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Old 09-09-2004, 07:47 PM   #1
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100K/day or bigger thumb preview TGP's/MGP's, who wants them? Taking orders!

If you're interested to have one built by me, please contact CraK on ICQ (16307149) about everything you need to know. Please, do not ICQ me, CraK is handling all sales/waiting list/support issues.

Oh, and since I'm sure the question will come up, the price for a 100K/day thumb site is $2000, including design/redesign and feeder traffic. So get on the waiting list ASAP if you want this done in a timely manner.
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Old 09-09-2004, 08:14 PM   #2
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I'll be here if anybody has any questions or wants to know anything about the services we provide.. including references/feedback/samples, etc

btw, why cant i make posts under my nick "crak" ?? i can log in.. but cant make any posts.. weird
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Old 09-09-2004, 08:16 PM   #3
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Old 09-09-2004, 08:18 PM   #4
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Can you supply 5 different 100k TGPs without using the same feeder traffic? What do you charge as a monthly fee to maintain the sites? Can I have dual mode text/thumb TGPs?
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Can you supply 5 different 100k TGPs without using the same feeder traffic?
I suppose it can be done, although it's hard to get good feeder at a reasonable delivery speed, especially from five different sources. I've tried a bunch, most suck, to be honest. But then again, anything can be arranged, it's only the price that might differ.

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What do you charge as a monthly fee to maintain the sites?
I've never been hired to maintain them, only to build them. But then again, it's just a matter of price, so I'll have to consider this option and get back to you about it.

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Can I have dual mode text/thumb TGPs?
As in thumb/text hybrids? Sure, as long as thumbs go on top.
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Old 09-09-2004, 08:31 PM   #6
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How much feeder traffic do you use per day?
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Crak told me you have a 5 week backlog.

So why are you wanting more business?
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How much feeder traffic do you use per day?
Does it matter, as long as the site is delivered as promised? Anyway, to answer your question, there's no set amount. Different sites require different amounts of feeder. If the site doesn't grow, I'll keep feeding it until it does, even if it means that it comes out of my own pocket and I'm making a loss on the job. My goal is to deliver each and every single time, I have a problem with failing.
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Why do you have more than one nick?
Because my nick "crak" was not used by me to make any posts for a long time.. so it got deactivated. I got it activated again but for some reason it never let me make any posts after that.. so i just made another one
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Crak told me you have a 5 week backlog.

So why are you wanting more business?
So that we can get everything nicely lined up and well-structured according to a set schedule. This will enable me to sweat less doing support and sales, while CraK takes care of these bits, at the same time as it gives me more time to focus on doing what I do best, grow the sites. Bottom line, it helps us cater better to our clients' needs, so that sites get delivered faster. I think you'll find this to work out quite well and it'll benefit you too.
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I assume that price is only for general TGP's? Do you build niche TGP's also ?
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I assume that price is only for general TGP's? Do you build niche TGP's also ?
We can surely build niche TGPs but the cost and size varies from niche to niche

There's no set price for niche sites so we charge 30%-50% premium on some niches, depending on how difficult it is to build up traffic in that niche
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Old 09-09-2004, 08:58 PM   #13
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will the trades be maintained after ur job is done?
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will the trades be maintained after ur job is done?
no, you gotta do that...

But unless you have server downtime or fuck something up you will maintain.
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So that we can get everything nicely lined up and well-structured according to a set schedule. This will enable me to sweat less doing support and sales, while CraK takes care of these bits, at the same time as it gives me more time to focus on doing what I do best, grow the sites. Bottom line, it helps us cater better to our clients' needs, so that sites get delivered faster. I think you'll find this to work out quite well and it'll benefit you too.
nice reply! Lemme know when you can start on one for me.
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Old 09-09-2004, 09:05 PM   #16
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this will be a dumb question, so i expect a dumb answer:

