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Rich · 09-12-2004, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by sacX
He was probably referring to me .

I'm not German either, but I do live here.

ahh I see, you're right. This guy is obviously easily confused, he quoted one of my posts and said "ok mr German".

I was like WTF, Canada never killed any jews! lol

We've rested on our morals since we burned down the White House.

sacX · 09-12-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Outcome of 1) Those shells are later used to kill 50 american soldiers as well as those who oppose them including any forces that are there also fighting against them, perhaps some of your countrymen

Outcome of 2) Those 100 were most likely going to be created anyway, almost every dead iraqi is a martyr to the people, I know the kids killing is bad but that is the way it is going to be in war. Us before them.

You think there has ever been a war where enemy civilians who did not remove themselves from the war zone were hit? The only reason it has not happened to us is because usually war does not happen on our soil. Once again hard to distinguish the neurtal from the opposing when you fight gurilla warfare, and yes the kids do fight also, 13 year olds with AK-47's. The best thing to do if you are neutral is just sit still, hide if possible and get out of town.

When was the last guerilla war that was won with conventional military power?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-12-2004, 01:17 PM

Take from a bigger picture...

Saddam gave money to Palestinian Terrorist familes.
He trained trerrorists and funded the Palestinian cause.

He violated UN Resolutions.
He Killed his own people but the thousands.
H invaded Quate and lewted it and lit up thousands of Oil wells...

Ya think he is a good guy?

Don't forget that the US really wanted to finish off Saddam when he hit Quate but guess who stopped us?

Iraq was inevitable, they would continue to fuel the fires in Palestine, just like Iran, Syria and other Islamic Nations that feed terrorist organizations.

Everyone wanted the USa to handle the Isreali, Palestinian conflict. They wanted it so bad some of them Declared war on the US...

Think some about why it is this way today...

sacX · 09-12-2004, 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
OK Mr German.

I get an idea of what your country has done in the past. We know what would have happened to the Jewish people in your hands.
In history plenty of German tanks have blown up on civilian streets, some of the same streets America is fighting on today.

So after we kicked your intelligent asses and beat you into submssion the world Community agreed with the Islamic Nations about a Soverign Isreal. Thats what this war is about at the core. Thats the root of this war.
It goes way way back...

And ever since you German's have sat on your asses and commented about everything the world did around you...

Well like I said I'm not German, but I've lived here the last 6 months so I've taken an interest in their position here.

Germans love the USA. The Germans were not beaten by the US in WW2, they were annihiliated by the Red Army.
Every German wanted the US to come and occupy, because they feared what Soviet troops would do after the horror of the Eastern front.

Then the US, protected West Germany from the Soviets, the airlift to Berlin when it was cut off from the rest of Germany and JFK coming and speaking pledging support.

After the war a lot of Germans were obviously brought up fatherless, so huge maternal influence, and guilt for what happened in ww2, but also a HUGE feeling that war should always be the last resort, the resorting to war is always a failure of other means.

Sometimes war is unavoidable, we all know that, but this war in Iraq was never one of those wars.

Rich · 09-12-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
"A US helicopter gunship opened fire with missiles and machine-guns at a crowd swarming around the vehicle who were cheering and throwing stones.

Two children and a journalist for an Arabic TV news channel, al-Arabiyya, were among those killed. "

Not 30.

3.

In this scenerio. BUt I love how you international quarterback pump up the numbers

I would say the American Weaponry is some pretty precise equipment to just pick off two kids and a journalist. I wonder if they were chained to the vehicle by opposing forces at this point or somthing.

Rich - I mis quoated you, the verse was meant for SacX.

You don't really understand the word "among", do you?

It would probably be best for you to go back to school for about half a decade before you decide to attempt to talk about world issues again. Just a friendly tip.

baddog · 09-12-2004, 01:23 PM

Sounds to me like Iraqis are killing more Iraqis than we are

jade_dragon · 09-12-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
That's the most pathetic cop out possible, you're a FUCKING DEMOCRACY. Americans have repeatedly continued to support Presidents who have killed hundreds of thousands of people illegally, and even ones who have traded arms with, I don't know, IRAN.

