.
I have my own design company for over 6 years and been in the adult biz for the past three, but I never experienced something similar and I hope I never will again.
Again I am trully sorry to hear how things turned out for you, I am amazed that Heaven Production is still up there and guess what, they are still taking orders, as I've seen in a few threads today.
(this is not for the employees btw, for them I can only feel sorry)
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Old 09-15-2004, 06:38 PM   #53
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Why I haven't warn you earlier? He were assuring me that he will pay me 50% of generated sales, then that money are on way etc, so I was waiting for that money... But never got a penny from him, so I decided to warn you all and to give you a opportunity to make your content legal for free- I'll issue valid license to everyone who bought my content from him...


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Here we go again

So you did a business deal with this guy and if he paid you then the webmasters would have no license problems right?
You approved this guy as your reseller so you have to take it up with him not the innocent webmasters. The webmasters paid their money and received a license. What about the poor webmasters that don't read this?
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:19 PM   #54
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:26 PM   #55
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. What about the poor webmasters that don't read this?
that is his fault somehow?
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that is his fault somehow?
You think it's the webmasters fault?
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Old 09-16-2004, 01:50 AM   #57
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Here we go again

So you did a business deal with this guy and if he paid you then the webmasters would have no license problems right?
You approved this guy as your reseller so you have to take it up with him not the innocent webmasters. The webmasters paid their money and received a license. What about the poor webmasters that don't read this?
Well he's only helping the webmasters out if you want a valid license you can still send him an email....
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Old 09-16-2004, 01:52 AM   #58
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Ok here we go because i know every one want't to bitch about me.

Ok the guy with the wrong gallery order. Greg was the guy that was having contact with arrangeing your order. When all went wrong and i found out because the designer told me. I contectated greg (pxxx) and asked what was going on. First of all you already gotten an extreme discount what you were not supposed to have then, you got galleries but i heard from pxxx that they were no good. Then it was all quited and i got a request for a refund. After i tried to get an idea what was going on here and what all happend i refunded your money. So it is really lame to start talking like this you got galleries and got your money back.

Ok, clock wise got paid as we agreed on for the projects he is doing so don't know what pxxx is bitching about that for.

Pxxx you are really fucker. When you worked with me you had all the time in the world to do your stuff. Then i paid once then you needed a present for your mum and you had no money so i paypaled you money then you needed a server for your biz so i paid you a dedicated server for you and your partner. So then you would start working for me and you never got things done on time you told me that got arrested and not that you got a dead in the family. I don't want to be an ass but when my mum ended in the hospital where she is still i also didn't stop working for 2 weeks. And then you srewed up several other things.

Ella you are also really cool (not) when it was pay day i just paid you on your friends paypal nothing with holding it back there was no beef. But when Greg (pxxx) made a post with your name in it and he didn't asked it to you,you got mad. So what has that to do with me?

As you see every one can start to bitch about on all kinds of thing but then you need to say thing that i really did. And i know it is easy to join the group and get your own name up on the list with hurt people.

And i do pay people like adultallexion and ello, clockwise ect Stop fucking with me and go do work or anything.

And i asked kriss to hit me up on icq several times and he doesn't want to talk, that is fine but then you should not fuck me when you started to run your month on the day the money was being transferd.
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Ok here we go because i know every one want't to bitch about me.

Ok the guy with the wrong gallery order. Greg was the guy that was having contact with arrangeing your order. When all went wrong and i found out because the designer told me. I contectated greg (pxxx) and asked what was going on. First of all you already gotten an extreme discount what you were not supposed to have then, you got galleries but i heard from pxxx that they were no good. Then it was all quited and i got a request for a refund. After i tried to get an idea what was going on here and what all happend i refunded your money. So it is really lame to start talking like this you got galleries and got your money back.

Ok, clock wise got paid as we agreed on for the projects he is doing so don't know what pxxx is bitching about that for.