if i throw 2k in, how long would it take to get my money back?
my own refs, and maybe sell traffic to choker.
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nice reply! Lemme know when you can start on one for me.
Greg, you know it'll be very soon buddy

btw, remind me tweek your design for adultmoviehouse.com

i happen to forget
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nice reply! Lemme know when you can start on one for me.
Well, we started doing this scheduled thing since I easily got backlogged due to doing everything myself. The reason we now started taking orders to work on new jobs five weeks from now is so I can finish up my current backlog. After that, everything will go according to the new list and hopefully a lot smoother. With any luck, I'll be able to work through my backlog faster, now that CraK is helping in taking some workload off my hands.
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this will be a dumb question, so i expect a dumb answer:

if i throw 2k in, how long would it take to get my money back?
my own refs, and maybe sell traffic to choker.
Dumb answer.

Kidding aside though, it'll take as long or as short time as you want it to. If you want to recover your investment quickly, you need to get to know your traffic, cater to its needs and serve your surfers with what they want to buy. We don't tell you how to convert your traffic, you should know that yourself. We just build the traffic for you. It's easy to learn how to convert traffic once you have it. Building it, however, isn't always as easy, for most people.
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this will be a dumb question, so i expect a dumb answer:

if i throw 2k in, how long would it take to get my money back?
my own refs, and maybe sell traffic to choker.
if you can keep the 100k a day, at least a month
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I don't think that should be too much of a problem, with some basic knowledge of traffic trading.
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real fucking professional, the guys name is fucking CracK on ICQ. sure ill do business with crackheads,

okay maybe he's not a crackhead but don't we all wanna be as much as professional as we can in this biz/?
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real fucking professional, the guys name is fucking CracK on ICQ. sure ill do business with crackheads,

okay maybe he's not a crackhead but don't we all wanna be as much as professional as we can in this biz/?
The only one being unprofessional is you. His nickname is CraK, get your eye-sight checked.

Anyway, if you're stupid enough to think that someone's nickname denotes him being a crackhead, then you most likely need to look for someone selling affordable swamp land in Florida, right about where Ivan will pass.
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I don't think that should be too much of a problem, with some basic knowledge of traffic trading.
well you never know, shit happens
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real fucking professional, the guys name is fucking CracK on ICQ. sure ill do business with crackheads,

okay maybe he's not a crackhead but don't we all wanna be as much as professional as we can in this biz/?
Gotta love the lack of common sense in some people.. but it's okay... if everyone was smart, who would be considered dumb?

I'm still available for any questions anybody might have. Thanks to the people that messaged me on ICQ
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Gotta love the lack of common sense in some people.. but it's okay... if everyone was smart, who would be considered dumb?
Good point, we should always be grateful for the less intelligent, as they also have a function in society.
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if i throw 2k in, will the trades be maintained without using the same feeder traffic?
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if i throw 2k in, will the trades be maintained without using the same feeder traffic?
Please rephrase and explain what exactly it is you want me to clarify for you.
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you should bump your old thread about it, i think i asked a question at the end of it, not sure if u answered it .......
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oh and could you be the guy who would tech me everything about TGP's? ( maintaining, trading, all the different scripts etc )
I am lazy and got ZERO tech knowledge

Money probably wouldn't be a problem
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actually, i got a q that was asked by my fellow gay lover giorgio, how much would u charge to maintain a 100k tgp and keep it at that rate?
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Would you consider building cheaper, smaller (say 10k) "learner" TGP's that people could use to learn how to run a TGP before spending $2000 on one only to find we don't know how to manage it?
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you should bump your old thread about it, i think i asked a question at the end of it, not sure if u answered it .......
You could always ask it again in this thread.

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I am lazy and got ZERO tech knowledge

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actually, i got a q that was asked by my fellow gay lover giorgio, how much would u charge to maintain a 100k tgp and keep it at that rate?
$600 for traffic management, another $300 if you want gallery management as well.

