A less than original Rant by Platinum Ellise - GoFuckYourself.com

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 11:51 AM

So I have been losing sleep. Not because of anything really traumatizing but I am just royally frustrated at seeing how some people choose to be....

Here is my problem... I don't like people that go back on their word. I hated it when I was a kid, I hated in high school and I have discovered a whole new dislike for it here in the working world.

When my father did business years ago in Europe it was all done on a handshake and a verbal agreement. None of those men ever broke their word to my father, nor did my father to them. They are still working off of that same hand shake from 26 years ago.

I think it is sad that in this day and age lengthy agreements with every possible loophole covered need to be put together before we can proceed and even then they are not always solid or binding.

So what is my message? My point to this lil' tirade?

If you make a deal with someone verbally or on paper follow it through to the best of your ability. If you are unable to because of changed circumstances sit with the person you made the deal with and try to work around it. Don't make a rash decision that benefits only you at that moment in time. It will come back to bite you in the ass. Particulary in this industry where your business associates are in many cases also your close friends.

Have the backbone to stand by your word and the courage of your convictions and you will always succeed. When you look out only for number one....as important as that is... there are often natural and logical consequences to that decision.

Okay I am done. And I feel better. Thank you.

WiredGuy · 08-30-2004, 11:53 AM

I told you that url got banned on Google. I'm working on it! hehehe. Hope you feel better soon Ellisa!

WG

Jace · 08-30-2004, 11:53 AM

i could not agree more with you, i hate it when people don't live up to the their word....then what is worse is when they ignore you and the problem..

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 11:54 AM

LoL Charlie you are too funny... it is of course not that that has upset me. You followed through with it and let me know what was up!

Odie · 08-30-2004, 11:54 AM

oh boy...I knew I was supposed to do something today!!

Hope your day is going well!!

and yes you are so right Ellisa. Nothing worse than spending time with someone on a deal and then having them not follow through with it or take FOREVER getting it done!!

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by JaceXXX
i could not agree more with you, i hate it when people don't live up to the their word....then what is worse is when they ignore you and the problem..

Or worse yet in order to feel better about their poor handling of the situation they convince themselves it is your fault LOL

WiredGuy · 08-30-2004, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Ellisa
LoL Charlie you are too funny... it is of course not that that has upset me. You followed through with it and let me know what was up!

I know you weren't referring to me, I just thought I'd add a little humour to brighten up your day

WG

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
I know you weren't referring to me, I just thought I'd add a little humour to brighten up your day

WG

Thanks Charlie i so need it!

Zerof8 · 08-30-2004, 11:56 AM

"I only got two things in this world, my balls and my word, and I dont break em for nobody" - Tony Montana

jhauser · 08-30-2004, 11:56 AM

Happy Monday Ellisa. Girl I miss you I wish we could hang out more!

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Zerof8
"I only got two things in this world, my balls and my word, and I dont break em for nobody" - Tony Montana

I would steal that and put it in my sig but I have no balls

But that is a great quotation!

cool1 · 08-30-2004, 11:58 AM

I'm sorry

Tera · 08-30-2004, 12:00 PM

Is this about our "said" dinner date?

Feel better!!!

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zerof8
"I only got two things in this world, my balls and my word, and I dont break em for nobody" - Tony Montana

that's a quote pretty much nobody respect in the modern society ...

johnbosh · 08-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by Tera
Is this about our "said" dinner date?

Feel better!!!

LoL Yes! I can't believe you just didn't show up! ;)

hehe ty

toonces · 08-30-2004, 12:03 PM

Was it me? I was pretty buzzed that night in Miami...hope I didn't say things I forgot to follow up on!

Peaches · 08-30-2004, 12:03 PM

Being old, I sometimes forget to do stuff so IF I've forgotten anything, Ellisa, LMK!!

If not, then I'm glad it's not me and hope your Monday gets better!!

Theo · 08-30-2004, 12:05 PM

In what industry your father was doing business through verbal agreements and he never had problem? I would consider him very lucky.

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by toonces
Was it me? I was pretty buzzed that night in Miami...hope I didn't say things I forgot to follow up on!