Pxxx you are really fucker. When you worked with me you had all the time in the world to do your stuff. Then i paid once then you needed a present for your mum and you had no money so i paypaled you money then you needed a server for your biz so i paid you a dedicated server for you and your partner. So then you would start working for me and you never got things done on time you told me that got arrested and not that you got a dead in the family. I don't want to be an ass but when my mum ended in the hospital where she is still i also didn't stop working for 2 weeks. And then you srewed up several other things.

Ella you are also really cool (not) when it was pay day i just paid you on your friends paypal nothing with holding it back there was no beef. But when Greg (pxxx) made a post with your name in it and he didn't asked it to you,you got mad. So what has that to do with me?

As you see every one can start to bitch about on all kinds of thing but then you need to say thing that i really did. And i know it is easy to join the group and get your own name up on the list with hurt people.

And i do pay people like adultallexion and ello, clockwise ect Stop fucking with me and go do work or anything.

And i asked kriss to hit me up on icq several times and he doesn't want to talk, that is fine but then you should not fuck me when you started to run your month on the day the money was being transferd.
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Ok here we go because i know every one want't to bitch about me.

Ok the guy with the wrong gallery order. Greg was the guy that was having contact with arrangeing your order. When all went wrong and i found out because the designer told me. I contectated greg (pxxx) and asked what was going on. First of all you already gotten an extreme discount what you were not supposed to have then, you got galleries but i heard from pxxx that they were no good. Then it was all quited and i got a request for a refund. After i tried to get an idea what was going on here and what all happend i refunded your money. So it is really lame to start talking like this you got galleries and got your money back.

Ok, clock wise got paid as we agreed on for the projects he is doing so don't know what pxxx is bitching about that for.

Pxxx you are really fucker. When you worked with me you had all the time in the world to do your stuff. Then i paid once then you needed a present for your mum and you had no money so i paypaled you money then you needed a server for your biz so i paid you a dedicated server for you and your partner. So then you would start working for me and you never got things done on time you told me that got arrested and not that you got a dead in the family. I don't want to be an ass but when my mum ended in the hospital where she is still i also didn't stop working for 2 weeks. And then you srewed up several other things.

Ella you are also really cool (not) when it was pay day i just paid you on your friends paypal nothing with holding it back there was no beef. But when Greg (pxxx) made a post with your name in it and he didn't asked it to you,you got mad. So what has that to do with me?

As you see every one can start to bitch about on all kinds of thing but then you need to say thing that i really did. And i know it is easy to join the group and get your own name up on the list with hurt people.

And i do pay people like adultallexion and ello, clockwise ect Stop fucking with me and go do work or anything.

And i asked kriss to hit me up on icq several times and he doesn't want to talk, that is fine but then you should not fuck me when you started to run your month on the day the money was being transferd.

where's the pf69 guy? he didn't get payed as well.....
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I know jkfc is very good person..
dont know what all this drama..
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I know jkfc is very good person..
dont know what all this drama..
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yeah he *sounds* like a good person did u work for him?
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You don't need to worry about that or try any harder, your already there.

And where is Nacho btw? He also "got paid". $30 for a month of work, he's probably retired to Hawai'i to spend all that money.

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You don't need to worry about that or try any harder, your already there.

And where is Nacho btw? He also "got paid". $30 for a month of work, he's probably retired to Hawai'i to spend all that money.


there are probably a lot more people who never saw anything....
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where's the pf69 guy? he didn't get payed as well.....
He didn't? That sucks, he is a good guy.
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He didn't? That sucks, he is a good guy.
yeah he's cool, but I heard from someone else that he didn't get payed as well....
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There has to be more. Its like he hires a new batch of employess everymonth and leave the last batch unpaid, or find a reason not to pay them.

Its funny how he decides to defend himself with me, and didnt go to mefo's side.



Go ahead and make your next move, go away, and come back as a new guy and different company name.

Oh yeah, feel free to go off on me again.
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Old 09-17-2004, 03:40 AM   #71
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Juan, stop telling lies that you have no contact to me! I was asking you months for payment, I gave you 2 weeks time to pay me before I decided to go public with the problem. You are simple thieve, nothing more..

I advice you to pay me before I go to court, as it will cost you a lot more..