The government works for you, not the other way around, don't forget that. The only reason the US government has been able to run wild is because the people don't challenge them on it. I mean, Reagan fought illegal wars in South America and gave weapons to Iran, I've got an idea... let's elect Bush!

It's not your leaders fault, there will always be crazy people trying to lead countries into war. It's the peoples fault for being stupid enough to let them. It's not Reagan's fault he trained and armed Bin Laden, it's your fault you let him while you weren't paying attention.

There is a differance between a cop out and a reason. I did not say it was an excuse I told you how it is. I dunno who told you we all support the president or this war, reading the posts should give you an idea. I do not think the country has been in such direct opposition over leadership and policy since the Civil War. There were more than a few years between Reagan and Bush by the way which means there were more than a few million new voters who may or may not have known about that situation. THEN we have all the contraversy over weither the president elect was even elected. Then you have to take into the idea of the electoral college and the fact that the votes of the people are not counted on a whole to decide. This whole thing has not gone over without a hitch and there is a lot of opposition and lots of leasons that were learned with all of this.

You probably think that all Americans are violent and will kill and fight when they do not get our way. So you honestly think we should overthrow the government right now while at war? We are a democrative country as you said, and that means we show opposition and go through the proper channels and we fight as a last resourt. So no we are not going to go overthrow our government over this, we will say we oppose it using our free speach. Our leaders should then listen to us UNLESS our ideas are not good for our country. The average American is not in a position to lead this country, just like I do not believe you would particuraly make a good military leader based on your comments here. Not attacking you just making a point, you would be a push over as a leader and probably wait to long to fight against a threat, this is why you are not in leadership, this is why the American people do not make decisions on things of this mannor.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-12-2004, 01:26 PM

I know "Amoung" does not mean 30!

jade_dragon · 09-12-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by sacX
When was the last guerilla war that was won with conventional military power?

Actually history tells us that the gurillas usually win. American revolution and vietnam are in our direct history. We are taught we won using it and Vietnam we lost because we fought against it.

Rich · 09-12-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Sounds to me like Iraqis are killing more Iraqis than we are

Oh Lord please no, not Baddog, this thread can't take any more ignorance. One more uneducated person giving his "opinion" about why the US is always right and this board is going to start malfunctioning.

extreme · 09-12-2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
Remember, we went there. Nobody from Iraq attacked us. We are the hostile invaders. The whole unnecessary 'war' was Americas choice. Every American that dies there is ultimately Bushs fault. The tens of thousands of civillians dead are also Bushs fault. When the family members of those slaughtered Iraqis turn to terrorism to avenge their loved ones, blame Bush. They won't be blowing us up because they hate 'freedom', they'll be blowing us up because our bombing killed their brother.

If this were in Afghanistan, all these justifications would be perfectly valid. If this were Afghanistan, the world would still support us. But Iraq never attacked us and the whole world knows it. Because we invaded a sovereign nation without provocation we have proved everything Osama preaches, and his army has now mutiplied to a hundred times its strength pre-9/11. AlienQ is wrong; thanks to Bush, we won't have enough bullets for them all.

We had a chance to end the immediate threat if we had only pursued Al Queda ... and then 'conquered' the rest of the muslim world simply by americanizing them with our media and commerical products. That is americas best weapon; movies, music, the internet. Those temptations are our propaganda; and it had already started to creep into the middle east and transform their youth culture. But now that goal is further away than ever. Every "american" idea will be rejected for another generation.

good post.

baddog · 09-12-2004, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
You don't really understand the word "among", do you?

It would probably be best for you to go back to school for about half a decade before you decide to attempt to talk about world issues again. Just a friendly tip.

Before you start correcting people perhaps you should read a little closer.

There is nothing in that article to indicate how many people were killed in that incident. Two children and a reporter were among the 40 killed today, in multiple incidents. For all we know, they were the only 3 killed in that particular incident.

Also, as pointed out, there is nothing that indicates that the 4 soldiers had already been rescued from the tank before the chopper came in. My money would be on them still being inside.

donnie · 09-12-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
They were dancing and laughing around the American vehicle they had just destroyed.

They aren't dancing and laughing now.