No lovely it was not you although I am adding you to my ICQ so authorize me.

I would like to set up some stuff that I can hold you to later hehehe

Thanks again for the Martinis though they were delish!

B40 · 08-30-2004, 12:05 PM

Probably not related to me, but backing out of my interview today probably didn't make you feel better...sorry

JustJen · 08-30-2004, 12:05 PM

Allright. FIne. Ellisa, yes, I will be your girlfirend. Happy now?

WiredGuy · 08-30-2004, 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by EpicJen
Allright. FIne. Ellisa, yes, I will be your girlfirend. Happy now?

LaurieX · 08-30-2004, 12:08 PM

Happens to me sometimes!

Frank The Tank · 08-30-2004, 12:08 PM

alright fine ellisa ill take the vid of you and jen .. happy now

Lace · 08-30-2004, 12:09 PM

Elllisssaa!!! I lub youuu!

When you coming down again hun? We still need to meet up for dinner.

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
In what industry your father was doing business through verbal agreements and he never had problem? I would consider him very lucky.

That particular deal referred to the rights to distribute a product to prevent black ice from forming on the roads for all of the US and Canada.

You are right he was lucky I just think it is funny how 30 odd years ago my dad took that chance, but if you asked him to do the same tomorrow I know he would want it all on paper just because of the way things are now.

Sort of an inevitable transition I guess...but still sorta sad.

Frank The Tank · 08-30-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
In what industry your father was doing business through verbal agreements and he never had problem? I would consider him very lucky.

i would think any business was like that then because things were different and people where also

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by B40
Probably not related to me, but backing out of my interview today probably didn't make you feel better...sorry

I hadn't even put you on my hit list that is so minute by comparison .... but I do have your address so you may wanna sleep with one eye open in case I decide to add you LOL j/k

No worries and best of luck with your new project sounds interesting!

modF · 08-30-2004, 12:13 PM

Well spoken Ellise! Get your sleep though, karma is a real mother...

Michael O · 08-30-2004, 12:16 PM

Its really sad how things are twice I trusted someone in this business doing a lot of work for them with one I managed to get most my money but it took a long time and a lot of hassle second time never saw a dime.
Learned my lesson and don´t trust anyone no matter who they are.

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by EpicJen
Allright. FIne. Ellisa, yes, I will be your girlfirend. Happy now?

LoL that helps

B40 · 08-30-2004, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Platinum Ellisa
I hadn't even put you on my hit list that is so minute by comparison .... but I do have your address so you may wanna sleep with one eye open in case I decide to add you LOL j/k

No worries and best of luck with your new project sounds interesting!

It's too bad I no longer live at that address. And my number is changing soon too, but I can give you my new one if you want

Lace · 08-30-2004, 12:18 PM

Frank The Tank · 08-30-2004, 12:19 PM

well i trust the people who work for me because i watched them a long time to make sure of who they where and as a result ive a very strong team of dependable people working for me on forumsManager.com and my other main site babesandstuff.com

Yo Adrian · 08-30-2004, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EpicJen
Allright. FIne. Ellisa, yes, I will be your girlfirend. Happy now?

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BMI Lace
Elllisssaa!!! I lub youuu!

When you coming down again hun? We still need to meet up for dinner.

Thanks for the warm fuzzy! I will be down again very soon maybe the end of September. I will keep you posted!

punker barbie · 08-30-2004, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Ellisa
So I have been losing sleep. Not because of anything really traumatizing but I am just royally frustrated at seeing how some people choose to be....

Here is my problem... I don't like people that go back on their word. I hated it when I was a kid, I hated in high school and I have discovered a whole new dislike for it here in the working world.

When my father did business years ago in Europe it was all done on a handshake and a verbal agreement. None of those men ever broke their word to my father, nor did my father to them. They are still working off of that same hand shake from 26 years ago.

I think it is sad that in this day and age lengthy agreements with every possible loophole covered need to be put together before we can proceed and even then they are not always solid or binding.

So what is my message? My point to this lil' tirade?

If you make a deal with someone verbally or on paper follow it through to the best of your ability. If you are unable to because of changed circumstances sit with the person you made the deal with and try to work around it. Don't make a rash decision that benefits only you at that moment in time. It will come back to bite you in the ass. Particulary in this industry where your business associates are in many cases also your close friends.

