Do you want to see Barry Bonds break the record?

[sickkittens]

Do you want to see Barry Bonds break THE record? Discuss.

[freeadultcontent]

no, and its all crooked.

[detoxed]

Maximum 2 years and its his

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by detoxed
Maximum 2 years and its his

He'll finish with 704 or so this year.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
no, and its all crooked.

He actually thinks he's better than Ruth.

[Strife]

no I don't want to see that pompus jackass break any more records especially the all time HR record.

[xclusive]

Hell no he's a steroid using bitch...

[freeadultcontent]

Originally posted by sickkittens
He actually thinks he's better than Ruth.

Fine, let him prove it. Full open medical screening for performance enhancing drugs, then additional samples kept on ice for future testing when the testing machines are better.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by Strife
no I don't want to see that pompus jackass break any more records especially the all time HR record.

What's sad is he kept saying that next year would be his last year regardless. You know he'll have at least 740 by the end of next year (probably more) - but could you really see him stopping there? I don't think so.

[69pornlinks]

he'll beat ruth but will retire before henry, why becasuce ruth is 'mr. baseball' even though i know noone who saw him play...haha

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Fine, let him prove it. Full open medical screening for performance enhancing drugs, then additional samples kept on ice for future testing when the testing machines are better.

Yeah, but I could go on and on about how playing way back was alot harder for batters.

[sickkittens]

Oh yeah, and Babe Ruth picthed for 5 full seasons at the beginning of his career. (He barely batted)

And he was a fine pitcher at that.

[freeadultcontent]

and he occassionally played sloshed.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
and he occassionally played sloshed.

Think about the conditions today. Guys nowadays complain over every little detail.

[Strife]

Originally posted by sickkittens
Oh yeah, and Babe Ruth picthed for 5 full seasons at the beginning of his career. (He barely batted)

And he was a fine pitcher at that.

plus he probably was drunk or had a hangover ever game he played ;)

[dunefield]

who is barry bonds...

[fris]

the babe is the champ, barry bonds is just some 2000's nig with some fake ass chewing gum, old school ball is what its all about.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by dunefield
who is barry bonds...

He is a DJ that no one likes who likes to break other people's records.

[sickkittens]

Did you hear about Bonds "calling his shot" yesterday? Complete bullshit.

[pxxx]

A bunch of fucking haters in this thread.

I WANT him to break that fucking record. He has worked hard and deserve it.

[TweetyBird]

Originally posted by sickkittens
He actually thinks he's better than Ruth.

this can't be, Ruth was the best !!

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by pxxx
A bunch of fucking haters in this thread.

I WANT him to break that fucking record. He has worked hard and deserve it.

Deserves it, eh? But at least admit he's no where near Ruth.

[pxxx]

Originally posted by sickkittens
Deserves it, eh? But at least admit he's no where near Ruth.

Maybe he is not Ruth, but give him some credit. Records are meant to be broken, and that is what makes any record great. The fact that people will try so hard over their careers just to break it, and most fail. So when you get that one person that actually has a chance to succeed, it is something special, and should be admired. He is getting trashed in this thread like he used a hack code for everything he has done in baseball. That is just not right if you ask me, and i want hime to break it and HOPE that he breaks it. Give the game of Baseball the next big THING.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by pxxx
Maybe he is not Ruth, but give him some credit. Records are meant to be broken, and that is what makes any record great. The fact that people will try so hard over their careers just to break it, and most fail. So when you get that one person that actually has a chance to succeed, it is something special, and should be admired. He is getting trashed in this thread like he used a hack code for everything he has done in baseball. That is just not right if you ask me, and i want hime to break it and HOPE that he breaks it. Give the game of Baseball the next big THING.

Yeah, but there should be an asterisk next to his total.

[<IMX>]

ruth played with a ton of bullshit players. MLB teams got their asses kicked by non-MLB teams all the time...keep that in mind.

Those "old school" records don't always represent the best players ;)

Originally posted by sickkittens
Yeah, but there should be an asterisk next to his total.

[Thugmaster]

Yes I want to see Barry break the record so I can unload these two 86 Topps Traded cases I've been sitting on for quite some time.

