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McKracken 09-05-2004 01:08 PM

you did take screen caps correct?

if not you did videofilm it all correct?

If not u stink and should re think if you got enough brainpower... no proff equals no credibillity!

:banana

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-05-2004 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
Ask for an audit.

:1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 09-05-2004 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swoop
so bgraham posts once with his problem and hasn't replied since.

think we will hear from him again?


he is probably waiting for a response... ( from the sponsor )

alias 09-05-2004 01:17 PM

It would help his credibility if he posted again, did anyone call him?

TheSwed 09-05-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by egonetworks
I still want to see a reply from ***

WarChild 09-05-2004 01:32 PM

Triple X Cash are among the most stand up guys I've ever come across in this business.

I find it very, very difficult to believe that they are shaving webmasters. I'd need concrete evidence to even consider it.

I doubt it's true.

http 09-05-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alias
It would help his credibility if he posted again, did anyone call him?

Post again for what? To argue with hypocrits with an agenda?

IntenseCash 09-05-2004 01:57 PM

We allow test signups at anytime. Affiliates should be paid for every sale they generate. He contacted them after doing a test signup so I don't really see how that would be a problem.

Mark

emthree 09-05-2004 02:03 PM

I wasted my time reading up to this point, but still no responce? :helpme

Paolo 09-05-2004 02:19 PM

This is such bullshit.

I guess I should read the board more often. : )

I talked to him and solved his problem. There was a spot where the referal stats were showing different only for the pay per sign up referers.

We had the program people fix this and there was no issue.

I tlked to this guy myself and we solved his problem. What else can I do to help people out then answer there questions.

For this he slams us and as far s I am concerned he can take his 2 sales a week and send them somewhere else.

:thumbsup

Kel 09-05-2004 02:32 PM

Hey Paulo...

You guys pay on 1-900 sign-ups we send to you? Just askin.

Sure they are a small % of sales. But they are sales, nonetheless.

Thanks.

Fabien 09-05-2004 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
or french
Va donc chier :1orglaugh

Paolo 09-05-2004 02:45 PM

Well.

This guy was sending for the 30 dollar pay per sign up.

Is stats that you do not get credit for the trial.

There was a difference in the two areas. We have been adding a new mysql server and moving data bases. We caught in when the webmaster informed me.

That is just about all of it.
He also called and gave me usernames of so called members.
I asked ccbill which processes 95% of all sales and not one of them worked.
I have some icq histories with them to back it up. I am sure they would be more and happy to verify averything that I stated.

Tis is the firt time anyone has ever questioned our creditbility. It is totaly wrong to make such claims with no proof

bgraham 09-05-2004 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by fris
weird never had any problem with triplexcash my ratio with little april has been always low.

thanks for bringing this up

Well, my sales were zilch even after I signed up so what's up with that?

Robert

bgraham 09-05-2004 02:50 PM

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Originally posted by swoop
How much was the lost revenue?
Hard to say. I can only determine at least 3 but there were likely more out of all the hits I got.

Robert

bogo 09-05-2004 02:53 PM

if your not happy with a sponser,just redirect your traffic elsewhere.
problem solved :2 cents:

bgraham 09-05-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
so what other programs have you defrauded by joining the sites under your own referral code?
I beg your pardon? Better watch who you're accusing of defrauding. I paid for my test - $34.95 to be exact, so why is that defrauding? I paid for my test which is NOT fraud. Please retract your statement.

Let me remind you that I signed up using my link since that is the only way I could have tested them. had I signed up using your link, then my test would have failed.

For my test TripleXCash made $34.95 for the phone call. Where is the fraud in that?

Robert

bgraham 09-05-2004 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
bgraham
Sep 2004
Posts: 1


If you have any solid proof of shaving...Post it. Otherwise...STFU.

And your terms say that webmasters will be paid for sales. Let me remind you that as a webmaster I must protect my revenue. If I never had signed up using my link I would have never been alerted to the fact that you do have a problem because if you'll recall, days later I phoned you asking why my stats showed no sales when in fact I had made a sale a few days prior. You were unaware I was talking about a sale I had made and you passed the conversation off like there was no sales. Once I explained and provided you with my username you seemed shocked; I guess because you never expected that test because of what your terms say. Do you terms say this to prevent webmaster tests such as mine, or what? Besides, that specific term is unenforceable because even though the signup was made from my link, the signup was paid. I've already received and paid my telephone bill that reflects that $34.95 charge.

Now, if the signup from my link resulted in no charge to me but generated a commission then that clause would be enforceable, but since it was a paid test, what difference does it make who signs up - a random surfer or myself?

Again, it was only done to test your system in to protect my revenue to ensure you are on the up and up, and I guess it was a good thing that I did test.