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Would you consider building cheaper, smaller (say 10k) "learner" TGP's that people could use to learn how to run a TGP before spending $2000 on one only to find we don't know how to manage it?
I've considered it and decided against it. Running a TGP/MGP is a lot easier than building one. I understand your concern about shelling out $2000 and not knowing whether you can keep the traffic or not, but with any investment there's a risk. I take my share of risks, it's only natural that others should as well.
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my question is, if you can build tgp's that are sustainable after feeding and you can make that money back within a month, why not make a network of your own tgp's and run with it?

seems more profitable than building it up for others
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my question is, if you can build tgp's that are sustainable after feeding and you can make that money back within a month, why not make a network of your own tgp's and run with it?

seems more profitable than building it up for others
Same reason why people promote PPS sponsors instead of partnership sponsors, fast cash. I get a nice chunk of cash up-front and you get to cash in the recurring.
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Same reason why people promote PPS sponsors instead of partnership sponsors, fast cash. I get a nice chunk of cash up-front and you get to cash in the recurring.
but its only a month? plus its more of a sure thing than using a pps sponsor(chances are the site sucks anyways, as most do, so you're better off with pps).

feed a few tgp's to 50-100k and you have your own network of feeder sites to open new tgp's. its like exponential once it gets rolling.

i'm sure you have references, etc, but i just scratch my head thinking about what you're doing especially for the price you're doing it for.
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but its only a month? plus its more of a sure thing than using a pps sponsor(chances are the site sucks anyways, as most do, so you're better off with pps).

feed a few tgp's to 50-100k and you have your own network of feeder sites to open new tgp's. its like exponential once it gets rolling.

i'm sure you have references, etc, but i just scratch my head thinking about what you're doing especially for the price you're doing it for.
I've been thinking about changing the strategy, but at the current time this business model suits me. Should I decide to change it, I'll obviously announce it, as it would affect quite a few people who are waiting for me do deliver a service.
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Would you consider building cheaper, smaller (say 10k) "learner" TGP's that people could use to learn how to run a TGP before spending $2000 on one only to find we don't know how to manage it?
I always say that if you just wanna learn, grab some free scripts and build a site from scratch without spending any money on it. You will learn very quickly and wont have to worry about your site dying out.. because from there, it can only get better
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I would highly recommend DamageX. A few of our hosting clients use his services and they have said they couldn't be happier.... if you want to get into the MGP market fast this is the way to go... the $2k is well worth it
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Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. I'm a doer, not a teacher.
those who can teach, possibly cannot do. But i'd say those who can do could also be able to teach.
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Old 09-11-2004, 02:55 AM   #44
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Does it matter, as long as the site is delivered as promised? Anyway, to answer your question, there's no set amount. Different sites require different amounts of feeder. If the site doesn't grow, I'll keep feeding it until it does, even if it means that it comes out of my own pocket and I'm making a loss on the job. My goal is to deliver each and every single time, I have a problem with failing.
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Old 09-11-2004, 09:49 PM   #45
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For the people that have contacted me about building smaller sites; sorry, at the moment we cannot do anything smaller than 100k

The smallest niche sites we can do is 50k at the moment because i know it can be hard for some niches to get bigger than that

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Old 09-11-2004, 11:13 PM   #46
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Can I see a sample of a site you have built?
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Old 09-12-2004, 12:54 AM   #47
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i asked crak about this awhile ago... mebbe someone can answer it now... if u guys build me a 100k mainstream site in however long it takes you, how many bookmarkers can i expect to have when you pull the feeder traffic off?

also, i assume when you say a month stable that means feeder has been off for a month, correct?
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:14 AM   #48
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:23 AM   #49
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Can I see a sample of a site you have built?
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Old 09-12-2004, 01:38 AM   #50
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How's business with your previous clients who paid 2k for the sites, have their 100k hits been stable, and how long has it been since they made their ROI?
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