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Old 09-15-2004, 08:19 PM   #1
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Fucking Canadian economy.

Fucking weak american economy and stronger canadian economy.

FUCKING analysts are saying the american dollar will be worth 1.15$ Canadian before the end of the year.

WTF.
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:20 PM   #2
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:21 PM   #3
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where the fuck are those 1.60$ good ol' days.
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:22 PM   #4
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:23 PM   #5
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:23 PM   #6
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hmm my dollar is still worth a dollar, till such time I give fuck all....cheers
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:36 PM   #7
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:46 PM   #9
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Damn it! I knew I was getting less change back
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:47 PM   #10
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:52 PM   #11
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FUCKING analysts are saying the american dollar will be worth 1.15$ Canadian before the end of the year.

WTF.

That is something I don't want to see.
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Old 09-15-2004, 08:53 PM   #12
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Yep.. get Kerry in office and all our troubles will be over.. everything will be wonderful.. then when we least expect it.. there will be an attack that will make 911 look like an episode of the Teletubies.
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:06 PM   #14
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:08 PM   #15
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Yep.. get Kerry in office and all our troubles will be over.. everything will be wonderful.. then when we least expect it.. there will be an attack that will make 911 look like an episode of the Teletubies.


Looks like Cheney convinced at least one sheep...
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Btw.. the fucking australian $ was higher than the can$ not too long ago.. now it dropped! Cant we do the same!??
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:11 PM   #17
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The exchange is killing me. My income has easily dropped $1000/month from the good ol' days.
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Yep.. get Kerry in office and all our troubles will be over.. everything will be wonderful.. then when we least expect it.. there will be an attack that will make 911 look like an episode of the Teletubies.
And you think it won't happen with Bush?
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It sucks doesn't it.... I got $1.273 today... just before Bush started the Iraq war it was $1.55. Just one of the reasons he's in my "bad book". Bush is costing me tens of $1,000s a year in revenue. What a fuck up as far as managing the US economy. I could have bought another house or two with the money I've lost because of that idiot.
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:58 PM   #20
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Fucking weak american economy and stronger canadian economy.

FUCKING analysts are saying the american dollar will be worth 1.15$ Canadian before the end of the year.

WTF.
where are all those idiots who said to keep us dollars in a chequeing account until the rate got better?
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Old 09-15-2004, 09:59 PM   #21
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It sucks doesn't it.... I got $1.273 today... just before Bush started the Iraq war it was $1.55. Just one of the reasons he's in my "bad book". Bush is costing me tens of $1,000s a year in revenue. What a fuck up as far as managing the US economy. I could have bought another house or two with the money I've lost because of that idiot.
even if gore got in, the us dollar was overvalued. might not have went down as much, but 1.55+ wasn't gonna last
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Fucking weak american economy and stronger canadian economy.

FUCKING analysts are saying the american dollar will be worth 1.15$ Canadian before the end of the year.

WTF.
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Guys, guys, guys... you're looking at this all wrong.

Okay, the exchange situation is a bad thing, granted. On an individual basis we'll feel the pinch, but if your margins are so razor-thin that the loss of conversion makes you go under, then chances are your business was already on its last legs and you needed to strike off in new directions anyways.

There's a few things can be done to help cushion the blow here...

* Start cutting deals with people who pay in euros. The euro has been gaining steadily over the last couple years and it looks as though it's going to continue. Ditto with the UKP, AUD, Yen, and Rupee... at least, all in comparison with the USD. Diversification is always the best method to mitigate risk.

* Obtain a US funds account so you can perform your own currency speculation and sell when the CAD is down somewhat. There'll still be fluctuations even if it tops out at $1.15. Chances are it won't go any higher than that unless the US economy really starts to collapse on itself. Keep an eye on real estate... if that debt-bubble bursts, it'll be time to divest USD imo.

* If you aren't already, start hosting in the US. As their dollar goes down, so does your hosting costs!

For what it's worth, our economy has been powering along so well that even despite SARS, Mad Cow, and various illegal trade sanctions we've had yet another surplus year. The benefits of that are already being made manifest: witness today's historic agreement in big boosts for medicare.

