So, Jettis is gone...Does that not concern you? - GoFuckYourself.com

MetaformX · 09-07-2004, 12:50 PM

This is sort of old news, but the fact that Jettis is gone as a proccesor really concerns me. We are left with 2 big boys now...what happens if Epoch buys out CCBILL or vice versa, or something happens to one of those guys? We will be fucked as an indutry...

Gunni · 09-07-2004, 12:51 PM

get your own merchant

it would actually be quite good if there were no third party processors, would cut out a lot of the competition...

MetaformX · 09-07-2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gunni
get your own merchant

it would actually be quite good if there were no third party processors, would cut out a lot of the competition...

right, but the reality is that many people cannot get a merchant account, so 3rd party proccesors serve a rightfull purpose, and currently own the majority of the market share compared to merchant account holders.

Manowar · 09-07-2004, 12:54 PM

what will studiocash be processing with now jettis is gone ?

SpeakEasy · 09-07-2004, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX
right, but the reality is that many people cannot get a merchant account,

You are correct, and that would eliminate a ton of competition, and cheating asswipes

4Pics · 09-07-2004, 12:58 PM

There is Ibill still, so we still have 3.

lazycash · 09-07-2004, 01:03 PM

Intertrans is till out there.

MetaformX · 09-07-2004, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
what will studiocash be processing with now jettis is gone ?

We will offer Cascading with Epoch as our main processor, CCBill, and another proccesor to be determined (iBill perhaps)

WiredGuy · 09-07-2004, 01:04 PM

Verotel
iBill
ccBill
Epoch/Paycom

Still a couple options out there.
WG

p1mpdogg · 09-07-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Verotel
iBill
ccBill
Epoch/Paycom

Still a couple options out there.
WG

verotel is the worst of the worst

WiredGuy · 09-07-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
verotel is the worst of the worst

Just saying there are options.
WG

Doctor Dre · 09-07-2004, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Verotel
iBill
ccBill
Epoch/Paycom

Still a couple options out there.
WG

Verotel likes the cock

MetaformX · 09-07-2004, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Verotel
iBill
ccBill
Epoch/Paycom

Still a couple options out there.
WG

Right, but the options are narrowing...this is cause for concern.

.:St Ides:. · 09-07-2004, 02:18 PM

I myself would be concerned when there is actually only 1 or 2 left. It's not good for biz if Epoch or Ccbill buy out everyone. They need to compeat to survive. I highly doubt it will ever happen

test44 · 09-07-2004, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX
We will offer Cascading with Epoch as our main processor, CCBill, and another proccesor to be determined (iBill perhaps)

Hi Meta,

I noticed that you were considering adding iBill as your backup in the cascade. I can't stress how important it is to diversify your portfolio so to speak when it comes to processing judging from the track record of the industry in the past 2 years.

I can help you get setup with an account. Hit me up at [email protected] or ICQ 137597378.

Adam
iBill
[email protected]

Rich · 09-07-2004, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by test44
I can't stress how important it is to diversify your portfolio so to speak when it comes to processing judging from the track record of the industry in the past 2 years.

Yeah that ibill company keeps fucking up.

Oh wait.

test44 · 09-07-2004, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Yeah that ibill company keeps fucking up.

Oh wait.

Very nice, thanks;)

IPK · 09-07-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by test44
Hi Meta,

I noticed that you were considering adding iBill as your backup in the cascade. I can't stress how important it is to diversify your portfolio so to speak when it comes to processing judging from the track record of the industry in the past 2 years.

I can help you get setup with an account. Hit me up at [email protected] or ICQ 137597378.

Adam
iBill
[email protected]

BigWebRev · 09-07-2004, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by test44
Hi Meta,

I noticed that you were considering adding iBill as your backup in the cascade. I can't stress how important it is to diversify your portfolio so to speak when it comes to processing judging from the track record of the industry in the past 2 years.

I can help you get setup with an account. Hit me up at [email protected] or ICQ 137597378.

