Why are people buying TGP spots?

[Liquid_cash]

TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

[TDF]

ever heard of surfer confidence?

[Spunky]

Because they can...

[Crypt]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

If you need to ask, you are not in the good business

[Lane]

Tell that to GTS

[MikeVega]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

Dude ....we know your selling lists just get to it.....

[Groove]

They buy them 'cause they like the bling

[Slick]

Aparently those people buying the spots must be making a profit on buying those spots, otherwise they'd be throwing their money away.

It's all about the sponsor an the galleries that you're using. If you get the right combo, you can get good conversions.

[fris]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

without people submitting galleries each day their would be no tgp's

[Liquid_cash]

I dont understand...If the spot on the TGP is worth $2k why sell it for $1k? Why dont they just have free hosted galleries there and keep all the cash?

[BlackCrayon]

probably because opt-in lists are very expensive and most don't have the know how to get the mail out anyways.

[FlyingIguana]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

because they make money?

and also a spot may be worth 2k to someone who can convert it. hosted galleries are crap and overused and won't make anywhere near as much as a good fresh gallery. the tgp owner is good as building and maintaining tgp's, but maybe not at creating galleries. so he can maximize revenues by selling spots to people who can make galleries better than he can, not to mention giving surfers more variety.

[NickB.]

I've been sending traffic to a sponsor from a non-sold listing, they contacted me about them willing to buy the spots and make more profit.

It's all about converting and doing some research

[michel]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
because they make money?

and also a spot may be worth 2k to someone who can convert it. hosted galleries are crap and overused and won't make anywhere near as much as a good fresh gallery. the tgp owner is good as building and maintaining tgp's, but maybe not at creating galleries. so he can maximize revenues by selling spots to people who can make galleries better than he can, not to mention giving surfers more variety.

Well said

[foolio]

Originally posted by Crypt
If you need to ask, you are not in the good business

[Video-Post]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

Because they make money on it, stupid.

[Kristian]

TGP can convert better than SE. You need to get the right timing, sponsor, content and design. If a spot costs $2k, I'd expect it to generate $4K to $8K, depending on the above criteria. TGP owners sell spots so they have a certain degree of fixed - as opposed to variable - income; extending their revenue streams.

[stocktrader23]

What kind of question is this?

To humor you, because they make a profit....

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by Slick
Aparently those people buying the spots must be making a profit on buying those spots, otherwise they'd be throwing their money away.

many people spend money on PPC SE's and lose it. But then new guys are doing the same.

I would expect only slightly more than 50% of PPc Se's listed sites to make profit. The rest are just webmasters experementing with it and hope it's easy money. I am sure many people who bought gallery spots don't even make their money back.

[digifan]

Originally posted by Kristian
TGP can convert better than SE. You need to get the right timing, sponsor, content and design. If a spot costs $2k, I'd expect it to generate $4K to $8K, depending on the above criteria. TGP owners sell spots so they have a certain degree of fixed - as opposed to variable - income; extending their revenue streams.

[David!]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

Dude !!! I'm getting a Dell

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by Kristian
TGP can convert better than SE. You need to get the right timing, sponsor, content and design. If a spot costs $2k, I'd expect it to generate $4K to $8K, depending on the above criteria. TGP owners sell spots so they have a certain degree of fixed - as opposed to variable - income; extending their revenue streams.

TGP traffic will never convert better than SE traffic if you have the ability to market to both. TGP traffic can make good money but give me 100k of se hits or 100k of traffic from any TGP and I know what'll make me the most every time.

[Kristian]

Originally posted by Tipsy
TGP traffic will never convert better than SE traffic if you have the ability to market to both. TGP traffic can make good money but give me 100k of se hits or 100k of traffic from any TGP and I know what'll make me the most every time.

In most cases, on the whole, this holds true. However, I've spent a lot of energy honing tgp traffic, and my above criteria is true in my experience. It essentailly boils down to filtering and defining a presently desirable (or hot) USP.

SE traffic is good becaus of intense filtering mechanisms. I use it myself every second of the day. The trick is to hone TGP to such an extreme. Don't take my word for it, but it can be done...

[Crypt]

Originally posted by Tipsy
TGP traffic will never convert better than SE traffic if you have the ability to market to both. TGP traffic can make good money but give me 100k of se hits or 100k of traffic from any TGP and I know what'll make me the most every time.

i concur

[Tipsy]

Originally posted by Kristian
In most cases, on the whole, this holds true. However, I've spent a lot of energy honing tgp traffic, and my above criteria is true in my experience. It essentailly boils down to filtering and defining a presently desirable (or hot) USP.

SE traffic is good becaus of intense filtering mechanisms. I use it myself every second of the day. The trick is to hone TGP to such an extreme. Don't take my word for it, but it can be done...

You're still very wrong. If you're 'filtering' then it sounds like your waffling on about ratios. That's not the same thing as sales.

Again take 100k of TGP traffic (we're talking raw traffic here, not 'filtered') and 100k of SE traffic and the SE traffic will make more every time.

If you're going to pre-quality and filter traffic first then you could also take the SE traffic and do the same to that before sending it to a sponsor. You have to compare like for like. For raw hits to a single page on my server anybody with the ability to market to both will make far more from SE hits to a page optimised for the traffic than TGP hits to a gallery.

[Kristian]

Originally posted by Tipsy
You're still very wrong. If you're 'filtering' then it sounds like your waffling on about ratios. That's not the same thing as sales.

Again take 100k of TGP traffic (we're talking raw traffic here, not 'filtered') and 100k of SE traffic and the SE traffic will make more every time.

If you're going to pre-quality and filter traffic first then you could also take the SE traffic and do the same to that before sending it to a sponsor. You have to compare like for like. For raw hits to a single page on my server anybody with the ability to market to both will make far more from SE hits to a page optimised for the traffic than TGP hits to a gallery.

Tipsy,

To say that I am wrong, point blank, is both arrogant and rather thoughtless. I also object to you saying that I waffle. Your rudeness, however, is more than expected (given my experience on GFY thus far).

I agree with your point on the whole. I'm merely pointing out that, through considerable effort on my part, I have been able to hone tgp traffic to an extent where it is as useful to me as equally well-honed SE traffic.

Your theory on the whole is, obviously, correct. We all accept the supremacy of SE traffic. That's a given. I just wanted to point out my experience with tgp traffic.

In my opinion, instead if insulting me, you might have asked "how"? I'm one of the more helpful webmasters you could meet, because I have had much help myself.

[Brujah]

Originally posted by Liquid_cash
TGP traffic burns serious bandwidth and doesnt convert very well. Opt in mailers from legit companies are much cheaper and convert better. So why are people paying $1k per month plus for the TGP spots?

cause TGP Owners gotta eat too.

[EscortBiz]

One of 3 reasons

a) they have their galleries rejected because they are shit so they decide to pay (and mostlikly lose money)

b) they had their galleries listed on a regular listing and it did shit so they assume paying for a top spot will change things (wont do much for them)

c) they had a gallery that did real well and decided to get more traffic to it from the same TGP so they pay for a better spot (will mostlikly pay off)

[Spunky]

Originally posted by fris
without people submitting galleries each day their would be no tgp's

Get your head out of your ass...