you got it right

The USA is NOT a democracy.

got the second part right also

At least I have a wife who fucks me and not the rest of the barracks.

Plus I can still fuck.

As for a piece of trash, come to Vegas and say that to my face. I will lend you the Greyhound Bus fare.

what about playing with the blacks ?
been going on for over 50 years.
the party of choose for them have been
telling them for over 50 years all the good shit they are doing for them :1orglaugh

As I said if the Mid West States have too much say you could find yourself being ruled by a guy who caters to the fringe elements.

The most highly populated States have to have a big say. They are where the people are usually the money. Remeber what worked yesterday does not always work tomorrow.

You need to open up your high school political science book and re-read it.

You must be a very religious person to ask me to meet you face to face.

Here's a list of how many votes each state gets in the Electoral College:

ALABAMA 9
MONTANA 3
ALASKA 3
NEBRASKA 5
ARIZONA 8
NEVADA 4
ARKANSAS 6
NEW HAMPSHIRE 4
CALIFORNIA 54
NEW JERSEY 15
COLORADO 8
NEW MEXICO 5
CONNECTICUT 8
NEW YORK 33
DELAWARE 3
NORTH CAROLINA 14
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA 3
NORTH DAKOTA 3
FLORIDA 25
OHIO 21
GEORGIA 13
OKLAHOMA 8
HAWAII 4
OREGON 7
IDAHO 4
PENNSYLVANIA 23
ILLINOIS 22
RHODE ISLAND 4
INDIANA 12
SOUTH CAROLINA 8
IOWA 7
SOUTH DAKOTA 3
KANSAS 6
TENNESSEE 11
KENTUCKY 8
TEXAS 32
LOUISIANA 9
UTAH 5
MAINE 4
VERMONT 3
MARYLAND 10
VIRGINIA 13
MASSACHUSETTS 12
WASHINGTON 11
MICHIGAN 18
WEST VIRGINIA 5
MINNESOTA 10
WISCONSIN 11
MISSISSIPPI 7
WYOMING 3
MISSOURI 11

So, really, it's much easier to rig an election than I thought. Each candidate either needs to blackmail, bribe, threaten or torture only 270 representatives to win an election.

I'm starting to hope bush wins if only to speed up the revolution.

it's worked for over 200 years.

I really can't understand is why so many people in the USA didn't even know what the Electorial College was before the last election.

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The most highly populated States have to have a big say. They are where the people are usually the money.
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this one of the main reasons they set up the college..... so they wouldn't have 2 big of a say. computes with me mon
:Graucho

Stupid...stupid...clueless old mother fucker...you really should not post about things that you do not know a fucking thing about. You would be much better off keeping your nasty toothed pie hole shut...so as not to appear as ignorant as you are.

50

I don't like bush..

What ever minority it's still wrong.

You have to show that you understand their needs and fears. But when you attack the mainstream for the benefit of the few it's wrong.

But equal rights was needed and did benefit America. What is needed now is to educate the poor so they can become a benefit to the country.

don't vote for him :Graucho
if you are from the USA

Only twice in the history of the United States has the Electoral College not reflected the national popular vote...and it is not because an election was rigged. It is because the Electorial College system worked as it was designed to work.

Bush 50 445 156
Gore 50 992 335

Only in America its possible to loose even when 500000 more People voted for you
:2 cents:

Thats democracy

The reason the Electoral college does NOT work is because there are always biased people casting votes for the "masses", trying to narrow down the results to only a few in most cases, as well as each state has a different # of votes based on it's population. Where to have a truely FAIR election process, each state should only have 12 votes.

There is absolutely NO reason why California should have 54 votes while Montana gets 3.

Each state should have 12 representatives from their state, with at least one of each of the following types of people on the panel:

African, Caucasion, Hispanic, Middle-Eastern, Asian, Female, Male, Wealthy, Poor, Blue Collar, White Collar, Youth, Elderly and so on... Covering as many broad backgrounds as possible within the 12 slots. Every 4 years new Electors should be voted in by popular vote.

Each of the states gets: 12 Votes (TOTAL: 612)
Each of the 6 US Territories should get: 9 Votes (TOTAL: 54)

The playing field needs to be leveled.

FUCK BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!

How in the hell do you figure that when Texas has a larger population than New York?

The Electoral College is outdated. The reason it made sense when it came about was the technology was not there to have a normal vote by vote election nationwide. It would have taken months for them to gather all the data.

The argument that there are more populated areas that would control more of the vote, why not use that argument on a state level? There are areas of CA that are heavily concentrated that control the majority of the vote for things such electing a Governor, thats just the way it is. Besides it happens now with the Electorals anyway.

One citizens vote should never count more than another citizens vote. The Electoral College means your vote may or may not directly affect the ultimate result, depending on where you live. There's no justifiable excuse for that. The need for an Electoral College is obsolete and it should be abolished.

The problem with leveling it is that there is only like 12 people in the entire state of Montana, and there are millions in California - so a Montana vote is worth a fuck of a lot more then a California vote under your system.

Thats why the founding fathers adopted a two house Congress, the House of Representatives is based on the population of a State, and the Senate is the "leveled playing field" since each state gets 2 Senators no matter what.

I believe that we should go to a popular vote system, people that say the election will be decided by New York and California don't seem to realize that is where the most people are, and just like when you are deciding which bar to go to with your friends, majority rules.

Remember, the President is representative of the country, if you don't want a Dem or Repub for your state, then be sure to go vote for your Governor - their decisions effect your life more anyways.

I thought you just had to cheat to be President

We're on the same boat dude!

According to Rasmussen,

Bush has 213 electoral votes

Kerry has 207

That leaves 118 undecided.

The candidate must have 270 to win the electoral college.

A lot can happen in 54 days

You'd be surprised how many people have no idea whatsoever how the system works. :2 cents:

It was Rasmussen that I was referring to and it says 213 to 175...as stated on the link you provided.

yes. i see. i was looking at the actual electoral table which rasmussen hasn't updated yet.

i see bush hasn't gained electoral votes in three months but the undecided column went up.

lol...:1orglaugh nice one!

The electoral college always follows the popular vote for that state....

You obviously missed the boat when they talked about the electoral college in high school huh?

Yes, 9 states contain 50% of the country's population, meaning that the other 41 would not really have a voice. -- without the Electoral College system that is.

Didn't the Democrats go out of their way to prevent the military votes from being counted../???

that's right. The dud lost his home state. LOL

Exactly. We are the most powerful and successful country in the world.

and will continue to be :)

No, he's merely content to take their money.

Kerry has never owned anybody, and is certainly getting his ass kicked by Bush.

In 1960 15 Electors from Virginia or West Virginia that were "pledged" to John F. Kennedy vote for Robert F. Byrd Sr. instead. (And he wasn't even running!)

So you really are against the doctrine of "The Majority Rules"?
Why not let whoever gets the most popular votes win, no matter what part of the country it comes from? It still means the MAJORITY rules as it should be when it comes to the Presidency.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

NO..it is NOT the majority rules with the electoral college.
YOU MUST get at least 270 votes to win. So you can get the majority of electoral votes and NOT win. It then goes to the House Of Representatives to be decided.

Yeah..the above is REALLY a well thought out representative way of electing the highest office holder in the land!