Robert

Paolo 09-05-2004 03:03 PM

Quote:

I beg your pardon? Better watch who you're accusing of defrauding. I paid for my test - $34.95 to be exact, so why is that defrauding? I paid for my test which is NOT fraud. Please retract your statement.

Wow a real statement.

Well phone sales are like maybe1 or 2 percent. Since it takes us 30 days to get paid. We do not show it right away in the stats untill we get paid. We do this because we get a bunch of fraud running a program.Now we are going to change over to ccbill which will paya bunch sooner

Here is a good thing we never really bragged about.
We offer check sales. almost half of the check sales do not go though. They get returned by the bank all the time.
Triplexcash eats all the returns and pays the webmasters anyways.

We did the numbers and decided when we frst started to do this and never changed it.

Cheers

bgraham 09-05-2004 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Oops. :1orglaugh
Sorry, the only way to prove this is to post the affected usernames and passwords and I am sure you can understand that I cannot do this.

Again let me assure you that shaving took place with at least thre signups because I verified the logins did work. I cannot see how these three different people could have made them up.

Robert

WarChild 09-05-2004 03:05 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Paolo, Kevin and the rest of the Triple X Cash crew are amongst the most stand up guys I've ever met.

When I first started in this business, some 5+ years ago, Paolo was the only person that would give me the time of day. Already an affiliate program owner, he took the time to personally help me get started. I can assure you he didn't make a lot of money on me during that time, if he made any at all. None the less, he helped me week after week, month after month.

Then came College Fuck Fest. Again, you could talk to Kevin or Paolo, and they'd break their backs to help you out. When Website Billing went out of business, Paolo and Kevin paid EVERY affiliate out of their own pockets. Even though they warned us to move to ccbill, they paid us none the less.

Now you want me to believe that these same guys are shaving your sales? When you're in the league that Triple X's owners are, you don't need to shave some fledgling webmaster 2 sales a week.

Absolute bullshit. Paolo has already responded to you here. Case fucking closed.

Paolo 09-05-2004 03:07 PM

Quote:

Once I explained and provided you with my username you seemed shocked;
Yes. I saw a problem and did not like it.
It was fixed right away so what is your problem??

strats 09-05-2004 03:07 PM

what a bunch of dumb ass fag cu.nt sore munching dumb ass fhegz

bgraham 09-05-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
No such thing as ironclad proof huh?

Does PIBCash ring any bells?

How much more proof than valid usernames and passwords do you need?

AliciaK 09-05-2004 03:14 PM

Triple X Cash did not Shave your sales. Take a run back though Paolo's responses.


Stop sending traffic to Triple X Cash if you have a problem with them. Your problems ( in your mind) will be over.

The next time you sign up to a sponsor I would suggest you read the TOS. the TOS you agree to. If you don't agree with the TOS don't send traffic to them. it's really that simple.

Paolo 09-05-2004 03:15 PM

Quote:

How much more proof than valid usernames and passwords do you need
Ask Sean at CCbill. He can show you the icq logs I had with him looking for those usernames and none were found.
You gave me like 4 of them and I could not find them anywhere.

Are you sure they were not from surfers trying to scam you out of the free memberships you offered them??

I have proof they did not exist from the processors

Tom_PMs 09-05-2004 03:18 PM

Ah.. nevermind, answered already

bgraham 09-05-2004 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paolo
Yes. I saw a problem and did not like it.
It was fixed right away so what is your problem??

This is beginning to turn into a fighting match which is not good, however I now see where your problem lies. I notice that when I click on signup by telephone it does not resolve my affiliate id in the top address bar like it does with a credit card signup. I'm sure this was the case too when I conducted my test signup. Since this is the case I can see why I would not be receiving credit for the sale. I suggest that you double check your system to ensure that the affiliate id shows up on a 1-900 sale.

Oh and by the way, your 1-900 billing is not through ccBill.

I never meant to bash your company; your sites appear to be tops and your layout is excellent. This only started because I don't like to feel as I am being cheated and it appears that I was since My signup never credited and then was notified by 3 other people that they had signed up but nothing was credited.

The usernames and passwords I provided to you did work; how can you say they were invalid? I tested them myself. If need be I shall post them in this forum for all others to see, and we can let everyone confirm they are working.

Robert

Theo 09-05-2004 03:22 PM

Very possible the username you got provided by surfers to be fake ones. I'm getting customer support emails with fake receipt IDs all the time.

nevermind my post, i just read your last reply.

bgraham 09-05-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Oops. :1orglaugh
Let me remind you that I paid for my test. Where is the 'defraud' in that?

Robert

pradaboy 09-05-2004 03:27 PM

i dunno what of this is true but I do know *** does below 1:200 for me so if they're shaving off of that they deserve it :thumbsup

Paolo 09-05-2004 03:27 PM

Robert.