Adam
iBill
[email protected]

lol.....sounds like my broker

chupacabra · 09-07-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
Intertrans is till out there.

intertrans? who's that? please don't tell me thats the latest incarnation of TransCharge..!

lazycash · 09-07-2004, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra
intertrans? who's that? please don't tell me thats the latest incarnation of TransCharge..!

www.intertrans.com Working great for ARS.

johndoebob · 09-07-2004, 04:42 PM

There's also 2000 Charge and if you have a good sales record with less chargebacks you may be able to get your own merchant account.

Ty W · 09-07-2004, 09:13 PM

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* Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers
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* Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit
* One-Time & Recurring Transactions
* Professional front and back-end Interface
* Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports
* Free technical support
* Affiliate Tracking Program
* Customized Join Pages
* Customized Emails
* Cascade Billing
* Password - Membership Management
* Discreet Billing Descriptor
* Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA.

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Paul Markham · 09-07-2004, 10:47 PM

we are with Webstream, great service.

Check them out.

NETbilling · 09-10-2004, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaformX
right, but the reality is that many people cannot get a merchant account, so 3rd party proccesors serve a rightfull purpose, and currently own the majority of the market share compared to merchant account holders.

However, there are so many that can get a merchant account but think that they must handle their own fraud scrubbing and customer service which is surely not the case. There is no doubt that the merchants that have their own merchant acohahahahas spend less in processing fees, typically increase sales conversions and have more control over all aspects.

Mitch

p.s. I am not knocking third party processing in any way, just stating facts.

Pleasurepays · 09-10-2004, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gunni

it would actually be quite good if there were no third party processors, would cut out a lot of the competition...

!

AdnerAdvertising · 09-10-2004, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
However, there are so many that can get a merchant account but think that they must handle their own fraud scrubbing and customer service which is surely not the case. There is no doubt that the merchants that have their own merchant acohahahahas spend less in processing fees, typically increase sales conversions and have more control over all aspects.

Mitch

p.s. I am not knocking third party processing in any way, just stating facts.

Who do you recommend as a good merchant account fraud prevention/scrubbing/customer service/ type company?

WTS_andy · 09-10-2004, 12:47 PM

if ACH Billing is something that yall wanna do , WTS is the place to be for that.

Here are a few things that separate us:
- we only process U.S. checks ( thus, have NO 3rd party CC risk!)
- we allow both paid and free trials
- we can easily push refer codes through our system, allowing you to pay your webmasters out on "settled" check signups
- we have an in-house collections dep't, to collect more monies on your behalf
- we offer cross sells ( to your own sites, or our other merchants)
- we have loyalty offerings (for those cancelling their memberships)
- we only charge our fees on COLLECTED monies! (unlike our competition) Important facts: http://www.achdebit.com/sales/facts.html

i dont want to come off as spamming or anything, just wanted to show ya what seperates WTS from other ACH processors.

if anyone has any questions im always avalible to answer them.

NETbilling · 09-10-2004, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdnerAdvertising
Who do you recommend as a good merchant account fraud prevention/scrubbing/customer service/ type company?

Not sure.. any ideas?

Mitch

Drake · 09-10-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
www.intertrans.com Working great for ARS.

It says on their site that they only do check/ACH processing

Chris Mallick · 09-10-2004, 02:43 PM

A thought on this topic:

Online sales of adult content have been going on for close to 10 years (more like 9). That fact made this fact interesting to me:

In 1919, 10 years after the invention of the automobile, there were 108 auto manufacturers in the USA. Today, almost 100 years later, there are 2.5 in the USA (considering half of Chrysler is owned by Mercedes). Competition is just as strong in the US, between US manufacturers selling to consumers wanting or needing a US made automobile.

IMHO, competition will stay strong in this industry too, as long as there is more than one IPSP. I can?t guarantee it 100%, but almost, that there will be at least 2 of us left.

Another interesting fact is that even though we have had to reduce sales to chase ratios from the card associations, our costs in every single area have increased; there are fewer of us in the market, yet prices for processing have gone DOWN over the past few years.

