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I took those pics in my backyard

reynold

i think i've seen this around here before...

Gottis

Never seen those pics before. Did the developing take that long...

All I'm wondering is: why the heck did not anybody see a Boeing crash into the pentagon? Are there any eyewitness reports that support this claim at all? Hook me up with links.

VirtuMike

Yeah after four years they SHOULD be able to make a believable scenario...

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I posted this before.. but here we go again



"On a Metro train to National Airport, Allen Cleveland looked out the window to see a jet heading down toward the Pentagon. 'I thought, "There's no landing strip on that side of the subway tracks,"' he said. Before he could process that thought, he saw 'a huge mushroom cloud. The lady next to me was in absolute hysterics.'"
- "Our Plane Is Being Hijacked." Washington Post, 12 Sep 2001
"I was supposed to have been going to the Pentagon Tuesday morning at about 11:00am (EDT) and was getting ready, and thank goodness I wasn't going to be going until later. It was so shocking, I was listening to the news on what had happened in New York, and just happened to look out the window because I heard a low flying plane and then I saw it hit the Pentagon. It happened so fast... it was in the air one moment and in the building the next..."
- "U.S. Under Attack: Your Eyewitness Accounts." BBC News, 14 Sep 2001


"As I approached the Pentagon, which was still not quite in view, listening on the radio to the first reports about the World Trade Center disaster in New York, a jetliner, apparently at full throttle and not more than a couple of hundred yards above the ground, screamed overhead. ... Seconds before the Pentagon came into view a huge black cloud of smoke rose above the road ahead. I came around the bend and there was the Pentagon billowing smoke, flames and debris, blackened on one side and with a gaping hole where the airplane had hit it."
- "Eyewitness at the Pentagon." Human Events, 17 Sep 2001



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Searchers on Friday found the flight data and cockpit voice recorders from the hijacked plane that flew into the Pentagon and exploded, Department of Defense officials said.

The two ``black boxes,'' crucial to uncovering details about the doomed flight's last moments, were recovered at about 4 a.m., said Army Lt. Col. George Rhynedance, a Pentagon spokesman.

Rhynedance said the recorders were in the possession of the FBI, and that officials from the National Transportation Safety Board were providing technical assistance in reading any data they contain.

Dick Bridges, deputy manager for Arlington County, Va., said the voice recorder was damaged on the outside and the flight data recorder was charred. But he said the FBI still was confident the data can be recovered from both.

Bridges said the recorders were found ``right where the plane came into the building.''




...DNA identifications for Flight 93 victims were sent to the Somerset County Coroner's Office for release. The Department of Defense released identification of Pentagon victims. All but four who worked in the Pentagon were identified. AFIP identified all but one of the passengers of Flight 77.




They point out the plane hitting the pentagon on a video here:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dy...ures/index.html


You can SEE the commercial plane!

Preacher

thanks for posting... interesting urls

arg

Is there some doubt among conspiracy theorists that a plane hit the Pentagon on 9/11? If there was, I wouldn't think hose photos would convince the skeptics. Most of the pics could be shot of wreckage anywhere, and the two or so photos that include both debris and the Pentagon would have been easy to photoshop, especailly compared to all the other fakery that must have already been used.

VeriSexy

If only the government release video footage I am sure the pentagon always has had more cameras than anywhere on earth. It's one of the most important buildings in the US so I am sure they must have video footage. I read they even confiscated videos from near by gas stations.

Why not show it to the public? They more secrets they keep, the more people guess.

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GiantGnome

They do have footage of the plane hitting the pentagon. I saw it either that day or day after on cnn. Right after they showed it though the government took the film.

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Dirty F

All the retards ignore the facts. They can watch a 2 hour conspiracy movie that keeps saying no plane hit the Pentagon and they believe it. The movie simply ignores the facts and evidence that a plane crashed into the pentagon and makes up its own story. Pretty sad and annoying. And then all the sheep go oooooh aaahhh you see the govermnent is hiding something. Idiots.