We talked to you every day. I will check the phone sales on tuesday and track from them if anysales are counted for you affiliate. id

Then I will talk to our lawyers and see if I should take legal action.

We talked on Thursday and I guess it was better to just slam us instead of us trying to solve the issue.



:(

Sin_Vraal 09-05-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bgraham
Dear fellow webmasters:

I run several adult websites and until recently, adverised many of TripleXCash websites. When I noticed that I was never generating any sales for them I did a ghost test by signing myself. And to my amazement, my sale did not register. After contacting them they admitted that there was a problem and they later 'manually' credited my sale.

I then felt that I needed to test them further so I advertised on my sites that I would give surfers FREE access to my galleries if they signed up for one of the advertised sites if the surfer provides me with the username and password for verification of their signup. I received three emails notifying me of signups to a TripleXCash site but sill no sales registered. When I verified that each username and password was indeed valid I again contacted Roseanne at TripleXCash and was told those usernames were invalid. Now they are completely ignoring me.

I posted basically this same message on their discussion board but somehow the thread dissappeared and can you believe that they deleted my login?

So, as a webmaster you should 'test' your affiliate programs to ensure thay are crediting your sales as promised. TripleXCash has breached their own contract and my message to them is that if this issue is not resolved promptly I shall take them to small claims court to recover lost revenue. There is no reason why this should have happened. Now, as far as I'm concerned they cannot be trusted.

I received a telephone call earlier today from a nice gentlemen who tod me that my thread on their board caught his attention because up until recently, his conversion ratio with TripleXCash was something like 1:150 but recently it has dropped to approximately 1:975 so maybe he is having a problem to and was glad to find out about this and that he sall be conducting a test or two also. He also agrees that we are not in the business of providing free advertising.

Thanks for listening. Feel free to contact me at 559-288-4131 if you think you have been cheated to. Thank you.

Robert Graham
adult-media.net

You know what? After Website billing fucked many of us out of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, Triple X cash Paid ALL OF US 100% for sales lost on WSB. They didnt get a dime from them, it came out of their pockets.

Triple X cash pays you every week, 2 weeks after you start. Basically what I hear is some nobody made a signup, checked the system if it was instantly credited. Did you ever stop to think that maybe it was still going through the system at ccbill? Do you have a Bank record or some other proof? Do you even know how to read your stats?


Quote:

I then felt that I needed to test them further so I advertised on my sites that I would give surfers FREE access to my galleries if they signed up for one of the advertised sites if the surfer provides me with the username and password for verification of their signup. I received three emails notifying me of signups to a TripleXCash site but sill no sales registered.
WTF IS THIS? You asked some ppl if they had signed up? "Yea I uh signed up on the system... my user/pass is this... But it didnt work... can I have a new user/pass?" ... Hmm. wonder if they were trying to get a free passwd

As far as I'm concerned, I do good sales w/ ***, I get paid on time , and I get paid well. Why would I care about some loser who has no record of his sales. Some random gallery surfers CLAIM they had a membership? They were probably just bitching and trying to get a free membership.

My links will remain up. Never seen *** shave. Not once since they started 5 years ago.

I mean seriously who the fuck are you? Some dude so hungry for money that he makes up a BS post on a board to get some crack money?

Is this your 'biggest site?' (from your sig)
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...dult-media.net

Seriously, Stop being a drama queen.

jimmyf 09-05-2004 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe
this may be the first time I actually read EVERY reply in a 2 page thread.

I find all of this very Interesting.


really

Interesting you find it Interesting :Graucho

stevecore 09-05-2004 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paolo
Yes. I saw a problem and did not like it.
It was fixed right away so what is your problem??

any chance on getting my stats double checked since I am currently running some traffic to little april? sales dropped off a bit today. :)

Paolo 09-05-2004 04:15 PM

Steve.
Ya of couse I would be more hen happy to on Tuesday. Everyone is off on Monday.

optatio 09-05-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sin_Vraal

WTF IS THIS? You asked some ppl if they had signed up? "Yea I uh signed up on the system... my user/pass is this... But it didnt work... can I have a new user/pass?" ... Hmm. wonder if they were trying to get a free passwd

Seriously Wtf. how many times does he need to tell you stupid fuckS That He tested all 3 accounts and they worked.

Not saying it's true as i've never tested them. But Jesus Fucking Christ, Learn How To Read.

stevecore 09-05-2004 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paolo
Steve.
Ya of couse I would be more hen happy to on Tuesday. Everyone is off on Monday.

thanks man, thatd be perfect since thats when the run should be ending.

wtfent 09-05-2004 04:50 PM

Yea, I knew something was up with them.

WarChild 09-05-2004 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wtfent
Yea, I knew something was up with them.
You know what's up with them?

Checks that cash.
Sites that convert.
Ownership that gives a shit.

You're right, something up indeed.


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