So as much as you spite the bush regime and disdain the fiscal devastation its leaving in its wake, you can take comfort in knowing that Canada as a whole will benefit from the situation.

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Old 09-15-2004, 10:07 PM   #24
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Guys, guys, guys... you're looking at this all wrong.

Okay, the exchange situation is a bad thing, granted. On an individual basis we'll feel the pinch, but if your margins are so razor-thin that the loss of conversion makes you go under, then chances are your business was already on its last legs and you needed to strike off in new directions anyways.

There's a few things can be done to help cushion the blow here...

* Start cutting deals with people who pay in euros. The euro has been gaining steadily over the last couple years and it looks as though it's going to continue. Ditto with the UKP, AUD, Yen, and Rupee... at least, all in comparison with the USD. Diversification is always the best method to mitigate risk.

* Obtain a US funds account so you can perform your own currency speculation and sell when the CAD is down somewhat. There'll still be fluctuations even if it tops out at $1.15. Chances are it won't go any higher than that unless the US economy really starts to collapse on itself. Keep an eye on real estate... if that debt-bubble bursts, it'll be time to divest USD imo.

* If you aren't already, start hosting in the US. As their dollar goes down, so does your hosting costs!

For what it's worth, our economy has been powering along so well that even despite SARS, Mad Cow, and various illegal trade sanctions we've had yet another surplus year. The benefits of that are already being made manifest: witness today's historic agreement in big boosts for medicare.

So as much as you spite the bush regime and disdain the fiscal devastation its leaving in its wake, you can take comfort in knowing that Canada as a whole will benefit from the situation.
nobody likes making less for the same work. after the kick in the nuts over the past year or so, this is like another kick.

who the hell pays in euros? everything is so US $ based.
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nobody likes making less for the same work. after the kick in the nuts over the past year or so, this is like another kick.

who the hell pays in euros? everything is so US $ based.
We're all feeling the pinch, or at least everyone who earns in USD. We just have to adapt, either by expanding into other markets or into other industries.

I know it feels good to bitch about it, but it doesn't accomplish much. Better to turn that energy into new ways of earning and finding how to best exploit the weak USD.

Maybe this would be a good time for a call to get spammed by partners who pay in anything but USD...
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Old 09-15-2004, 10:29 PM   #26
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Lol, until you convert $1 = 10 yen? Still worth $1 ya know.
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So it was bugging me about what's "caused" this drop in the exchange rate.. so I just grabbed the exchange rates since Jan 2000 ($1.45) ... the rate was going up slightly.. 9/11 ($1.56) happened and there wasn't even a dip.. nada.. nice and steady.. a dip around Jul/02 but it gets back up to about the same level.. then.. Jan 28,2003 ($1.54) Bush does state of the union address where he says he's ready to attack Iraq without a UN mandate... the exchange rate starts to head down a bit.. sort of hard to tell for sure.. But war starts Mar 20th ($1.47) and the exchange heads on down "end of major combat" May 1 ($1.42) until about Mid June 20 ($1.34). Gone up and down a bit from there..

Data exchange rates I used were actually higher than what one would get at the bank.

I don't know.. When you see the graph over the last 3.5 years it seems pretty obvious that the war triggered the drop.
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So it was bugging me about what's "caused" this drop in the exchange rate.. so I just grabbed the exchange rates since Jan 2000 ($1.45) ... the rate was going up slightly.. 9/11 ($1.56) happened and there wasn't even a dip.. nada.. nice and steady.. a dip around Jul/02 but it gets back up to about the same level.. then.. Jan 28,2003 ($1.54) Bush does state of the union address where he says he's ready to attack Iraq without a UN mandate... the exchange rate starts to head down a bit.. sort of hard to tell for sure.. But war starts Mar 20th ($1.47) and the exchange heads on down "end of major combat" May 1 ($1.42) until about Mid June 20 ($1.34). Gone up and down a bit from there..

Data exchange rates I used were actually higher than what one would get at the bank.