They were dancing an laughing at all the Palestinian children they had killed.

They aren't dancing and laughing now.

sacX · 09-12-2004, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Actually history tells us that the gurillas usually win. American revolution and vietnam are in our direct history. We are taught we won using it and Vietnam we lost because we fought against it.

some argue the downfall of soviet communism had a lot to do with misadventures in afghanistan also

baddog · 09-12-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Oh Lord please no, not Baddog, this thread can't take any more ignorance. One more uneducated person giving his "opinion" about why the US is always right and this board is going to start malfunctioning.

An apparent suicide attack on Abu Ghraib jail, outside Baghdad, was foiled when guards shot at a vehicle which then exploded, killing the driver

A car bomb in western Baghdad killed two police officers and a young boy

Three Iraqi national guardsmen were killed around the town of Hilla, south of Baghdad

Rockets and mortar bombs began hitting the Green Zone early on Sunday morning.

The huge government compound, which also houses the US embassy, was bombarded by insurgents who oppose the presence in the country of US troops.

One blast hit the French embassy's car park, but caused no injuries. Another fell just short of the main international hotels

jade_dragon · 09-12-2004, 01:36 PM

Not to get off topic but since we are talking about war and we have some Europeans here. How may of you were taught the American Revolution never happened or it simply was not taught in class at all. This is an interesting topic I have started researching and I wanted to ask some of your guys

Rich · 09-12-2004, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
There is a differance between a cop out and a reason. I did not say it was an excuse I told you how it is. I dunno who told you we all support the president or this war, reading the posts should give you an idea. I do not think the country has been in such direct opposition over leadership and policy since the Civil War. There were more than a few years between Reagan and Bush by the way which means there were more than a few million new voters who may or may not have known about that situation. THEN we have all the contraversy over weither the president elect was even elected. Then you have to take into the idea of the electoral college and the fact that the votes of the people are not counted on a whole to decide. This whole thing has not gone over without a hitch and there is a lot of opposition and lots of leasons that were learned with all of this.

You probably think that all Americans are violent and will kill and fight when they do not get our way. So you honestly think we should overthrow the government right now while at war? We are a democrative country as you said, and that means we show opposition and go through the proper channels and we fight as a last resourt. So no we are not going to go overthrow our government over this, we will say we oppose it using our free speach. Our leaders should then listen to us UNLESS our ideas are not good for our country. The average American is not in a position to lead this country, just like I do not believe you would particuraly make a good military leader based on your comments here. Not attacking you just making a point, you would be a push over as a leader and probably wait to long to fight against a threat, this is why you are not in leadership, this is why the American people do not make decisions on things of this mannor.

No, you've got me wrong. I don't think all Americans are violent and will kill when they don't get their way. I know this isn't true. I live 30 minutes from the border, I know a lot of Americans and I realize most are just like everyone else in this world.

I just think about half are extremely ignorant and lazy, and they'd rather let their government kill people than pay attention.

I'm not talking about a revolution. Americans have no chance at ever overthrowing their government again, what did you think the cold war build up was about? Fighting commies? lmfao

The fact is more than half or at least close to half of the USA still supports this President, and he's not going anywhere in November. That's fucking pathetic. You have a population of people who vote before they know who or what they're voting for, and that's the fault of the people. Watching a couple morons bark at eachother on TV is not information.

Oh and, I was talking about Bush Sr., there were no years between Reagan and Bush.

Tipsy · 09-12-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Not to get off topic but since we are talking about war and we have some Europeans here. How may of you were taught the American Revolution never happened or it simply was not taught in class at all. This is an interesting topic I have started researching and I wanted to ask some of your guys

You'll find just about anyone who studied US history at school (obviously I'm talking about outside of the US here) was taught about it and those that didn't know the basics anyway. Something my wife found interesting since leaving the US - the amount of things from her own countries histroy she WASN'T taught. Once upon a time I thought it only places such as communist countries and dictatorships that tended to delete certain parts of their history...