Have the backbone to stand by your word and the courage of your convictions and you will always succeed. When you look out only for number one....as important as that is... there are often natural and logical consequences to that decision.

Okay I am done. And I feel better. Thank you.

darling you freakin rawk! i totally agree with you, i hate it when peeps go back on there word or dont follow through. (especially with no updates and just disappear)

FreeHugeMovies · 08-30-2004, 12:29 PM

Lace · 08-30-2004, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Platinum Ellisa
Thanks for the warm fuzzy! I will be down again very soon maybe the end of September. I will keep you posted!

thought it was the end of this month?

GTS Mark · 08-30-2004, 12:34 PM

Just send me the invoice, jesus fucking christ!!

DH

NetBabe · 08-30-2004, 12:44 PM

Alright Ellisa, I'll send traffic to Moms Need Cash and Reality Porn Pass. BTW Great work on those sites good job.

And feel better, unfortunately the world has changed, people do go back on their word, except for people like Tony Montana, usually if they promise they will kill you or hurt you in some way it will happen. If people's business relied on their word, there would be many out of business and stocks would be tanking.

As I have posted here before the 5 business rules

1. Trust No One
2. Believe Nothing
3. Sex Makes You Stupid
4. If it looks like a skunk smells like a skunk but portrays themself as a flower it probably IS A SKUNK
5. Any decision made out of emotion is a WRONG decision

There and I am sure some GFYers could concur my rules!

Take Care Ellisa, Ill send some puggy love to you from the Monty!

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BMI Lace
thought it was the end of this month?

No it was tentative but I will be there next month at some point for sure and again in October so we will have a chance to chill soon!

Princess Ellisa · 08-30-2004, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Just send me the invoice, jesus fucking christ!!

DH

You were not the target of my distress but now that you mention it.....

Muffin · 08-30-2004, 01:14 PM

The only thing we have in this world is our reputation. You know where are here as you need us! We love and respect you!

Frank The Tank · 08-30-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by NetBabe
1. Trust No One
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Foxy MULDER IS THAT YOU !!!

James_Hotmovies · 08-30-2004, 01:19 PM

I find that a lot of the people I have verbal agreements with eventually come around.

Most of the time it's because they don't remember everything and need to be reminded what they promised.

One of the down sides of mixing business with pleasure.

PeerPatrick · 08-30-2004, 01:21 PM

i was just talking about the same thing with an IM buddy, last vegas I got an end of the meeting hug and hand pump(non sexual) with this program owner saying he was so glad we are doing business, and said contact $%%^ then right after the show, it was like dodge city ghost town. no replies, online ICQ but no responses. i felt like an x-girlfriend stalking them for a week before i gave up. funny, kinda. ok not at all funny and more like suck.

Call me.

HammerALL · 08-30-2004, 01:28 PM

Your are so right Ellisa- it seems people like to lie and cheat there way to the top. It is especially frustrating when people do that in the guise of friendship and co-operation - when all they are looking out for is themselves. This will help them in the short run - but the main thing is that these people are inevitably figured out - They tarnish their own reputation without the need for anyone elses involvement. Well at least that is what I hope - Karma is a funny thing - and it has a way of sneaking up on people. We are all faced with people who are inconsiderate, self involved, and detrimental to everyone around them. But like any other parasite - they usually have short life spans.

SlickCash Sarah · 08-30-2004, 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by SlickCash Mario
Your are so right Ellisa- it seems people like to lie and cheat there way to the top. It is especially frustrating when people do that in the guise of friendship and co-operation - when all they are looking out for is themselves. This will help them in the short run - but the main thing is that these people are inevitably figured out - They tarnish their own reputation without the need for anyone elses involvement. Well at least that is what I hope - Karma is a funny thing - and it has a way of sneaking up on people. We are all faced with people who are inconsiderate, self involved, and detrimental to everyone around them. But like any other parasite - they usually have short life spans.

YOU STOLE THE WORDS FROM OUTTA MY MOUTH....