Mr Dickovitch

This is why Bush will win. Three years later you stupid democrat fucks are still trying to determine if it was two planes that flew into the twin towers. You fucking retards.

Go move to France and suck Muslim cock like you've been dreaming about.

kenny

Plane hitting Pentagon video:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dy...ures/index.html

Located on this page. You have to watch that CNN news clip they point it out. The plane is almost on ground level

johnbosh

its a small plane then

VeriSexy

Can't find it

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Scott McD

So for the people doubting if a plane did hit it or not, what are they suggesting did happen ?

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kenny

Damn it

It was there yesterday.. they changed the fucking page

Let me invest some time and try to find it again

jimmyf

Fact this proves it takes all kinds of people 2 make up this world.

oh idiots and moron's included.

did a plane crash into the Pentagon,

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People have said could have been a painted global hawk





Very easy to mistake it for a passenger plane when it's painted with right colors and going very fast.

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http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dyn...res/index.html

Long URL. I had copied it from a post I made earlier and I guess the board phrased it

VeriSexy

Thanks

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/US/03/07...agon.pictures/

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johnbosh

i cant see the vid

crockett

oh give me a break dude.. that plane isn't even 1/3rd the size of a jet airliner.. It would have maybe gone through 1 set of walls but not 3 rings of buildings like the the crash did at the pentagon.

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VeriSexy

Size does not matter in this cause, there are missiles much smaller and can do just as much damage. Have you ever heard of a hellfire missile? You can arm these UAVs with warheads....... And from the video I just saw, you can't see much of the plane at all. If the video had sound, you would be able to tell for sure. All passenger planes make allot of noise and can be heard from far away.

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VeriSexy

This is the newest tech that the millitary has, they can be used for spying or as weapons cause you can guide when with remote right into targets.

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crockett

do you wear tin foil hats? I hear it might have been the aliens, the inquirer once reported george bush was controled by aliens and has a evil plan to take over the world.

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VeriSexy

Please read about bunker busters, they are small but they can bust very deep into targets. This shows that size does not matter.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/bunker-buster.htm

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crockett

this thing is so small it would have been lucky to break a window at the Pentagon.

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VeriSexy

Just shows you know nothing about weapons. You think all missiles need to be huge to cause damage? If that was the cause, F-18s F-22s would become useless cause they would be too big and heavy to even fit on these jets.

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mms://demandcnn.stream.aol.com/cnn/us/2002/03/07/jm.pent.photos.cnn.med.asf

I am trying to download it chop the frame out and blow it up 800x

crockett

well a nuclear bomb can make a big explosion too but it doesn't mean that's what happened.. Just let's assume it was some secret plan by the aliens controlling George Bush.. What happened to the plane? did it disappear into a time vortex or did the alien mother ship use it's laser beams and capture it?

Like the little midget from fantasy island once said " da plane, da plane".. well were is da plane?

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kenny

Fuck it. I am not investing anymore time on that.

But for you conspiracy people here is a excellent way to prove your case.

Find a way to download that video then cut the frame out and blow it up 800x.

We would then be able to tell if it's a commercial plane.

Here is the thing though..

If that isn't the plane then WTF happened to the plane??

VeriSexy

It has been noted that flight 77 totally disappeared off the radar screen over Ohio. How can a passenger plane get off radar? The US has the best rader tech in the world.

Maybe it landed and all the passengers were murdered and the plane was destroyed.