I don't know.. When you see the graph over the last 3.5 years it seems pretty obvious that the war triggered the drop.
Do an overly graph of the exchange rate of CAD/USD against the cost of light crude oil per barrel at the same time...

... and then check up on how much trade we do with the US in natural resources.
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Do an overly graph of the exchange rate of CAD/USD against the cost of light crude oil per barrel at the same time...

... and then check up on how much trade we do with the US in natural resources.
Too much work man. Took me longer to type the message than to get the data into Excel and make the graph.. Why don't you just "tell" me about it..

Besides, I'm sure things like crude oil prices etc. could also be attributed to the war. Or could be "spun" that way.
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We're all feeling the pinch, or at least everyone who earns in USD. We just have to adapt, either by expanding into other markets or into other industries.

I know it feels good to bitch about it, but it doesn't accomplish much. Better to turn that energy into new ways of earning and finding how to best exploit the weak USD.

Maybe this would be a good time for a call to get spammed by partners who pay in anything but USD...
who says i'm wasting energy complaining? i'm just stating facts...
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So it was bugging me about what's "caused" this drop in the exchange rate.. so I just grabbed the exchange rates since Jan 2000 ($1.45) ... the rate was going up slightly.. 9/11 ($1.56) happened and there wasn't even a dip.. nada.. nice and steady.. a dip around Jul/02 but it gets back up to about the same level.. then.. Jan 28,2003 ($1.54) Bush does state of the union address where he says he's ready to attack Iraq without a UN mandate... the exchange rate starts to head down a bit.. sort of hard to tell for sure.. But war starts Mar 20th ($1.47) and the exchange heads on down "end of major combat" May 1 ($1.42) until about Mid June 20 ($1.34). Gone up and down a bit from there..

Data exchange rates I used were actually higher than what one would get at the bank.

I don't know.. When you see the graph over the last 3.5 years it seems pretty obvious that the war triggered the drop.
there was talk that the usd was gonna drop long before 9/11. it just made the process accelerate
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I think all of us canadians working in this biz are unhappy with that too since we get us checks wich worthed a lot more money 3 years ago.
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Man that's one funky-assed long postal code. Holy shit. That must be one of those "special" postal codes I've heard so much about, and the people at Canada post won't talk about.
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Man that's one funky-assed long postal code. Holy shit. That must be one of those "special" postal codes I've heard so much about, and the people at Canada post won't talk about.
think its for the igloo communities in northern labrador
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where are all those idiots who said to keep us dollars in a chequeing account until the rate got better?
I'm one of those idiots. It has gone up and down. I have both US and CDN bank accts. Both business and personal. I exchange as I see fit. Seeing as tho I get paid in both US and CDN dollars I don't feel as tho I am an idiot. Quite frankly, I can survive just fine off the CDN bank account while my US accounts flourish. I use the US money when paying in US and my personal US account when going to the US or anywhere else that accepts US currency. IMO the idiots are the ones that solely rely on the US $.
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Old 09-16-2004, 06:55 PM   #43
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Old 09-16-2004, 07:43 PM   #44
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for some reason it seems wierd to me that people are bitching because their economy is strong.
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Old 09-16-2004, 08:51 PM   #45
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for some reason it seems wierd to me that people are bitching because their economy is strong.
yeah but i get paid in american...so i have already seen a 20% decrease in my earnings..that is hard to make up...and if it drops again..it just sucks..lol
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Old 09-16-2004, 08:53 PM   #46
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thats not cool at all
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Old 09-16-2004, 08:56 PM   #47
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I'm one of those idiots. It has gone up and down. I have both US and CDN bank accts. Both business and personal. I exchange as I see fit. Seeing as tho I get paid in both US and CDN dollars I don't feel as tho I am an idiot. Quite frankly, I can survive just fine off the CDN bank account while my US accounts flourish. I use the US money when paying in US and my personal US account when going to the US or anywhere else that accepts US currency. IMO the idiots are the ones that solely rely on the US $.
how are you an idiot if in your business companies only pay in american dollars?

i thought it was funny when people said the rate would go back up when it never came close and is still dropping.
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