When will the US withdraw forces from Iraq? - GoFuckYourself.com

alexg · 08-30-2004, 02:30 PM

What do you guys think?

I believe it will be a matter of 1-2 years at most...

tony286 · 08-30-2004, 02:34 PM

We have had troops in Korea after the war there for what 40 yrs.

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 02:35 PM

As long as the petrol will be in danger ...

Methodcash Rick · 08-30-2004, 02:36 PM

It's been 60 YEARS, and we're still not out of Germany. What does that tell you....

mahoney · 08-30-2004, 02:37 PM

Oh that was just a scant we should have this whole think wrapped up by the weekend. I heard they were just putting the finishing touches on today.

dennisthemenace · 08-30-2004, 03:04 PM

It'll be a few years for the majority and the rest you won't hear about. US troops are all over the world. Won't change until the system changes from the top down.

theking · 08-30-2004, 03:27 PM

There will be American Military Forces in Iraq untill hell freezes over...or until the American people take to the streets in force...as was done during the Vietnam era. America does not usually extract all of its forces once they are deployed to a country...as history shows.

theking · 08-30-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
We have had troops in Korea after the war there for what 40 yrs.

We have had troops in Korea since the end of the 2nd World War.

Paul Waters · 08-30-2004, 04:12 PM

Bush wins: 4 years+

Kerry wins: 1 year max

Fletch XXX · 08-30-2004, 04:13 PM

1-2 years?

try NEVER.

we have bases in Okinawa, tell me why again?

We are still in countries from world wars of the past, no way in hell we leaving the middle east, EVER.

look to the past to tell the future.

have we left anywhere else after a war?

gatorpower · 08-30-2004, 04:49 PM

IMHO, the best interests of the United States rests on our ability to maintain a military presence there as long as we're a country. This doesn't mean that it's going to be another Vietnam, just that it makes strategic sense to have a base or two there (like we do in Germany, Japan, Phillipens, Cuba, Korea..etc..)

There are a couple reasons why this can turn into Vietnam and a couple reasons why it can't.

1) Vietnam's biggest alley was China (same could be said of Korea). China was a huge organized country with a developed military that had more ground troops than the US had citizens. This was one of the biggest reasons the entire war was political to begin with.

1) The Parallel: Iraq has the entire muslim nation and the middle east, which boosts ranks in the hundreds of millions. Many muslims see this as a type of holy war against the United States.

The difference is that China was a country, with organized leadership and a heirarchy system that was pretty sophisticated (as most countries tend to be). It has citizens, a military with training, one ultimate voice and autonomous governing powers. This not only made the US very cautious, it also largely influenced the decisions of the surrounding countries.

All the other countries in the muslim world are fragmented and are spread over dozens of different governents all of whom have their own objective. As long as the US doesn't start using nukes, you will never see an organized effort against the US. That was the threat only China could make. Saudi Arabi, for example, has an extremely low chance of waging any type of war against the US.

2) Vietnam used guerilla tactics against the US and was able to terrorize the pysche of our soldiers. Isreal has tried, and failed, at just about every tactic to stop these terror attacks in their own country. This is the only area that I think can be compared to Vietnam. This pretty much goes on everywhere though.

This is not so much Iraq imitating Vietnam as it is Vietnam and Iraq imitating pretty much what most conflicts end up being in modern warfare. 200 years ago, a few radical terrorists with swords and knives were wiped out and their damage was minimal (albeit in some communities, a raging horde controlled a region). In todays world, all you need is a bomb or a machine gun and suddenly a few people are 300 times more effective than 1000 bandits. It's extremely easy to use modern weaponry to make much more of an impact. It's a phenomonon that simply didn't exist before.

In any case, this war is horrible and should never have been waged. But we have no choice but to stay in there until some kind of effective government is formed. Iraq can very easily turn into Somalia or other african nations (most of whom are muslim as well) with war lords and starvation and death tolls in the hundreds of thousands. If we leave before a government can establish itself, while quilling the uprisings, then we leave only to watch them destroy themselves in coup after coup.

If anyone likes war, he's a freaking loser. Bush is a loser for getting us into this and I hope he is voted out of office, but we are left to clean up after his mistake.

Buddy · 08-30-2004, 04:53 PM

Never! It will become the 51st state and we will all be going there on vacations. We're going to put up an ArabDisney. It will be a hoot.

pure energy · 08-30-2004, 05:08 PM

I think they will pull it out in 1 or 2 years. Let's cross our fingers

fr8 · 08-30-2004, 05:53 PM

Im hoping in at least 1-2 but if bush gets his realection then its going to be alot longer.