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At 8:50 a.m. on September 11, 2001 Flight 77 asked for clearance to fly higher. That was the last radio message air traffic controllers received from the flight. At 8:56 a.m., over southern Ohio, Flight 77's IFF transponder stopped signaling. At this point there was no radio, no transponder and no radar contact with the plane. At 9:05 a.m. West Virginia flight control radar picked up an eastbound plane with no accompanying transponder identification, but not until 9:24 a.m. ATCs notify NORAD of its existence. At 9:25 a.m. the FAA informed the Secret Service that air raffic controllers had a no-transponder radar blip headed toward Washington D.C. At 9:26 the FAA head, Jane Garvey, issues the order forbidding all civilian, military and law-enforcement aircraft from taking off ( a restriction that remained in force until 10:31 a.m.) and for all aircraft in the air to get down as soon as reasonable. Thus ready interceptor aircraft at Andrews Air Force Base, just 15 miles away do not take off. At 9:30 a.m. Chris Stevenson is called by Secret Service and told to look for a plane heading for Washington. Stevenson finds it on the radar scope five miles to the West of him. He looks out the window and sees Flight 77 descending and turning right. This fits the description of many witnesses who saw the Boeing 757 diving at an irrecoverable angle" before the crash. But at this same time a different Dulles air traffic controller is tracking a blip headed straigt for Washington at 500 mph and she wonders if it can be Flight 77 although she remarks that the blip behaves more like that of a jet fighter. At 9:37 a.m. the radar blip was lost, ending at point indicating a position six miles from the Pentagon. . Minutes later there is a crash at the Pentagon, reports of the exact time varying from 9:37 to 9:45 a.m. Fireman Alan Wallace sees Flight 77 25 feet above the higher ground of the hill west of the Pentagon and coming at him. Sizing up the situation he turns and runs for cover under a nearby vehicle. He does not see the crash.

http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon_old.htm

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baddog

I am not going to follow links, or read thru this entire thread . . . just answer me this please: are there those of you that don't think a jet crashed into the Pentagon?

For those of you that don't believe it . . . please get a vasectomy or kill yourself.

Thank you

crockett

you should at least read this part..

kinda sums it all up in my opinion

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VeriSexy

I am glad everyone is not like you, there would be not justice in this world. There would be no trial, judge or jury. You would be proven guilty with no trial.

If you would at least professional and mature, you would investigate both sides of the story and make your own judgment.

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Lykos

Me too...

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Major (Tom)

a 757 would be easilly visible. thats like a white flash. That is no 757.

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media is easily controlled, a plane hitting the pentagon was mentioned on 9/11 just once on my country news, then noone ever spoke about it

Tom_PMs

Good lord, they had time lapsed photo's of the Airliner crashing into the pentagon the same day as it fucking happened.
Christ almighty. baddog is right. Please dont breed!

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Basic_man

Those pics aren't true !

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and there is footage and it doesnt look like a plane.

also, the FBi has takern all tapes regarding surveillance from and places around the incident and have never returned them.

store owners turned over tapes without ever viewing them, simply handed them over and guess what.

they never saw the tapes again.

Hitler started fires, and we all remember nero

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SilverTab

it's mostly impossible to know for sure...so I won't act like I was there and know what happened, like most of the people in this thread are doing.... no matter what side they're on....

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I think the important issue here is lack of trust...we have gone from a nation where some might think secret groups within may have assassinated a president *For the slower ones JFK* to now thinking that our government would purposefully kill 1,000's of innocent American citizens to push a political agenda.

And why do we have such a distrust of our government?

Because all of them fuckers lie and lie just about everything.

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masterE

I actually had to rub my eyes and check the date of this thread. I watched the plane hit the pentagon on CNN. That video footage wasn't a secret, they replayed it over and over and over again.

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bullshit.

ive seen it.

please show still shots now.

it will be easy enough for you to show a plane hit then.

please post proof.

videos i have seen you cannot tell its a plane.

they had the scene cleaned up asap and had everything removed, all footage gone and remember this was a fuel filled plane, nowhre near the damage of the towers, just a hole.

proof please?

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Tom_PMs

I agree with the trust issue. But damn, it was a plane on video and pictures. Not exactly a mystery, lol.

This administration is the most tight-lipped, secretive bunch we've ever had.. They're scary and they keep us in fear all the time. They just suck.

Cheney last night, "Our enemies are bent on our destruction."

My comment to my gf, "How uplifting can you get."

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I'm not saying it wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon...but I've seen the same video and you can't really tell what it was...either way it doesn't matter in the end because there will always be a group who won't believe the answer either way.

You still have fools who still believe Lee Harvey Oswald was a "lone assassin" when even a House Select Committee ruled there was a conspiracy.

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