Rich · 09-12-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
An apparent suicide attack on Abu Ghraib jail, outside Baghdad, was foiled when guards shot at a vehicle which then exploded, killing the driver

A car bomb in western Baghdad killed two police officers and a young boy

Three Iraqi national guardsmen were killed around the town of Hilla, south of Baghdad

Rockets and mortar bombs began hitting the Green Zone early on Sunday morning.

The huge government compound, which also houses the US embassy, was bombarded by insurgents who oppose the presence in the country of US troops.

One blast hit the French embassy's car park, but caused no injuries. Another fell just short of the main international hotels

Great post, it's almost as if you should have stayed the fuck out of Iraq.

I'll give you morons one thing, it's going to be entertaining listening to Bush after the next major attack on the USA.

"See, this is what happens when you question me. If we had just attacked Iran and Syria too, this never would have happened."

theking · 09-12-2004, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Saying the you're going to sit there with a helicopter and pick off every civilian that goes near every abandoned tank is pretty fucking ignorant.

Regarding my country, our tanks wouldn't be blown up on the streets of another country. Our citizens have brains and we don't often let defense contractors in our government attack other peoples. That's why it's 3000 of your citizens dead plus another thousand in Iraq, not ours. You have no one to blame but yourselves, you are the ones who want the wars. You can laugh at these kids now, and their families will laugh when a dirty bomb goes off in NY. To the rest of the civilized world you're both fucking retards.

You are a stupid fuck...Richy boy. News flash...the enemy in Iraq are civilians...we defeated their military.

Phoenix · 09-12-2004, 01:49 PM

guerilla warfare has been used for centuries..the most famous example of this being Hadrians wall

sacX · 09-12-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Not to get off topic but since we are talking about war and we have some Europeans here. How may of you were taught the American Revolution never happened or it simply was not taught in class at all. This is an interesting topic I have started researching and I wanted to ask some of your guys

I'm not european, I'm from New Zealand.
I was never taught a thing about US history in school.

It's a very interesting topic, and I took the time to learn about it independently. It's actually a very interesting topic for foreigners. Since everyone is exposed to US culture, having a grasp of history puts a lot of it in context.

SmokeyTheBear · 09-12-2004, 01:51 PM

Just to claify some of the details...

The helicopter opened fire on armed insurgents in the area while the members were still trapped on the ground..

After the members were taken away warning shots were fired at and around the vehicle. Then rockets were fired at the vehicle as is standard with both sides to destroy critical documents , sensitive information , weapons, located in the vehicle.

Looters had ignored warning shots and instead chose to attempt to loot the vehicle as it was being fired upon..

As tragic as this is, would you let your children loot the whitehouse if john kerry attempted to assasinate bush ?? i think not..

hydro · 09-12-2004, 01:52 PM

im not for this war and never have supported bush. But i highly doubt the blackhawk would shoot for no reason. Despite what some of you may belive we are not military experts and don't know what was in that tank that they could use against us. It may not be what was in the take but who surrounded it, it sucks that some kids died but this is a war. It shouldn't have been started but kids will die whenever there is war and not much you can do that wouldn't result in you losing that war.

ezrydn · 09-12-2004, 01:53 PM

My tank. My weapons. My ammo. My equipment. Just because it's on fire doesn't make it YOURS! I'd blast their sandy asses, too. Common sense would dictate, "Stay the fuck away from someone else's TANK!"

I loved being a door gunner on a Huey in Nam!

jade_dragon · 09-12-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
No, you've got me wrong. I don't think all Americans are violent and will kill when they don't get their way. I know this isn't true. I live 30 minutes from the border, I know a lot of Americans and I realize most are just like everyone else in this world.

I just think about half are extremely ignorant and lazy, and they'd rather let their government kill people than pay attention.

I'm not talking about a revolution. Americans have no chance at ever overthrowing their government again, what did you think the cold war build up was about? Fighting commies? lmfao

The fact is more than half or at least close to half of the USA still supports this President, and he's not going anywhere in November. That's fucking pathetic. You have a population of people who vote before they know who or what they're voting for, and that's the fault of the people. Watching a couple morons bark at eachother on TV is not information.

Oh and, I was talking about Bush Sr., there were no years between Reagan and Bush.

This is heading in a dangerous direction, read between the lines and you will figure out what i am talking about......

