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Old 09-15-2004, 01:57 AM   #1
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Traffic Banking Officially opens today

Something new in the way we deal with and generate traffic. We all need to make the best use for our traffic so find out how Traffic Banking can help your traffic solutions and make you money. http://www.trafficbanking.com/
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:05 AM   #2
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Cool idea.
make sure you send some of that invested traffic to epic
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:08 AM   #3
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people that rely heavy on scripts get cheated by scripts
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What kind of traffic do you accept? Clicked? 404? Exit?

If I deposit exit traffic, can I withdraw clicked traffic?
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What kind of traffic do you accept? Clicked? 404? Exit?

If I deposit exit traffic, can I withdraw clicked traffic?
Our script measures the quaility so all traffic is welcomed we make adjustments and return the traffic you order.
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:25 AM   #6
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people that rely heavy on scripts get cheated by scripts
The script we've made for this is pure gold. Counts productivity
on a lot more factors then just clicks and has a lot of hidden traps
which will show cheaters up real fast, some of which they might
find and work out but many of which are completely behind the
scenes. Also we have no problem with volume as it?s written in C
and uses RAM to store the data.

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What kind of traffic do you accept? Clicked? 404? Exit?

If I deposit exit traffic, can I withdraw clicked traffic?
Yup, one of the things bout how we track productivity is you can
deposit anything then we can scale how much gets returned
based on the quality of what you send.

You could for example bank a bunch of general 404 and withdraw
targeted shemale traffic. Of course you wouldn't get the same
volume, but the quality would be much higher.

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Old 09-15-2004, 02:50 AM   #7
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I have known Bake for over two years now. He knows traffic. Have seen this traffic banking system getting developed over the months. It looks great!
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:52 AM   #8
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What kind of volumes can you deliver? How many visitors per hour?
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Old 09-15-2004, 02:59 AM   #9
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As far as volume it comes down to what's practical.... If you want
200k/day now that's gunna be hard. However Bake has a lot of
arrangements in place and if we can't handle the volume then the
traffic can be pulled in from elsewhere via partnership deals. So
the short answer is "practically anything" with a "within reason".

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Old 09-15-2004, 03:28 AM   #10
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Is there any sort of traffic quality control? Sounds like you might deposit dollars and get pesos back.
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:54 AM   #11
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When I deposit traffic, what will the landing page be like? Clean? Console hell? Will you have niche speific landing pages?
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Old 09-15-2004, 04:01 AM   #12
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Old 09-15-2004, 04:11 AM   #13
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Interesting idea... good luck with it.
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http://www.thumbscity.com/

The thumbs aren't great atm....
(need more partners [email protected])

As far as return traffic it can be niche and geo-ip targeted.

With all "No Cookie" removed.

Also we can make it so that you get "Exclusive" traffic only.
(which is users first redirected click)....

It's TGP so it's not like it's SE traffic or anything, but if you're
banking garbage it's easy to see you'll get a smaller return of
something more targeted. It can all be negotiated depending on
volume and quality.

Getting a bit late here so replies might take awhile.....

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Old 09-15-2004, 07:55 AM   #17
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Thanx mate... Already going great guns! :-)

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Old 09-15-2004, 09:21 AM   #18
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When I deposit traffic, what will the landing page be like? Clean?
Console hell? Will you have niche speific landing pages?
Yes you can send it to the niche pages to boost productivity.

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Old 09-15-2004, 09:32 AM   #19
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No thanks... I'll pass on this one....
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Sounds pretty good.

Another example you could think of.


If you are looking to start a fetish tgp and only have teen tgp traffic... bank some of that for a while, then when you launch your fetish tgp, make a withdrawl and you've got feeder traffic
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Sounds pretty good.

Another example you could think of.


If you are looking to start a fetish tgp and only have teen tgp traffic... bank some of that for a while, then when you launch your fetish tgp, make a withdrawl and you've got feeder traffic
Yeah but what if you bank a few 100K over a month. Are you sure we can release the 100K and get it all back in one day if we wanted it?
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Yeah but what if you bank a few 100K over a month. Are you sure we can release the 100K and get it all back in one day if we wanted it?
Under normal circumstances returning 100k in a day will not be a problem.
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We'll be putting the terms up shortly....

So depending on the volume needed to be returned we'll need
to be notified so that trades can be adjusted and our overall
volume doesn't get hurt by the withdrawal.