Someone of you fellow webmaster says, that it is not your bussiness that he sold content without my licence and paying me- not quite truth- he had no license for that content, so everyone bought from he has no valid license as well..
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Well, im here Ella,
Before i start to tell you what this guy , this COLOMBIAN guy, JUAN UITTENBOSCH (or something like that:-P)made me. I want to thank ella for reminding me this biz.
As a lot of u know, im from Uruguay, and i work as a web/graphic designer and i run some TGPs. I hate scammers! so, im going to tell you a litte story. Im sorry for my ''English writing''mistakes.

3 months ago, this guy JKFC contacted me, telling me a story that they need a designer, part time or full time, so i decided to work for them as a part time designer.
I made 84 Banners, 4 HPAds, 4 FPAds, 2 sites and something else, in a month, well, i made all those things cause Juan and Greg told me to do that, they daily gave me some works to do and i made it. I worked 4 hours/day 6 days a week for 300 Dollars a Month.
But they didn't pay me 300 US Dollars, when it came the time of payouts, Juan was at Creta, on vacations, and Greg was having some trouble with his PC, or Internet Connection, so i worked 2 weeks more, waiting for Juan, cause they cannot pay me during Juan's Hollidays, i have to wait juan gets back.
When Juan got back, i talked with him, and he told me that he will payme, ''oh yeah man i will pay you'', remeber i have been working 1month and 2 weeks
When i went to the western Union, i ony got 30 USD
So i talked to him, and he told me , that he wont pay me any more.
I forgot that biz, and i desire Juan, the best life he can get....at JAIL!. But now ella remember me those bad times.

Im gonna give you some info about this guy.
Juan is from Colombia, is a product of Ilegall Child Traffic, his dad and mum, work in Colombia for the ''Drug Cartel'' and the ''Guerrilla'' his adoptive parents live at Netherlands, his dad is a lawyer, but not a good one.
Guys, be carefull of this scammer adn FUCKER!!
Juan, YOU HAVE BEEN TERMINATED!

Cya Guys!
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Nice story there Nacho. Great guy Nacho is, worked hard, but unfortunately, he was scammed like the rest of us. I thought this thread was buried, but there is never an end to a scam thread.
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Ok here we go because i know every one want't to bitch about me.

Ok the guy with the wrong gallery order. Greg was the guy that was having contact with arrangeing your order. When all went wrong and i found out because the designer told me. I contectated greg (pxxx) and asked what was going on. First of all you already gotten an extreme discount what you were not supposed to have then, you got galleries but i heard from pxxx that they were no good. Then it was all quited and i got a request for a refund. After i tried to get an idea what was going on here and what all happend i refunded your money. So it is really lame to start talking like this you got galleries and got your money back.

Ok, clock wise got paid as we agreed on for the projects he is doing so don't know what pxxx is bitching about that for.

Pxxx you are really fucker. When you worked with me you had all the time in the world to do your stuff. Then i paid once then you needed a present for your mum and you had no money so i paypaled you money then you needed a server for your biz so i paid you a dedicated server for you and your partner. So then you would start working for me and you never got things done on time you told me that got arrested and not that you got a dead in the family. I don't want to be an ass but when my mum ended in the hospital where she is still i also didn't stop working for 2 weeks. And then you srewed up several other things.

Ella you are also really cool (not) when it was pay day i just paid you on your friends paypal nothing with holding it back there was no beef. But when Greg (pxxx) made a post with your name in it and he didn't asked it to you,you got mad. So what has that to do with me?

As you see every one can start to bitch about on all kinds of thing but then you need to say thing that i really did. And i know it is easy to join the group and get your own name up on the list with hurt people.

And i do pay people like adultallexion and ello, clockwise ect Stop fucking with me and go do work or anything.

And i asked kriss to hit me up on icq several times and he doesn't want to talk, that is fine but then you should not fuck me when you started to run your month on the day the money was being transferd.
And how about me? How can you justify I "shouldn't be paid for my work," Juan? I know this goes back a few months, but your name isn't clear yet. I have some work sitting in my computer still -- that you have never seen. Yet, of course, you think I shouldn't be paid accordingly? Just tell the world you are a scamming useless piece of trash, and that you are only out there to make a quick buck off of generous people. See, now wasn't that easy?