Regardless of the number, even if there is only 1, your best, cheapest and surest option is using an IPSP. It is not hype; it is a proven fact that IPSP?s give you more money to your bottom line and the time you need to do what you do best; market your sites and traffic.

So use all of us, be set up everywhere, be prepared to move if you want or need to move processing. But don?t be mislead that fewer competitors make for less competition.

And an important point: Jettis did not ?go away?. They are very much around and involved in the ACH processing area and as consultants to EPOCH / Paycom. Jettis made a business decision to sell to Paycom; they were not forced to do anything.

C

body · 09-10-2004, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
verotel is the worst of the worst

LOL yeah and in 3 months they will go or was it "they are next" can remember that it was posted 1 year ago or was it 2 years ago LOL LOL LOL LOL

09-07-2004, 12:50 PM	#1
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	So, Jettis is gone...Does that not concern you? This is sort of old news, but the fact that Jettis is gone as a proccesor really concerns me. We are left with 2 big boys now...what happens if Epoch buys out CCBILL or vice versa, or something happens to one of those guys? We will be fucked as an indutry... __________________

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johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	There's also 2000 Charge and if you have a good sales record with less chargebacks you may be able to get your own merchant account. __________________

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09-07-2004, 12:51 PM	#2
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	get your own merchant it would actually be quite good if there were no third party processors, would cut out a lot of the competition...

09-07-2004, 12:54 PM	#4
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	what will studiocash be processing with now jettis is gone ?

09-07-2004, 12:58 PM	#6
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	There is Ibill still, so we still have 3.

09-07-2004, 02:18 PM	#14
.:St Ides:. Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,857	I myself would be concerned when there is actually only 1 or 2 left. It's not good for biz if Epoch or Ccbill buy out everyone. They need to compeat to survive. I highly doubt it will ever happen

09-07-2004, 10:47 PM	#24
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09-10-2004, 12:47 PM	#28
WTS_andy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 143	if ACH Billing is something that yall wanna do , WTS is the place to be for that. Here are a few things that separate us: - we only process U.S. checks ( thus, have NO 3rd party CC risk!) - we allow both paid and free trials - we can easily push refer codes through our system, allowing you to pay your webmasters out on "settled" check signups - we have an in-house collections dep't, to collect more monies on your behalf - we offer cross sells ( to your own sites, or our other merchants) - we have loyalty offerings (for those cancelling their memberships) - we only charge our fees on COLLECTED monies! (unlike our competition) Important facts: http://www.achdebit.com/sales/facts.html i dont want to come off as spamming or anything, just wanted to show ya what seperates WTS from other ACH processors. if anyone has any questions im always avalible to answer them.

09-10-2004, 02:43 PM	#31
Chris Mallick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Marina del Rey, CA, USA Posts: 679	A thought on this topic: Online sales of adult content have been going on for close to 10 years (more like 9). That fact made this fact interesting to me: In 1919, 10 years after the invention of the automobile, there were 108 auto manufacturers in the USA. Today, almost 100 years later, there are 2.5 in the USA (considering half of Chrysler is owned by Mercedes). Competition is just as strong in the US, between US manufacturers selling to consumers wanting or needing a US made automobile. IMHO, competition will stay strong in this industry too, as long as there is more than one IPSP. I can?t guarantee it 100%, but almost, that there will be at least 2 of us left. Another interesting fact is that even though we have had to reduce sales to chase ratios from the card associations, our costs in every single area have increased; there are fewer of us in the market, yet prices for processing have gone DOWN over the past few years. Regardless of the number, even if there is only 1, your best, cheapest and surest option is using an IPSP. It is not hype; it is a proven fact that IPSP?s give you more money to your bottom line and the time you need to do what you do best; market your sites and traffic. So use all of us, be set up everywhere, be prepared to move if you want or need to move processing. But don?t be mislead that fewer competitors make for less competition. And an important point: Jettis did not ?go away?. They are very much around and involved in the ACH processing area and as consultants to EPOCH / Paycom. Jettis made a business decision to sell to Paycom; they were not forced to do anything. C __________________ Chris Mallick [email protected]