David! · 09-12-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by donnie
They were dancing an laughing at all the Palestinian children they had killed.

They aren't dancing and laughing now.

Hey Bubbah, are you totally retarded?
Why are you on an American board if you hate us so much?
You are nothing but a troll who does not have the guts to reveal his true identity and who is hinding behind a nickname.
So, Fuck OFF and Shut the Fuck UP

baddog · 09-12-2004, 01:54 PM

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Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear

As tragic as this is, would you let your children loot the whitehouse if john kerry attempted to assasinate bush ?? i think not..

Rich would, if he was capable of having children

dailyduke · 09-12-2004, 01:55 PM

Opinions are like assholes and here is mine for you all to read

More Iraqi innocents have been killed then Americans kille din 9/11 and this war. Noone seems to care about them in America, they only fear for the death or feel for the loss of a loved one. Fact is, if GWB had not gone to Iraq (BTW Saddam was evil, but was not a threat) then this issue would not be an issue.

I feel bad for all the loss of life. In todays society we shoudl have figured out that violence is never the right answer, yet people will still choose the path of evil over the path pf peace.

It is wrong for anyone to kill children regardless of who they are and what they may or may not grow up to be. And as for Palestine and Isreal, well both sides are guilty of killing just like the US is guilty of killing. It is not war it is murder and war should end

KRL · 09-12-2004, 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by dailyduke
Opinions are like assholes and here is mine for you all to read

More Iraqi innocents have been killed then Americans kille din 9/11 and this war. Noone seems to care about them in America, they only fear for the death or feel for the loss of a loved one. Fact is, if GWB had not gone to Iraq (BTW Saddam was evil, but was not a threat) then this issue would not be an issue.

I feel bad for all the loss of life. In todays society we shoudl have figured out that violence is never the right answer, yet people will still choose the path of evil over the path pf peace.

It is wrong for anyone to kill children regardless of who they are and what they may or may not grow up to be. And as for Palestine and Isreal, well both sides are guilty of killing just like the US is guilty of killing. It is not war it is murder and war should end

Tens of thousands of Iraqis died so that millions of Iraqis now and in future generations to come will live in freedom and liberty. Unfortunately, this is the price a society must pay to achieve liberation from a dictatorial government.

hydro · 09-12-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by dailyduke
Opinions are like assholes and here is mine for you all to read

More Iraqi innocents have been killed then Americans kille din 9/11 and this war. Noone seems to care about them in America, they only fear for the death or feel for the loss of a loved one. Fact is, if GWB had not gone to Iraq (BTW Saddam was evil, but was not a threat) then this issue would not be an issue.

I feel bad for all the loss of life. In todays society we shoudl have figured out that violence is never the right answer, yet people will still choose the path of evil over the path pf peace.

It is wrong for anyone to kill children regardless of who they are and what they may or may not grow up to be. And as for Palestine and Isreal, well both sides are guilty of killing just like the US is guilty of killing. It is not war it is murder and war should end

violence is the only thing muslim extremist understand. They are unrealistic with thier demands and would kill you before they would shake your hand. But i agree with you, we have no business being in iraq to fight "terrorism"

theking · 09-12-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by baddog
Sounds to me like Iraqis are killing more Iraqis than we are

That is the case.

donnie · 09-12-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by PussyMan
Hey Bubbah, are you totally retarded?
Why are you on an American board if you hate us so much?
You are nothing but a troll who does not have the guts to reveal his true identity and who is hinding behind a nickname.
So, Fuck OFF and Shut the Fuck UP

Ask your mother who I am

KRL · 09-12-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by donnie
They were dancing an laughing at all the Palestinian children they had killed.

They aren't dancing and laughing now.

Please post a pic of Americans dancing and laughing about Palestinian children Donnie.

You won't find any will you.

But regardless that pic is why we took out the government of Afghanistan and then Iraq. Who's up next? Time will tell.