08-30-2004, 11:51 AM	#1
Princess Ellisa Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my own lil' bubble. Posts: 1,883	A less than original Rant by Platinum Ellise So I have been losing sleep. Not because of anything really traumatizing but I am just royally frustrated at seeing how some people choose to be.... Here is my problem... I don't like people that go back on their word. I hated it when I was a kid, I hated in high school and I have discovered a whole new dislike for it here in the working world. When my father did business years ago in Europe it was all done on a handshake and a verbal agreement. None of those men ever broke their word to my father, nor did my father to them. They are still working off of that same hand shake from 26 years ago. I think it is sad that in this day and age lengthy agreements with every possible loophole covered need to be put together before we can proceed and even then they are not always solid or binding. So what is my message? My point to this lil' tirade? If you make a deal with someone verbally or on paper follow it through to the best of your ability. If you are unable to because of changed circumstances sit with the person you made the deal with and try to work around it. Don't make a rash decision that benefits only you at that moment in time. It will come back to bite you in the ass. Particulary in this industry where your business associates are in many cases also your close friends. Have the backbone to stand by your word and the courage of your convictions and you will always succeed. When you look out only for number one....as important as that is... there are often natural and logical consequences to that decision. Okay I am done. And I feel better. Thank you. __________________ Skype: PrincessEllisa1 ellisa at pink label dot .com Princess of Everything, Pink Label

08-30-2004, 11:53 AM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	I told you that url got banned on Google. I'm working on it! hehehe. Hope you feel better soon Ellisa! WG __________________ I play with Google.

08-30-2004, 11:54 AM	#4
Princess Ellisa Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In my own lil' bubble. Posts: 1,883	LoL Charlie you are too funny... it is of course not that that has upset me. You followed through with it and let me know what was up! __________________ Skype: PrincessEllisa1 ellisa at pink label dot .com Princess of Everything, Pink Label

08-30-2004, 11:54 AM	#5
Odie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The WATER BABY! Posts: 7,040	oh boy...I knew I was supposed to do something today!! Hope your day is going well!! and yes you are so right Ellisa. Nothing worse than spending time with someone on a deal and then having them not follow through with it or take FOREVER getting it done!! __________________ Odie [email protected] Are you Mobile???? MMACanada ICQ # 166208354 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

08-30-2004, 11:56 AM	#9
Zerof8 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,245	"I only got two things in this world, my balls and my word, and I dont break em for nobody" - Tony Montana __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

08-30-2004, 11:53 AM	#3
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i could not agree more with you, i hate it when people don't live up to the their word....then what is worse is when they ignore you and the problem..

08-30-2004, 11:56 AM	#10
jhauser Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,924	Happy Monday Ellisa. Girl I miss you I wish we could hang out more! __________________ TopBucks.com\| PlugInFeeds.com\| PinkVisual.com I am not one of those girls that go Mobi ing around my mobile solution is for you and you only. icq 175789972

08-30-2004, 11:58 AM	#12
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08-30-2004, 12:00 PM	#13
Tera Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto Ontario Posts: 1,426	Is this about our "said" dinner date? Feel better!!! __________________ [email protected] ICQ 96593794

08-30-2004, 12:01 PM	#15
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08-30-2004, 12:03 PM	#17
toonces Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: #1 target in the free world Posts: 453	Was it me? I was pretty buzzed that night in Miami...hope I didn't say things I forgot to follow up on! __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-30-2004, 12:03 PM	#18
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Being old, I sometimes forget to do stuff so IF I've forgotten anything, Ellisa, LMK!! If not, then I'm glad it's not me and hope your Monday gets better!!

08-30-2004, 12:05 PM	#19
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	In what industry your father was doing business through verbal agreements and he never had problem? I would consider him very lucky.

08-30-2004, 12:05 PM	#21
B40 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,020	Probably not related to me, but backing out of my interview today probably didn't make you feel better...sorry __________________

08-30-2004, 12:05 PM	#22
JustJen Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,233	Allright. FIne. Ellisa, yes, I will be your girlfirend. Happy now? __________________ icq:175766581

08-30-2004, 12:08 PM	#24
LaurieX Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,541	Happens to me sometimes! __________________ [email protected] ICQ# 81820905 Aim LaurieX THE BANNER YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN IS CAUSING ERRORS FOR EVERYONE ON GFY. PLEASE CORRECT IT!!!

