theres a right way to do things , and there is a wrong way to do things..

I wouldn't make any such suggestion. My suggest would be for him to STFU if he does not have the proof.


It's really quite simple.

If you can prove it....Go for it.

Have you EVER seen a prosecutor go to the courts with a case and no supporting evidence?

No.

Why not? Because they know they will lose and take a risk of a lawsuit so they never even seek an indictment

If your intent is to defraud the sponsor with "test signups" - then yes, you should rot in hell. However, he brought it to their attention and it was only used to see if they truely were shaving.

I don't think there's anything wrong with busting a shaver - if *** really is shaving - I can't decide that one.

Well he has a proof for himself but not for you.

He has documented signups that weren't creditted to him - he has the URLs they used - he has his ref code; if he can post those, what more proof do you want? A sworn statement by *** that they are shaving his account?

Accept this is not a court, and he does have some (circumstantial, but some) evidence. :2 cents:

just hitting you up...:)

He doesn't have a proof to show here on the board but when his account wouldn't be deleted he'd have a proof in court, BUT a sponsor can always tell "system failure we're sorry but it wasn't our fault", now proof something different.

I have been in the courts for years. There is no such thing as ironclad proof ( see o.j. trial )

I don't think the guy should have stated "SHAVED" he should have merely stated the facts and asked for an explanation if he felt the sponsor was dicking him around.

So far i see no SHAVE or PROOF of shave either, i merely see a bunch of facts. Easily answered by the sponsor.

That would be pretty solid proof. :thumbsup


And Officer newbreed.....

GFY is a court of sorts. Perhaps not a legal one but people are tried and convicted on these very pages every day.

Fiddy cheaters

That would be my point.

Thank you.

I still want to see a reply from ***

I would agree, a "Court of Peers".

I also think Smokey made a good point, thread title and subject could have leaned more toward "an un-named sponsor seems to have a problem reporting my sales, what do you guys think, and what should I do to resolve the issue?" or something like that.

Then go ask for one on their board instead of GFY.

exactly , but sponsor's and courts dont deal in INTENT they deal with RULES.

The simple fact is , almost no sponsor allows such a test without prior notification ( thus making the test signup useless i.e. shave turn off )

All sponsors should allow a test signup as long as the affiliate notifies the sponsor within 48 hours of the "test"

I know of several "anti-fraud" related software some affiliates use that would explain why this guy did not get the trial signup go through on his affiliate account.

your welcome , i didn't want you to blow a fuse or anything :1orglaugh

So which side are you on now?

Actually its about not jumping on the band wagon about
things I don't have direct proof of.

But he also mentioned his users doing sign ups.I doubt we'll see a *** statement here because they aren't around often, beside somebody notifies them about this thread.

I'd prefer to leave things in court, erm, GFY.

no i would have def named the sponsor. but mine would have looked like this..

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THREAD TITLE

TRIPLEXCASH WTF IS UP ????

THREAD DETAILS

etc etc etc..

cant get an answer on the triplexcash forum and hopefully get an answer here


Most likely the sponsor ( in most cases ) can point out exactly why the user wasn't credited and the rest of gfy gets to see the outcome , and its free advertising for xxxcash from there on in..

or

The answer is shifty and people say :321GFY

Not sure where you live but I am in The United States of America.

Over here we have this saying:

"Innocent until proven guilty."

Although it is not a perfect system, I believe that statement still stands true and if you don't have the backbone to stand behind that then you are a pussy.

There is no gray area here.

Not gonna happen today....I am in one of the best moods I have been in for a long time. :)

But thank you for your concern. :thumbsup

If this is a revshare deal, then I don't see where the affiliate broke any rules by signing up. Pay per join, perhaps a case could be made.

But at the end of the day affiliates are going to check sponsors just like sponsors check affiliates with their own fraud control methods.

With that said, the thread title could have been a bit different.

But the guy did post his phone number and his real name -- I guess, I haven't actually called him lol -- so he does seem to be rather serious about the matter.

im not on anyones side.

I was only backing up the guys right to make a post.

Its impossible to draw any conclusion until we hear from ***.

This guy could be in an insane asylum and doesnt even own a pencil for all we know

Well kids...I gotta go now.

I just got a phone call from a hottie asking me on a lunch date.
















































....OK...So it's really my sister but WTF? I beats chatting with you fuckers all day long. :glugglug

can someone save me some popcorn?

TripleXcash has been good with me, and i have not had any problems. IF they did shave any of my sales, i wouldn't know because i was always doing well with them, and my ratio was pretty low. So, i wouldn't have any reason to go do a "test" and then notify them about it.


In this guy's situation, i just hope everything gets sorted out, and wouldn't have to go as far as court.

I don't know Kim...When I am serious about a matter...I post to the thread more than once.

But that's just me.

Gotta go now.

buh bye my love. :Graucho

Enjoy your lunch Aaron.


How old is your sister and is she looking?:Graucho

That is in no disrespect at all.:thumbsup

Damn right !:thumbsup

Read the rules. Its pretty clear


Fraudulent Activities.
If you signup to a paysite using your own linking code, we will consider your account to be fraud and you will not be paid at all.



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i do agree with you though

this may be the first time I actually read EVERY reply in a 2 page thread.

I find all of this very Interesting.

glad I do not promote em!

More rippers!

they all fucking shave man, anyone who has their own stats/payout shaves guaranteed.

The douchebags that don't want to set the shave up right and use some shit script or ccbill no pay on rebill option seem get the most attention.

If I feel cheated I move on. even if I can prove ive been cheated, I am wasting my time. what will I achive trying to warn everyone about a shaving sponsor, the more traffic ppl waste throwing at a bad sponsor the more traffic I got to throw at sponsors worth throwing at.

Ask for an audit.

I like Triplexcash and they've been good for me for quite some time.
If a sponsor shaves I'd think they would only shave a small % not 100%.
Do you see clicks counted?

so bgraham posts once with his problem and hasn't replied since.

think we will hear from him again?