David! · 09-12-2004, 02:02 PM

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Originally posted by donnie

Ask your mother who I am

wow bubbah, your sense of humor is incredible just about the level of a 16 years old troll

jade_dragon · 09-12-2004, 02:03 PM

My aunt says she was specifically taught that it probably did not happen at all and it is another one of our american legends that was propogated to aid in our mentality. She is British and over 30 (married into the family). It is very interesting because no one was there that is alive now, the american public school system was not organized till way after anyone who was there died and you know how history can be passed down wrong. It is very interesting isn't it.

David! · 09-12-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Please post a pic of Americans dancing and laughing about Palestinian children Donnie.

You won't find any will you.

But regardless that pic is why we took out the government of Afghanistan and then Iraq. Who's up next? Time will tell.

Syria is next, notice the tone of the US and the new resolutions being pushed at the UN. Furthermore, even Putin is dropping Syria. A State Department envoy will be there Tuesday to deliver an ultimatum, let's see if Assad does a Hussein or a Kadhafi..

donnie · 09-12-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Please post a pic of Americans dancing and laughing about Palestinian children Donnie.

You won't find any will you.

But regardless that pic is why we took out the government of Afghanistan and then Iraq. Who's up next? Time will tell.

Is it not enough that you are supplying israeli terrorist with weapons?? Do you really need pictures???

And that is why we took out WTC and Pentagon. What will we take next?? Time will tell.

David! · 09-12-2004, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by donnie
Is it not enough that you are supplying israeli terrorist with weapons?? Do you really need pictures???

And that is why we took out WTC and Pentagon. What will we take next?? Time will tell.

TROLL ON THE PROWL

groark · 09-12-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ

Two children and a journalist for an Arabic TV news channel, al-Arabiyya, were among those killed. "

Not 30.

3.

_among those killed_ so there were some more killed

and when you say the roots of this go way back then you are right..
back to the one who started it. the USA!
i dont say iraq is better off with saddam but to attack a country to "free its people" is just stipid..
the us didnt have an after-war-plan... see what happens now..
they behave like retars in that country, not respecting the people..
that breeds terror... and thats what they get...

Joesho · 09-12-2004, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
That's the most pathetic cop out possible, you're a FUCKING DEMOCRACY. Americans have repeatedly continued to support Presidents who have killed hundreds of thousands of people illegally, and even ones who have traded arms with, I don't know, IRAN.

The government works for you, not the other way around, don't forget that. The only reason the US government has been able to run wild is because the people don't challenge them on it. I mean, Reagan fought illegal wars in South America and gave weapons to Iran, I've got an idea... let's elect Bush!

It's not your leaders fault, there will always be crazy people trying to lead countries into war. It's the peoples fault for being stupid enough to let them. It's not Reagan's fault he trained and armed Bin Laden, it's your fault you let him while you weren't paying attention.

I have to ageree with rich on this point.

but I agree with Jade Dragon on the point we are at war, ( right or wrong that is not the soldiers fault) and we must protect our soldiers, and by allowing even small victories to take place like capturing and possibly learning about or using material from one of our tanks is not an acceptable alternative. as it would appear to give the hope to the enemy. ( for the record I do not agree with us being there, but I do agree with not losing anything and that it is a very unfortunate situation to be placed in as an american that loves his country, but is more than dissapointed with it's leadership and direction at the present time.

KRL · 09-12-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by donnie
Is it not enough that you are supplying israeli terrorist with weapons?? Do you really need pictures???

And that is why we took out WTC and Pentagon. What will we take next?? Time will tell.

WE? You didn't take out shit. Who are you?

You think you are a big time terrorist Donnie?

Why don't you post intelligently so at least we can begin to have some respect for your mind.

jade_dragon · 09-12-2004, 02:41 PM

Donnie i would try to convince everyone that was a typo, there is a major crack down on what is being said that is terrorist related. Also comments like that may hurt your business. I know we can say as we want but think of the tone and words you use in the future, I would hate to see you black listed here or worst you get pulled in for questioning on your comments here (and yes it is that serious) And I know you are not in the US but still.....

And yes we are basically stuck now, the leaders "pushed the button" and now we all have to, agree with it or not, sit here and see how it plays out. The idea is not to start screaming anti government slogans and attacking government as a whole. Doing so would harm the foundation of America as a whole and that is unpatriotic and harmful to life here in America for eveyone. It will weaken us and now is not a time to be weak. We are stuck in the war and its concequences supporter or not.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-12-2004, 02:51 PM

Damn trolls...