[pxxx]

Originally posted by Thugmaster
Yes I want to see Barry break the record so I can unload these two 86 Topps Traded cases I've been sitting on for quite some time.

Always good to mix it with business

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by <IMX>
ruth played with a ton of bullshit players. MLB teams got their asses kicked by non-MLB teams all the time...keep that in mind.

Those "old school" records don't always represent the best players ;)

No expansion, large parks, no juiced balls, no roids. Check out the ERA's and home run totals back then. not to mention how they traveled. Guys now adays complain about the smallest things.

I just don't think you can say he's anywhere near as good as Ruth, that's all.

[<IMX>]

Barry Bonds would kick Ruth's ass. Not much more to it. The comparison is based on nostaglia not much more.

MLB is now a game of finely tuned athletes that includes the best the world has to offer (japanese, black americans, s. americans etc.) not just white males.

Sorry not much comparison.

Originally posted by sickkittens
No expansion, large parks, no juiced balls, no roids. Check out the ERA's and home run totals back then. not to mention how they traveled. Guys now adays complain about the smallest things.

I just don't think you can say he's anywhere near as good as Ruth, that's all.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by <IMX>
Barry Bonds would kick Ruth's ass. Not much more to it. The comparison is based on nostaglia not much more.

MLB is now a game of finely tuned athletes that includes the best the world has to offer (japanese, black americans, s. americans etc.) not just white males.

Sorry not much comparison.

Finely tuned? Look at the size of rosters now and some of the pitching talent that comes up from the minors.

Did I mention that Ruth also was a pitcher during the beginning of his career. He'd have around 1,000 homers if not for that.

[ChrisExtreme]

Nope, but its gonna happen anyway!

[<IMX>]

As I said, that was back in the day with a very limited talent pool. Ruth was in at the majors at 19. That would be pretty difficult for even the best of players today.

As for the players, back then they cheated like mad as well with dirt, licorice and tobacco juice
and anything else they coulod get their hands on.
(same as today lol)

The other important part is nostalgia. Ppl love the "legend" of Ruth.

Sorry, but the overall level of the game is faster and generally better. In addition the skill set of the average player has increased as well as their strength and dimensions, and the overall diversity has brought more people to the game (its wordlwide now). For instance, that imposing 6'2" 215 frame of Ruth's is now much more common place.

It is a very very different game now, along with many other sports.

Originally posted by sickkittens


Finely tuned? Look at the size of rosters now and some of the pitching talent that comes up from the minors.

Did I mention that Ruth also was a pitcher during the beginning of his career. He'd have around 1,000 homers if not for that.

[Goatse]

I'd rather see Ichiro Suzuki beat Geroge Sisler's record of 257 hits in a season. He has a great shot at it.

[Doctor Dre]

Yea but no1 want to pitch to him any fucking way ... won't happen

[Gheenz]

Originally posted by ChrisExtreme
Nope, but its gonna happen anyway!

Agreed.

But even if Bonds breaks Ruth's record, it still won't be valid in my mind (probably like a lot of you). Ruth is a legend. The greatest the game has seen. He didn't do steroids, played in the dead ball era, hit against some of the game's best pitchers ever, and was probably the most loved man in America at the time (try saying that about Bonds...hell, his own teammates hate him!). Bonds is the posterboy for greed, arrogance, selfishness, and juiced up baseball. Everything the game is today.

[Giorgio_Xo]

Yes. He is the greatest player of the second half of the 20th Century.

[Giorgio_Xo]

Originally posted by NickHimself
Agreed.

But even if Bonds breaks Ruth's record, it still won't be valid in my mind (probably like a lot of you). Ruth is a legend. The greatest the game has seen. He didn't do steroids, played in the dead ball era, hit against some of the game's best pitchers ever, and was probably the most loved man in America at the time (try saying that about Bonds...hell, his own teammates hate him!). Bonds is the posterboy for greed, arrogance, selfishness, and juiced up baseball. Everything the game is today.

Ruth played coked up. Pitchers were shit back then. A good fastball was 85 MPH. Fielders weren't in as good of shape to chase down balls.