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You need to get your ass into a church or a mosque for re-indoctrination. Free thinking like that could be dangerous to national security!

Shit, am I on a list now?!

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I am aware of the quote, and yes I am calling him ignorant for equating a low probability with NO probability.

Like I said in my first post, I am not about to argue religion, dogma or human insecurities, especially not on gfy..

that's a good one, if you were being sarcastic

You're a pretty clueless fella, aren't you? You obviously know nothing about hermeneutics. Moreover, you don't really seem to care, so I'm not going to waste much time explaining it to you.

Look at the new testament letters of Paul. These letters were clearly written to specific people for a particular purpose. These letters comtain (1) a number of things that are relevant ONLY for the persons the letters were written to, and (2) a number of generalizations, which are timeless. If you don't know how to separate the two, you will mistinerpret.

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EVERYTHING has a probability. The probability that life came into existence on its own is equivalent to the probability of a sudden wind sweeping through a junkyard and randomly assembling all the junk into a working 747. Maybe that's a THEORETICAL possibility, but it's a practical IMPOSSIBILITY.

Boobmaster if you make it to heaven i'll become a priest :1orglaugh

Who says that I'm gonna make it to heaven?

Remind me again of the probability of God coming into existance on his/her/its own?

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Religion is evil!!

This has nothing to do with the believe in a higher being.

Forcing a believe on someone is not right and will never be.

There are islamic fanatics and if you look closely in your own country you see the christian fanatics. Fanatics are in the minority in every religion but they always get the best publicity as they work the hardest to destroy any other believe.

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...and anyway, the muslim is the evil one, not the islam.

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boobmaster obviously is a troll and a really annoying one ,

his views are ignorant , he is a chrisian , he votes fo bush


so please people do not respond to his threads, they will die and he will leave

I have read the kuran and i've studied islam.

"all governments of the world must be under the rule of islam and death is the only punishment for those who refuse."

call me whatever names you wish, it won't change the facts.

evil is very subjective

Wow Izz is a pretty level headed guy and not quick to strike out at people which lets me know that he is getting tired of this.

Let me add in.

A Muslim extremist does not agree with anyone who is not as extreme as they are, our muslim neighbors are their enemy just as we are. The extremist are not as big a group as you think and most people, even their own family members do not always agree or support them. Kinda makes me laugh when people think otherwise, like catholics who think the KKK is cool, they will burn a cross on your yard and hang you from a tree just as fast as they would a black or mexican. Extremist always only accept a very specific group into their "organizations"


There is no interpretation of the bible, that is why we have all the issues we have now. Remember the books are in a certain order but that does not mean they are chronological. You do not need to interpret anything, you need to read the whole thing and get an understanding. You have to study it, reading it and then linking parts from differant books together to get the whole meaning. Also remember it is split into the Old and New, which also mean the old way of doing things (multiple wives, eye for an eye, slaves etc) and the New way of doing things. It is a confusing text but to master it you must STUDY it and give much time to learning it. One passage in the bible may have a counter somewhere in another book.

What is being done is simular to walking in and out of a movie that has flashbacks and trying to tell people in the lobby what is going on. Depending on where you are in the movie what you interpret will be completely differant than what the story is saying.

3.3 billion people who believe an imaginary monster lives in the center of the earth that will punish them if they dont worship the imaginary friend in the sky. Protect yourselves!

Isn't it amazing that the 1300000000 still have not launched a genicidal war against every non muslim on the face of the planet? Perhaps the ratio of muslims to non muslims has not changed that much while you were drawing breath into your lungs. Maybe, just maybe all muslims do not follow that part of the Kuran that says kill everyone who is not like you just like every christian does not wait till being married to have sex? Do you follow your religion 100% or do you stray or throw out the things that just seem like they do not fit with the times or may have been told to you to control you? Do you think maybe they could have done the same?

for the one that called me an "ignorant something" quotes from the koran, i guess you are a muslim and it's an insult to allah that you don't know the koran (and i am not even a muslim):

The Family of Imran:

[3.19] Surely the (true) religion with Allah is Islam, and those to whom the Book had been given did not show opposition but after knowledge had come to them, out of envy among themselves; and whoever disbelieves in the communications of Allah then surely Allah is quick in reckoning.

[3.85] And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.

The Prophets:

[21.98] Surely you and what you worship besides Allah are the firewood of hell; to it you shall come.

there are lots more quotes that refer to it in the koran, on some other day i'll quote some more if it interests anyone.

excuse me, but multiple wives is still "in use" in most of the muslim world. that's why they multiply so fast.

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There are only a few translations into english that have been certified to not have butchered translations that make any sense when differances in terms are brought into play.


For instance. To walk on the waters, was an old way of saying that you were walking on the beach. Therefor when text is translated litteraly without taking into effect the way people said things you get "Jesus walked on the waters" which would lead you to believe he was walking over water with his power, bring into the light the fact that it was a way of saying things back then and you get. "Jesus walked next to the lake"

I can not say I have read one of the versions of the Kuran that has been approved to take into effect literal and current speech translations but the very wording used in the things you posted make me question their integrity. Not attacking you, just playing devil's advocate.