Herb Kornfield · 08-30-2004, 05:59 PM

20+ years easily.

The powers that be will want to see some sort of return on the investment that they have made into Iraqu.

WarChild · 08-30-2004, 06:02 PM

I figure after Bush wins in Novemeber, the troops will muster up for a "Regime Change" to the North.

directfiesta · 08-30-2004, 06:03 PM

Never...

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08-30-2004, 02:30 PM	#1
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08-30-2004, 02:37 PM	#5
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08-30-2004, 03:04 PM	#6
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08-30-2004, 03:27 PM	#7
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08-30-2004, 02:34 PM	#2
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08-30-2004, 02:36 PM	#4
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	It's been 60 YEARS, and we're still not out of Germany. What does that tell you....

08-30-2004, 04:12 PM	#9
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08-30-2004, 04:13 PM	#10
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	1-2 years? try NEVER. we have bases in Okinawa, tell me why again? We are still in countries from world wars of the past, no way in hell we leaving the middle east, EVER. look to the past to tell the future. have we left anywhere else after a war? __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

08-30-2004, 04:49 PM	#11
gatorpower Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 24	IMHO, the best interests of the United States rests on our ability to maintain a military presence there as long as we're a country. This doesn't mean that it's going to be another Vietnam, just that it makes strategic sense to have a base or two there (like we do in Germany, Japan, Phillipens, Cuba, Korea..etc..) There are a couple reasons why this can turn into Vietnam and a couple reasons why it can't. 1) Vietnam's biggest alley was China (same could be said of Korea). China was a huge organized country with a developed military that had more ground troops than the US had citizens. This was one of the biggest reasons the entire war was political to begin with. 1) The Parallel: Iraq has the entire muslim nation and the middle east, which boosts ranks in the hundreds of millions. Many muslims see this as a type of holy war against the United States. The difference is that China was a country, with organized leadership and a heirarchy system that was pretty sophisticated (as most countries tend to be). It has citizens, a military with training, one ultimate voice and autonomous governing powers. This not only made the US very cautious, it also largely influenced the decisions of the surrounding countries. All the other countries in the muslim world are fragmented and are spread over dozens of different governents all of whom have their own objective. As long as the US doesn't start using nukes, you will never see an organized effort against the US. That was the threat only China could make. Saudi Arabi, for example, has an extremely low chance of waging any type of war against the US. 2) Vietnam used guerilla tactics against the US and was able to terrorize the pysche of our soldiers. Isreal has tried, and failed, at just about every tactic to stop these terror attacks in their own country. This is the only area that I think can be compared to Vietnam. This pretty much goes on everywhere though. This is not so much Iraq imitating Vietnam as it is Vietnam and Iraq imitating pretty much what most conflicts end up being in modern warfare. 200 years ago, a few radical terrorists with swords and knives were wiped out and their damage was minimal (albeit in some communities, a raging horde controlled a region). In todays world, all you need is a bomb or a machine gun and suddenly a few people are 300 times more effective than 1000 bandits. It's extremely easy to use modern weaponry to make much more of an impact. It's a phenomonon that simply didn't exist before. In any case, this war is horrible and should never have been waged. But we have no choice but to stay in there until some kind of effective government is formed. Iraq can very easily turn into Somalia or other african nations (most of whom are muslim as well) with war lords and starvation and death tolls in the hundreds of thousands. If we leave before a government can establish itself, while quilling the uprisings, then we leave only to watch them destroy themselves in coup after coup. If anyone likes war, he's a freaking loser. Bush is a loser for getting us into this and I hope he is voted out of office, but we are left to clean up after his mistake.

08-30-2004, 04:53 PM	#12
Buddy Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: FlashCa$h Headquarters Posts: 1,828	Never! It will become the 51st state and we will all be going there on vacations. We're going to put up an ArabDisney. It will be a hoot. __________________ -165486536 Disce quotidie * Ride quotidie * Ama quotidie * Cresce quotidie FlashCa$h Who the hell am I?

08-30-2004, 05:08 PM	#13
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08-30-2004, 05:53 PM	#14
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08-30-2004, 05:59 PM	#15
Herb Kornfield Is on the 1 Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philly Burbs Posts: 4,996	20+ years easily. The powers that be will want to see some sort of return on the investment that they have made into Iraqu.

08-30-2004, 06:02 PM	#16
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	I figure after Bush wins in Novemeber, the troops will muster up for a "Regime Change" to the North.

08-30-2004, 06:03 PM	#17
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