Oh and by the way, I never really liked the idea of stealing someone elses design and idea. I wrote your entire script from scratch, and it works and functions beautifully. It's ok, my wasted hours, don't worry about paying, money is probably a bit tight.

Done...
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And how about me? How can you justify I "shouldn't be paid for my work," Juan? I know this goes back a few months, but your name isn't clear yet. I have some work sitting in my computer still -- that you have never seen. Yet, of course, you think I shouldn't be paid accordingly? Just tell the world you are a scamming useless piece of trash, and that you are only out there to make a quick buck off of generous people. See, now wasn't that easy?

Oh and by the way, I never really liked the idea of stealing someone elses design and idea. I wrote your entire script from scratch, and it works and functions beautifully. It's ok, my wasted hours, don't worry about paying, money is probably a bit tight.

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Well, im here Ella,
As a lot of u know, im from Uruguay, and i work as a web/graphic designer and i run some TGPs. I hate scammers! so, im going to tell you a litte story. Im sorry for my ''English writing''mistakes.

Nacho
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my father is from there anmd I would like to visit that part of the world this year for an extended vacation
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You want to hear better? When he first contacted me about the gallery stuff, he told me something like: "We know it works, cos we already did that for a friend and it was a success, now we want to take this to the next level, extend the entire biz".
And he gave me the following url to check out his friends site:
http://www.adultdesign.biz/
As we all know by now, that is your brother's site, he was Juan's "friend". In Juan's terminology, that probably means "the designer I screwed before".

Yay Nacho, it was great to hear you again, plus I'm glad you've seen this. You worked hard and I liked your banners and all the stuff you did back then. $30 is a shame. But then again, this guy has no shame.
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You want to hear better? When he first contacted me about the gallery stuff, he told me something like: "We know it works, cos we already did that for a friend and it was a success, now we want to take this to the next level, extend the entire biz".
And he gave me the following url to check out his friends site:
http://www.adultdesign.biz/
As we all know by now, that is your brother's site, he was Juan's "friend". In Juan's terminology, that probably means "the designer I screwed before".

Yay Nacho, it was great to hear you again, plus I'm glad you've seen this. You worked hard and I liked your banners and all the stuff you did back then. $30 is a shame. But then again, this guy has no shame.

what are you talking about? adultdesign.biz is in no way connected or has ever had connection to mr jkfc
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:53 AM   #82
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Oh I have no doubt about it, trust me. You and your brother are both honest and decent ppl, probably that's why Juan used your name to talk me into the "heaven production" hell. He said you are his friend and he (Juan) helped you to establish adultdesignbiz. I don't know if I dhould laugh or I should cry when I see the nerve this guy has.
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Old 11-02-2004, 10:55 AM   #83
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Oh I have no doubt about it, trust me. You and your brother are both honest and decent ppl, probably that's why Juan used your name to talk me into the "heaven production" hell. He said you are his friend and he (Juan) helped you to establish adultdesignbiz. I don't know if I dhould laugh or I should cry when I see the nerve this guy has.
ehm he hasn't helped in any way to create adultdesign.biz he just made that up... my brother and I created it... we did it so I could continu to work and leave jkf asap
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ehm he hasn't helped in any way to create adultdesign.biz he just made that up... my brother and I created it... we did it so I could continu to work and leave jkf asap
And you do great work too.
I just shared that story with you so that we can have a laugh over it, now that its all history. For us at least, cos I've just seen this thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=380961&s=
Juan is looking for another designer to scam. This guy never stops.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:30 AM   #85
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Ok here we go because i know every one want't to bitch about me.

Ok the guy with the wrong gallery order. Greg was the guy that was having contact with arrangeing your order. When all went wrong and i found out because the designer told me. I contectated greg (pxxx) and asked what was going on. First of all you already gotten an extreme discount what you were not supposed to have then, you got galleries but i heard from pxxx that they were no good. Then it was all quited and i got a request for a refund. After i tried to get an idea what was going on here and what all happend i refunded your money. So it is really lame to start talking like this you got galleries and got your money back.