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Bake is the man!

So glad to see this finally gone live.
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Great idea, good luck with that.
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Thanks everyone for the encouraging replies Im sure everyone can benefit someway from this tool
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Old 09-16-2004, 09:45 PM   #29
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99% of all my traffic is CC verified, If I was to bank some of that with you, would you send CC verified traffic back?
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We have a number of ratios that we can use to evaluate the
traffic, such as email ratios, bookmarkers and others. CC isn't one
of them, we'd need to create a billing site like an AVS or
something and intergrade that into it..... Maybe we can add
something in future to sell something from the page and count
that as part of the ratio....

However we are flexible and if you're sending great quality traffic
we can negotiate the returns so that you get a better return
based on that quality.

Give us a yell and we'll work something out.

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Am I the only one who thinks this idea is stupid? Unless you're "depositing" the lowest kind of CJ traffic you don't stand to gain anything from this.
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Interesting..

btw. do you count the prod. on nocookie traffic?
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Am I the only one who thinks this idea is stupid? Unless
you're "depositing" the lowest kind of CJ traffic you don't stand to
gain anything from this.
Think of it as having an exchange rate.... You deposit pesos and
want US dollars in exchange then you'll get less, you deposit
Euros and want pesos in return then you'll get craploads.

Plus it has big advantages for anyone starting new sites..... While
you're working on your new project you deposit the traffic you'd
usually use for starting new projects. Then when your project is
read you withdraw....... Think about it..... You then have both "the
traffic you'd usually use for starting new projects" and the traffic
in the bank. That means double what you usually would have.
Meaning you can give your new project a huge kick-start.

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btw. do you count the prod. on nocookie traffic?
The script is completely different to most trade scripts.
Productivity is based on clicks, bookmarks, emails, cookies,
proxies, volume etc (many things I won't talk about because of
cheaters).

Simple answer.... We do control nocookie traffic and make sure it
goes to the right place and if all your traffic is nocookies then
your "productivity" will be less valuable then someone sending
traffic that bookmarks like crazy and has cookies.

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explain the system a bit.. i dont understand it.
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Cool! I know you guys have been working hard, and this has been in the pipe for a bit now. It looks like you have a very original idea, and I hope you have a lot of success.

Bake and Mr.Yellow are two guys I respect in this biz.
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i hope you are joking if you only store data in the ram it will all be lost if someone reboots the server ?
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i hope you are joking if you only store data in the ram it will all be
lost if someone reboots the server ?
The RAM storage just brings up the response speed and allows
us to process more hits on less database connections. Hits are
moved from RAM to the database, just not a real-time connection
for every single surfer that hits the page.... Different to most
trade programs which are restricted by the volume MySQL can
take (MySQL is a very poor database server compared to say
Oracal). All the trade parts are coded in fast efficient C code and
will have FastCGI code added shortly which will make the whole
thing run as fast as an Apache module, using only 1 process on
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Spent a lot of time planning this system and designing it to be
the fastest and most scalable trade script ever seen. From the
ground up it's quite different to other solutions, however it's still
based on tried and tested methods.

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explain the system a bit.. i dont understand it.
I'll drop in tomorrow again, getting a bit late for now.

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Cool! I know you guys have been working hard, and this has been in the pipe for a bit now. It looks like you have a very original idea, and I hope you have a lot of success.

Bake and Mr.Yellow are two guys I respect in this biz.
Thanks Steve Its nice to here such kind words from someone who is repected in this buis as much as you.
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This seems like an awesome idea

I especially like the fact of being able to trade traffic for other traffic types. That alone could be a site idea in itself, however combined with the banking option should be can't miss

Do you foresee any dating traffic coming through ?

Also, once things are running smoothly, I think you should contact someone like AVN to try and get a story about it in AVN ONline magazine or something....they are always looking for stories on new technologies/ideas.

Good luck, hopefully your script is rock-solid and cheaters won't be a problem for you.
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How do you measure the type of traffic you send back to people?

If I bank a bunch of quality (very productive) traffic, how am I guaranteed that I will recieve quality (very productive) traffic back?