It was from a biblical text which I thought I made clear when I said in the bible. You can also have multiple wives if you are mormon but I did not quote anything from the book or mormon.

http://www.islamicweb.com/begin/myth10.htm

Allah is one of the names of God. If you are a christian or jew, you are still worshiping Allah, even if thats not the name you are using for him.

Keep proving your ignorance, its funny.

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rad·i·cal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (rd-kl)
adj.
Arising from or going to a root or source; basic: proposed a radical solution to the problem.
Departing markedly from the usual or customary; extreme: radical opinions on education.
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Here in america people who shoot abortion clinic doctors screaming "An eye for an eye" are Radical Christians. We view them the same way many Muslims see radical Muslims. Think I am comparing apples and oranges? Think for a moment what would happen if the US government and local law enforement went into Texas and states like Utah, Wyoming and Montana and declared war on radical christians, think they would leave their compounds peacefully or would they fight to their last against the evil oppresive godless force of the US government. You think they would not fight using the same tactics as the muslim radicals, you think there is a big differance in them because they speak english and are usually W.A.S.P.

But you see the other christians do not support nor help them even though they follow supposidly the same religion. All muslims are not radical, most of them are not, all christians are not radical, most of them are not. See my point?

God did not create man, man created god.

Humans are sheep, and will always be sheep.

aha, have i said that allah is not god? where exactly did i say it?

read before you call someone with names.


can't agree with you more :)


jade_dragon:

most muslims approve and worship bin laden and what he did, and for all who are so smart: you never lived near by muslims in islamic countries so you can't even begin to understand what is islam.
all your knowledge is based on "yeah there are bad muslims who attacked us on 9-11".

that's pretty sad, but on the other hand i think that all are going to suffer in the future, first of all those who don't understand what is islam.

Some of us were unplugged from the Matrix :winkwink:

Muslim=Evil. Evil Evil Evil Evil Evil Evil Evil

bottom line is that wherever there are muslims in large consintrations there are troubles.

if you need some examples just call me by name as some of you are used to :)

When you have european soccer fans in large concentrations there is trouble, what is your point?

Beginnings and endings ONLY have meaning within time. God exists OUTSIDE of time, so the question is irrelevant. He has always been.

Nice story.

And a convenient copout!

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..... and you are a moron who registered in 2001 and only started posting yesterday. My theory: A troll is using a REAL webmaster's computer for the weekend.

good theory, maybe 9-11 was runned by english soccer fans :)

You don't have to be married to a woman to get her pregnant....

That's not a cop out. TIME does not exist outside the universe. In the absence of TIME, things can't come into existence.

yeah and tell me for instance what will happened to a woman who's pregnant and not married in any of the 25 arab nations :)

I don't like black muslims, they believe black ppl are the superior race. Kinda like Hitler but for blacks...

How do you know that something can exist outside the universe? You don't.

How do you know that time does not exist outside the universe? You don't.

How do you know that in the absence of time things can't come into existance? You don't.

Thanks for playing booby.

jade_dragon:

most muslims approve and worship bin laden and what he did, and for all who are so smart: you never lived near by muslims in islamic countries so you can't even begin to understand what is islam.
all your knowledge is based on "yeah there are bad muslims who attacked us on 9-11".

that's pretty sad, but on the other hand i think that all are going to suffer in the future, first of all those who don't understand what is islam. [/B][/QUOTE]

Did you get out and poll to get this information or is this some gross generalization you have made. I think it is the second and if you are honest with yourself you will say the same. I am on the net most of the day and I have extensive lists of contacts I do business with in other countries as well as people from around the world who I talk to. Many muslims that I have talked to in chats do not support the radical muslims and their actions. Some say America got retribution for a lot of dirty things they have done but they do not support the killing of our innocent (karma if you will). I also have some converted muslims in my family as well as friends who are muslim. They are good people and they do not think that everyone who is not muslim must be purged, they have the same regret for the fate of the souls of those who are not muslim at the end of the world as my christian friends. They believe that their religion is the chosen one much the same as the others and they only want others to convert so when time ends we can share the after life with them and not be lost to whatever concequence their religions have for being wrong, this is because they care.

I know most of you think this is utter bullshit but this is what most of the poeple I have talked to have said. None have pushed it on me and said I was an infidel and would burn in hell for not changing my views. So of all the people I talked to I have not come across any muslim that has been radical. Not saying they do not exist, I am just saying all are not and I would bet that most are not or that 130000000 would have started a major war on everyone's turf by now wouldn't you think?

How many of that number are African Americans who learned about Islam while in jail? How many are converts after being in the catholic religion. How many converted to marry?

The string Muslim = middle eastern = radical = they want to kill you does not hold true. Radical muslims are no differant than Radical Christians other than they are on camera right now because they have been given something to fight against.

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What does that have to do with the multiplying