Ok, clock wise got paid as we agreed on for the projects he is doing so don't know what pxxx is bitching about that for.

Pxxx you are really fucker. When you worked with me you had all the time in the world to do your stuff. Then i paid once then you needed a present for your mum and you had no money so i paypaled you money then you needed a server for your biz so i paid you a dedicated server for you and your partner. So then you would start working for me and you never got things done on time you told me that got arrested and not that you got a dead in the family. I don't want to be an ass but when my mum ended in the hospital where she is still i also didn't stop working for 2 weeks. And then you srewed up several other things.

Ella you are also really cool (not) when it was pay day i just paid you on your friends paypal nothing with holding it back there was no beef. But when Greg (pxxx) made a post with your name in it and he didn't asked it to you,you got mad. So what has that to do with me?

As you see every one can start to bitch about on all kinds of thing but then you need to say thing that i really did. And i know it is easy to join the group and get your own name up on the list with hurt people.

And i do pay people like adultallexion and ello, clockwise ect Stop fucking with me and go do work or anything.

And i asked kriss to hit me up on icq several times and he doesn't want to talk, that is fine but then you should not fuck me when you started to run your month on the day the money was being transferd.
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Old 11-02-2004, 11:41 AM   #86
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what are you talking about? adultdesign.biz is in no way connected or has ever had connection to mr jkfc
I think that's what he said.. no?
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I'm a "she". And yup, of course, that's exactly what I meant. Juan and adultdesign.biz couldn't have been related in any way, Juan was just taking advantage of their good name.
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I think that's what he said.. no?
yeah, some missreading I guess ;)

Like said above I guess juan used adultdesign.biz to make people feel more comfortable or something or to gain trust.

Like my brother explained I set up adultdesign.biz as I had a lot of clients asking for galleries wich I simply don't do. So thats why me and my brother decided to let him do them. With his years of gallery posting experience he could do the job and he is doing a great job with it.

Juan, don't ever connect my business with your shit ever agian please.
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And you do great work too.
I just shared that story with you so that we can have a laugh over it, now that its all history. For us at least, cos I've just seen this thread:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=380961&s=
Juan is looking for another designer to scam. This guy never stops.

haha jkfc is a real moron, I hope he didn´t find anyone to fuck over this time
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what part of uruguay are you from?
my father is from there anmd I would like to visit that part of the world this year for an extended vacation
Im from Montevideo, the ''D.C.'' Of Uruguay, if you are planning to came here, contact me, you can stay at home, so you can save the money of the Hotel, and buy some beers!;-)

Guys you can find some samples of my work at http://www.scoutingservice.net , i ahve to update that portfolio, cause i have made more designs, some are of excelent quality.

So go there and contact me later

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JFK? a very mysterious guy. he has a lot secrets even up tiill now.
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Im from Montevideo, the ''D.C.'' Of Uruguay, if you are planning to came here, contact me, you can stay at home, so you can save the money of the Hotel, and buy some beers!;-)

Guys you can find some samples of my work at http://www.scoutingservice.net , i ahve to update that portfolio, cause i have made more designs, some are of excelent quality.

So go there and contact me later

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thanks alot btw congrats on the left winning the elections for the first timein 33 years (dont know if thats good or not) anyways i will stay in a hotel and yes im aware of the capital of uruguay thats where my fathers from maye we can hook up when im there
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Yes, it is good, im of the left.
Tell your dad my msn messenger adress and he will know what to do ;-)
My friend, contact me at icq, we can chat, and we can make arrangements for your days at Uruguay, i can be your Tourism Guide Guy!, hehe, free of charge ;)

Contact me at Icq, 255116245

Cya Later friend!
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Weird shit, JKF always payed me for the work i did.
And in real life he's an oke guy
Adultlexicon, if you really do know him in real life, ICQ me at 17-819-733.. you can make some $$$ really easily.
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so, are these scammers coming back for round 2?
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