Next "America Sucks Posted by Idiot" thread please...

Goose · 09-12-2004, 02:56 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
ahh I see, you're right. This guy is obviously easily confused, he quoted one of my posts and said "ok mr German".

I was like WTF, Canada never killed any jews! lol

We've rested on our morals since we burned down the White House.

haha Canada just rocks

donnie · 09-12-2004, 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Donnie i would try to convince everyone that was a typo, there is a major crack down on what is being said that is terrorist related. Also comments like that may hurt your business. I know we can say as we want but think of the tone and words you use in the future, I would hate to see you black listed here or worst you get pulled in for questioning on your comments here (and yes it is that serious) And I know you are not in the US but still.....

And yes we are basically stuck now, the leaders "pushed the button" and now we all have to, agree with it or not, sit here and see how it plays out. The idea is not to start screaming anti government slogans and attacking government as a whole. Doing so would harm the foundation of America as a whole and that is unpatriotic and harmful to life here in America for eveyone. It will weaken us and now is not a time to be weak. We are stuck in the war and its concequences supporter or not.

I don't do business with americans (not that much anyway) and I don't give a shit what americans think about me. I don't care if I get banned from GFY. And regarding questioning, I would LOVE to see somebody try to bring me in. I don't live in USA where you don't have any rights.

I understand you can't trow down your government and I do belive most americans are good people. But you must understand that most of the muslim world perceive USA and israel as terrorist countries because what you are doing in the ME. Personally I don't support any side. bin Laden and Bush are both same to me (my comments above are for idiots like KRL and PussyMan).

David! · 09-12-2004, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by donnie
I don't do business with americans (not that much anyway) and I don't give a shit what americans think about me. I don't care if I get banned from GFY. And regarding questioning, I would LOVE to see somebody try to bring me in. I don't live in USA where you don't have any rights.

I understand you can't trow down your government and I do belive most americans are good people. But you must understand that most of the muslim world perceive USA and israel as terrorist countries because what you are doing in the ME. Personally I don't support any side. bin Laden and Bush are both same to me (my comments above are for idiots like KRL and PussyMan).

Hey Bubbah, who cares about you and your business?
You are nothing but an anonymous troll here

donnie · 09-12-2004, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
WE? You didn't take out shit. Who are you?

You think you are a big time terrorist Donnie?

Why don't you post intelligently so at least we can begin to have some respect for your mind.

No I am not a terrorist. I am not american or israeli.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-12-2004, 03:17 PM

Tell us about the "Push them into the sea" policy formulated by Middle Eastern Countries against Isreal?

Go back and figure out why Isreal took some land.

Terrorism thats why. It was not Isreal throwing bombs into Palestinian territories, it was the contrary that triggered Isreal to Annex more land.
Its the Nations around Isreal to this day that have fed the fire since day one.

Now what nations are not holding up to there words?

donnie · 09-12-2004, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by PussyMan
Hey Bubbah, who cares about you and your business?
You are nothing but an anonymous troll here

Your mother cares about my business. I am bringing her all the customers.

09-12-2004, 01:17 PM	#53
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Take from a bigger picture... Saddam gave money to Palestinian Terrorist familes. He trained trerrorists and funded the Palestinian cause. He violated UN Resolutions. He Killed his own people but the thousands. H invaded Quate and lewted it and lit up thousands of Oil wells... Ya think he is a good guy? Don't forget that the US really wanted to finish off Saddam when he hit Quate but guess who stopped us? Iraq was inevitable, they would continue to fuel the fires in Palestine, just like Iran, Syria and other Islamic Nations that feed terrorist organizations. Everyone wanted the USa to handle the Isreali, Palestinian conflict. They wanted it so bad some of them Declared war on the US... Think some about why it is this way today... __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

09-12-2004, 01:26 PM	#58
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09-12-2004, 01:36 PM	#66
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	Not to get off topic but since we are talking about war and we have some Europeans here. How may of you were taught the American Revolution never happened or it simply was not taught in class at all. This is an interesting topic I have started researching and I wanted to ask some of your guys __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships

09-12-2004, 01:49 PM	#71
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,462	guerilla warfare has been used for centuries..the most famous example of this being Hadrians wall __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

09-12-2004, 01:51 PM	#73
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	Just to claify some of the details... The helicopter opened fire on armed insurgents in the area while the members were still trapped on the ground.. After the members were taken away warning shots were fired at and around the vehicle. Then rockets were fired at the vehicle as is standard with both sides to destroy critical documents , sensitive information , weapons, located in the vehicle. Looters had ignored warning shots and instead chose to attempt to loot the vehicle as it was being fired upon.. As tragic as this is, would you let your children loot the whitehouse if john kerry attempted to assasinate bush ?? i think not.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

09-12-2004, 01:23 PM	#56
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Sounds to me like Iraqis are killing more Iraqis than we are

09-12-2004, 01:52 PM	#74
hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	im not for this war and never have supported bush. But i highly doubt the blackhawk would shoot for no reason. Despite what some of you may belive we are not military experts and don't know what was in that tank that they could use against us. It may not be what was in the take but who surrounded it, it sucks that some kids died but this is a war. It shouldn't have been started but kids will die whenever there is war and not much you can do that wouldn't result in you losing that war.

09-12-2004, 01:53 PM	#75
ezrydn Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Guadalajara, MX Posts: 695	My tank. My weapons. My ammo. My equipment. Just because it's on fire doesn't make it YOURS! I'd blast their sandy asses, too. Common sense would dictate, "Stay the fuck away from someone else's TANK!" I loved being a door gunner on a Huey in Nam!

09-12-2004, 01:55 PM	#79
dailyduke Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: City of Angels & Sin... Posts: 286	Opinions are like assholes and here is mine for you all to read More Iraqi innocents have been killed then Americans kille din 9/11 and this war. Noone seems to care about them in America, they only fear for the death or feel for the loss of a loved one. Fact is, if GWB had not gone to Iraq (BTW Saddam was evil, but was not a threat) then this issue would not be an issue. I feel bad for all the loss of life. In todays society we shoudl have figured out that violence is never the right answer, yet people will still choose the path of evil over the path pf peace. It is wrong for anyone to kill children regardless of who they are and what they may or may not grow up to be. And as for Palestine and Isreal, well both sides are guilty of killing just like the US is guilty of killing. It is not war it is murder and war should end __________________ WE BUILD WEBSITES

09-12-2004, 02:03 PM	#86
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	My aunt says she was specifically taught that it probably did not happen at all and it is another one of our american legends that was propogated to aid in our mentality. She is British and over 30 (married into the family). It is very interesting because no one was there that is alive now, the american public school system was not organized till way after anyone who was there died and you know how history can be passed down wrong. It is very interesting isn't it. __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships

09-12-2004, 02:41 PM	#93
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	Donnie i would try to convince everyone that was a typo, there is a major crack down on what is being said that is terrorist related. Also comments like that may hurt your business. I know we can say as we want but think of the tone and words you use in the future, I would hate to see you black listed here or worst you get pulled in for questioning on your comments here (and yes it is that serious) And I know you are not in the US but still..... And yes we are basically stuck now, the leaders "pushed the button" and now we all have to, agree with it or not, sit here and see how it plays out. The idea is not to start screaming anti government slogans and attacking government as a whole. Doing so would harm the foundation of America as a whole and that is unpatriotic and harmful to life here in America for eveyone. It will weaken us and now is not a time to be weak. We are stuck in the war and its concequences supporter or not. __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships

09-12-2004, 02:51 PM	#94
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Damn trolls... Next "America Sucks Posted by Idiot" thread please... __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

09-12-2004, 03:17 PM	#99
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Tell us about the "Push them into the sea" policy formulated by Middle Eastern Countries against Isreal? Go back and figure out why Isreal took some land. Terrorism thats why. It was not Isreal throwing bombs into Palestinian territories, it was the contrary that triggered Isreal to Annex more land. Its the Nations around Isreal to this day that have fed the fire since day one. Now what nations are not holding up to there words? __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 09-12-2004 at 03:19 PM..