08-30-2004, 12:08 PM	#25
Frank The Tank Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,225	alright fine ellisa ill take the vid of you and jen .. happy now __________________ aim : titanceltic icq : 307499327 Frank[@]babesandstuff.com

08-30-2004, 12:09 PM	#26
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	Elllisssaa!!! I lub youuu! When you coming down again hun? We still need to meet up for dinner. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

08-30-2004, 12:13 PM	#30
modF Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,888	Well spoken Ellise! Get your sleep though, karma is a real mother... __________________ I do things skype:themodF

08-30-2004, 12:16 PM	#31
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	Its really sad how things are twice I trusted someone in this business doing a lot of work for them with one I managed to get most my money but it took a long time and a lot of hassle second time never saw a dime. Learned my lesson and don´t trust anyone no matter who they are. __________________ Truth Teller

08-30-2004, 12:18 PM	#34
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08-30-2004, 12:19 PM	#35
Frank The Tank Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ireland Posts: 3,225	well i trust the people who work for me because i watched them a long time to make sure of who they where and as a result ive a very strong team of dependable people working for me on forumsManager.com and my other main site babesandstuff.com __________________ aim : titanceltic icq : 307499327 Frank[@]babesandstuff.com

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08-30-2004, 12:34 PM	#41
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Just send me the invoice, jesus fucking christ!! DH

08-30-2004, 12:44 PM	#42
NetBabe Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 348	Alright Ellisa, I'll send traffic to Moms Need Cash and Reality Porn Pass. BTW Great work on those sites good job. And feel better, unfortunately the world has changed, people do go back on their word, except for people like Tony Montana, usually if they promise they will kill you or hurt you in some way it will happen. If people's business relied on their word, there would be many out of business and stocks would be tanking. As I have posted here before the 5 business rules 1. Trust No One 2. Believe Nothing 3. Sex Makes You Stupid 4. If it looks like a skunk smells like a skunk but portrays themself as a flower it probably IS A SKUNK 5. Any decision made out of emotion is a WRONG decision There and I am sure some GFYers could concur my rules! Take Care Ellisa, Ill send some puggy love to you from the Monty! __________________ NetBabe wickedbucks.com wickedpictures.com

08-30-2004, 01:14 PM	#45
Muffin Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On The Intracostal! Posts: 568	The only thing we have in this world is our reputation. You know where are here as you need us! We love and respect you! __________________ Hi-Band Feed \| Low Band Feed

08-30-2004, 01:19 PM	#47
James_Hotmovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 399	I find that a lot of the people I have verbal agreements with eventually come around. Most of the time it's because they don't remember everything and need to be reminded what they promised. One of the down sides of mixing business with pleasure.

08-30-2004, 01:21 PM	#48
PeerPatrick Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www Posts: 444	i was just talking about the same thing with an IM buddy, last vegas I got an end of the meeting hug and hand pump(non sexual) with this program owner saying he was so glad we are doing business, and said contact $%%^ then right after the show, it was like dodge city ghost town. no replies, online ICQ but no responses. i felt like an x-girlfriend stalking them for a week before i gave up. funny, kinda. ok not at all funny and more like suck. Call me. __________________ PeerPatrick ICQ#150599121 www.buydrm.com

08-30-2004, 01:28 PM	#49
HammerALL Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 3,506	Your are so right Ellisa- it seems people like to lie and cheat there way to the top. It is especially frustrating when people do that in the guise of friendship and co-operation - when all they are looking out for is themselves. This will help them in the short run - but the main thing is that these people are inevitably figured out - They tarnish their own reputation without the need for anyone elses involvement. Well at least that is what I hope - Karma is a funny thing - and it has a way of sneaking up on people. We are all faced with people who are inconsiderate, self involved, and detrimental to everyone around them. But like any other parasite - they usually have short life spans. __________________ Mario Amaral AKA: Hammerall Affiliate Sales \| Email:[email protected] Skype: Hammerall \| ICQ: 190272140