Program looks interesting, just want to know about this.
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The RAM storage just brings up the response speed and allows
us to process more hits on less database connections. Hits are
moved from RAM to the database, just not a real-time connection
for every single surfer that hits the page.... Different to most
trade programs which are restricted by the volume MySQL can
take (MySQL is a very poor database server compared to say
Oracal). All the trade parts are coded in fast efficient C code and
will have FastCGI code added shortly which will make the whole
thing run as fast as an Apache module, using only 1 process on
the server.

Spent a lot of time planning this system and designing it to be
the fastest and most scalable trade script ever seen. From the
ground up it's quite different to other solutions, however it's still
based on tried and tested methods.



I'll drop in tomorrow again, getting a bit late for now.

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The only thing you really have to make sure is that the traffic people get back is at least as good as that they send.

I'd only use it if I'd get interest rates + the guarantee that the traffic I get back is as productive as the one I sent.
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someone like AVN to try and get a story about it in AVN ONline
magazine or something....they are always looking for stories on
new technologies/ideas.
Was contacted by them on the day it was released. Keep your
eyes on AVN ;-)

Also would love to have an xBiz ?Most Innovative? on the mantle
hint hint :-)

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If I bank a bunch of quality (very productive) traffic, how am I
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The only thing you really have to make sure is that the traffic
people get back is at least as good as that they send.
We can send traffic based on niche and Geo-IP targeting (turning
geo-ip on later this month). We can also send from the
newsletter that will be installed this week or from perm links.

We can't measure the productivity/value of the traffic on *your*
site. However if you send good traffic then you'll be returned
more per hit sent then someone sending non-filtered 404. Of
course if you had sent us decent traffic and you feel that what
you're getting back isn't as good then we'll work to make sure
you get back better quality or more volume. Basically it?s a volume
thing, you send quality you get back more then what you sent,
you send low quality and you get back less.

It's impossible for us to evaluate the value of *our* traffic on
*your* site. So it comes down to us evaluating your traffic and
sending returns that represent a valuable return for yourself.

Unlike other TGPs with our system you can login and see the
stats for traffic you bank which gives you the ability to check the
value of *your* traffic on *our* site... Something that is very
handy in adjusting the way in which you send traffic so that you
can get the most out of the system.

Quote:
Have you ever considered coding in Python? In some
articles/benchmarks I've read, it is faster for interacting with
MySQL than C code. It's a language that is basically taken from
parts of C and parts of PHP.
The system is designed so that MySQL isn?t a limiting factor. The
language matters little as long as it can run without chewing
increasingly larger resources. Seeing as C is a compiled language
and can be made to run in a single multi-threaded process and
has access to all the low-level tools required it was an easy
choice.

-Ben
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Old 09-18-2004, 09:54 PM   #45
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Old 09-19-2004, 09:15 PM   #46
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explain the system a bit.. i dont understand it.
Sorry didn't really get back to this one specifically....

Probably the best way to explain is give some examples?..
I?ll do up one now and add some more examples later?.

1.

You're starting a new TGP site. The site won't be ready for a few
weeks but you have traffic that will be sent to it when it's
complete.

While you're finishing up the new TGP site you can bank the
traffic you'll be sending it with us. It might just be some 404 or
maybe a force from another site or some links on galleries,
doesn't matter as it will be evaluated and you'll get back returns
based on it's worth. Lets say you are able to bank 1000 hits of
TGP traffic a day.

Now when the TGP site is ready you withdraw from the bank. This
gives you 1000 hits a day from the bank as well as 1000 hits a
day from your original source. So now instead of launching with
1000 hits a day, you have 2000 to launch with, giving your new
TGP site a much-needed boost.

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Old 09-21-2004, 06:34 PM   #47
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2.

You run a TGP site and know that if anything breaks your trades will likely die. It will take you another month or more to get back to where you were. You can put a small percentage of your traffic in the bank each day. Then if anything happens such as your server going down or trade script breaking or even if you go on holidays and don't update galleries. Now instead of your site slipping you can withdraw from the bank and boost it back to where it should be.

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Old 09-21-2004, 06:36 PM   #48
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gonna check it out in a sec
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:34 PM   #49
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3.

Your hosting goes down and you're having some trouble getting
scripts and sites set back up again. You can redirect your site to
us, or maybe even park it on our servers and we'll bank the traffic
for you and return it later when you're back on your feet.

-Ben
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Old 09-22-2004, 05:57 PM   #50
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"banking"... is there any type of interest accruing while you work with our banked traffic?
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