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Old 09-04-2004, 11:41 AM   #51
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NEWS FROM RUSSIA
http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/04/04/53197.html
title: Defense minister Ivanov rules out pardon for Chechen rebel leader Maskhadov


MOS(cow) NEWS
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/02/chechen.shtml
title: Chechen Rebel Leader Promises Fiercer War


and that's the 2 first two queries i found, no doubt i can find zillion references.

What do you have to say about this? Bush to blame for that as well?
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:43 AM   #52
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even from today's news

http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/09/04/55865.html


Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia and overcame separatist rebels holding hundreds of hostages as ......
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:44 AM   #53
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Yesterday I showed you that major Russian media call chechens as rebels too.
Here one of native major Russian media which has an English version: http://www.rbcnews.com/

BTW, be sure to bookmart the link above. It's really big and independent Russian media source.
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:46 AM   #54
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Here one of native major Russian media which has an English version: http://www.rbcnews.com/

BTW, be sure to bookmart the link above. It's really big and independent Russian media source.

and your point is? You hate CNN. FOX, Bush etc for using the term rebel while major russian medias even today use the same term. You also claimed that this never happed and I proved you wrong. I never doubted there are russian and other media that use the word terrorists.
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:51 AM   #55
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NEWS FROM RUSSIA
http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/04/04/53197.html
title: Defense minister Ivanov rules out pardon for Chechen rebel leader Maskhadov


MOS(cow) NEWS
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/08/02/chechen.shtml
title: Chechen Rebel Leader Promises Fiercer War


and that's the 2 first two queries i found, no doubt i can find zillion references.

What do you have to say about this? Bush to blame for that as well?
Did YOU read these articles??? They were written before September 1. And they are really related to REBELS. But I'm talking about those bastards who kill the children yesterday! Half of them WERE not Chechens at all - they were ARABS. Can you see a difference?
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:53 AM   #56
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Did YOU read these articles??? They were written before September 1. And they are really related to REBELS. But I'm talking about those bastards who kill the children yesterday! Half of them WERE not Chechens at all - they were ARABS. Can you see a difference?

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even from today's news

http://newsfromrussia.com/main/2004/09/04/55865.html


Commandos stormed a school Friday in southern Russia and overcame separatist rebels holding hundreds of hostages as ......


separatist rebels

I do not saying I agree with the term (the opposite),but before starting blaming the western media, have a look at your local ones.
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:54 AM   #57
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and your point is? You hate CNN. FOX, Bush etc for using the term rebel while major russian medias even today use the same term. You also claimed that this never happed and I proved you wrong. I never doubted there are russian and other media that use the word terrorists.
Please show me a quote where those child murders called rebels.
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:56 AM   #58
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read above

btw gotta go,soccer started,ill catch with the thread later :-)
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:58 AM   #59
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and here's your reply:

separatist rebels

I do not saying I agree with the term (the opposite),but before starting blaming the western media, have a look at your local ones.
Actually I don't really think that newsfromrussia.com is a true Russian media. Perhaps its editorial team is located somewhere in the USA... I didn't even know about such a resource before your post.
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Old 09-04-2004, 01:25 PM   #60
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Calm down don't watch the media that you don't like and everything is ok.Why do you care about some children who died in russia but not about children in africa or in other countries who get killed every day.

Life is like that and doesn't get better through your hate.Do you really think somebody would care more when he sees pictures of dead people?
We care about the slaughter in the Sudan by the muslims but the UN can do nothing because "France" and China will veto anything that comes up. So take it to the UN.

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Old 09-04-2004, 03:02 PM   #61
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What's your problem with the media, that they're calling them rebels and not terrorists? WTF?

They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya.

I hate CNN because that doesn't even make the news.
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Old 09-04-2004, 03:06 PM   #62
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Here is a fact that you can not rely on any of the news stories when they first come out. You have to wait til they get the facts which takes time. The way things are run now he news is forced to run a news alert even before they know the story and they get a lot of things wrong...
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Old 09-04-2004, 03:07 PM   #63
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They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya.
Did you mean 100,000 Russian (not Chechen!) children that were killed in Chechnya during Dudaev's ethnic cleaning???
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Old 09-04-2004, 03:20 PM   #64
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They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya.
BTW, how many Japanese children were killed by Americans in Hiroshima? So according to your logic, Japanese people should start killing your children and we have to justify that? Right? Sorry man, but I can't understand such stupid position.
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Old 09-04-2004, 03:29 PM   #65
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BTW, how many Japanese children were killed by Americans in Hiroshima? So according to your logic, Japanese people should start killing your children and we have to justify that? Right? Sorry man, but I can't understand such stupid position.
Did I say it was justified or did I say they were rebel fighters?

Who's stupid here? Learn to read.



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Old 09-04-2004, 03:35 PM   #66
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We care about the slaughter in the Sudan by the muslims but the UN can do nothing because "France" and China will veto anything that comes up. So take it to the UN.

lmfao, ignorance is bliss.
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Old 09-04-2004, 03:38 PM   #67
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Actually I don't really think that newsfromrussia.com is a true Russian media. Perhaps its editorial team is located somewhere in the USA... I didn't even know about such a resource before your post.
See, smart people don't assume things out of nowhere. Actually it's an 80 year old Russian newspaper that went online after being shut down at the end of communism in 1991.
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Old 09-04-2004, 03:46 PM   #68
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Did I say it was justified or did I say they were rebel fighters? Who's stupid here? Learn to read.
So why did you write this: "They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya"???
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So why did you write this: "They are rebel fighters, fighting against the massacre of over 40,000 Chechnian children and the occupation of Chechnya"???
Right, that's what they are.

It doesn't mean I agree with their killing of children, I don't. It means I know the story and their motives.

Let me guess, you think they attacked you on Sept. 11th because Bin Laden hates your freedom, right?

They did this because they're Chechnian separatists rebels. They want Russia to leave Chechnya. I don't agree with them but that's what they are. No sense in being ignorant and calling them Al Qaeda or some other bullshit.
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