An open letter of apology to kmanrox... I crossed the line. - GoFuckYourself.com

RedShoe · 08-30-2004, 06:27 AM

Ok, look. As most of you know (or not) I left TripleXCash. Now that I'm on my own, I have a huge responsibility to my family as well as myself.

When I announced that I was no longer working there, (to my surprise) people came out of the woodwork to congratulate me, and wish me the best of luck. Several offered me jobs and some even offerd me jobs in their office. After ***, I was not ready for another office job so I respectfully declined.

I knew that I would have to take on many different streams of income. Aside from editing (which has been going very strong) I do some marketing for close friends and people I trust. One of them being, my host.

There was a post earlier, and some dude was all pissed off at webair. So naturally I went in there and spammed my host. So what. We all post shit in poeple's threads. I did it. So what. He was all pissed off at them anyway, so I didn't see the harm.

Well... Kmanrox did.

To be 100 % totally honest with all of you GFY'ers... I don't know 98% of you. I know a few people that I talk to regularly and a lot of your names I recognize but I don't know who you are, or if the majority of the board likes you or not. After actually reading that thread it sounds like the pissed off guy was in the wrong. Will I remember that in 2 weeks? No.

Kmanrox is one of the names I do recognize, but I have never addressed him nor spoken to him at a convention (or maybe we did.. I don't remember) I'm not sure if we all like him or not. I don't know what his respect level here at GFY is.

For a long time I kept getting JuicyLinks and SleazyDream confused. I couldn't remember which one we liked, and which one we hated.

But back to Kmanrox. I spammed my host (who has been great to me by the way) but kmanrox felt it so unprofessional he actually changed his sig to warn people not to do business with me.

It said (as of this post)
List of unethical people NOT to do business with:

PlatinumPimp from AdultCreations Design
Redshoe from his basement

*this should be used for entertainment purposes only (kinda)(or not)

By claiming it was for entertainment purposes only (kinda)(or not) was his way of not committing to the comment. But still that PlatinumPimp guy was really pissing Kmanrox off, so I figured if I was on that list I must have pissed him off as well... joke, or no joke on his part. He still went thru the trouble of changing his sig to tell people I was unethical and not to do business with me.

For me this is a serious issue. I make my living from spamming GFY with my video editing business and from getting people to host with my host. It's my livelyhood.

And so Kmanrox... I apologize to you and to webair for spamming my host in that thread. It was unethical of me. I would kindly ask that you please hear my apology and remove my name from your list. I meant you no harm. And I certainly don't need to loose any business over this. I rely on every single one of my clients, my family relies on them. My child relies on me. It may not mean much to you, but it means a lot to me to be as ethical as I can with whom I do busness with.

Ask anyone of my clients, I have never missed a deadline for a single client and I always go above the standard level of which they expect.

Please accept my apology.

quiet · 08-30-2004, 06:32 AM

hmm, i like both or you (at least from your respective posts over the years).

Jakke PNG · 08-30-2004, 06:35 AM

Redshoe makes prank calls and laughs at people answering the phone

kmanrox · 08-30-2004, 06:38 AM

apology accepted man.. i just know how honest of a guy webair Mike is and how much he tries to help ppl and it drives me crazy when ppl do him wrong is all... =)

RedShoe · 08-30-2004, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
Redshoe makes prank calls and laughs at people answering the phone

You are indeed the funniest mutha fucker I know, and when I called you I wasn't laughing at YOU, I was laughing at how fucked up your english is.

Kmanrox.

thanks. I think it's cool that you were around to defend them when they weren't here. I respect that.
Webair...

webair · 08-30-2004, 06:43 AM

can you feel the love?

Odie · 08-30-2004, 06:48 AM

now that's class!!

WEBAIR ROCKS!!

notjoe · 08-30-2004, 06:49 AM

I see where kmanrox is coming from and while i do not think you're unethical i think it was poor judgement in spamming that thread selling your competing warez.

Personally, if Plugin provider X was offline or having some issues which someone posted about i wouldnt exactly jump into the thread saying take my feeds but instead offer them some help/contact info if i could.

Dont forget, Drama on GFY comes and goes on a daily basis and is almost forgotten as quickly so i wouldnt sweat it..

PS: Takes balls to admit you've fucked up, you've gained some respect with me (for what thats worth)

TurboAngel · 08-30-2004, 06:52 AM

Thank you so much for this post RedShoe, I was kinda upset with your post myself. You have made it right and I give you big props for that.

Va2k · 08-30-2004, 06:52 AM

Hey redshoe is #1 in my book Kman can suck a dick...

J/k Kman ya #1 too sugar

notjoe · 08-30-2004, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
Hey redshoe is #1 in my book Kman can suck a dick...

J/k Kman ya #1 too sugar

You're such a flirt ;)

Tipsy · 08-30-2004, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by va2k
Hey redshoe is #1 in my book Kman can suck a dick...

Got any pics to prove that?

Johny Traffic · 08-30-2004, 06:56 AM

[QUOTE]I'm not sure if we all like him or not. I don't know what his respect level here at GFY is.

For a long time I kept getting JuicyLinks and SleazyDream confused. I couldn't remember which one we liked, and which one we hated.[QUOTE]

"we like him"? does everybody like and dislike the same people? Or are we allowed a choice?

EscortBiz · 08-30-2004, 06:59 AM

i know red shoe my first editor before bringing it in house :-)

both nice peopel :-)

modF · 08-30-2004, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
You're such a flirt ;)

Not a flirt, how about a whore?

slapass · 08-30-2004, 07:15 AM

Kmansrox's list is too short if he is going to take affense at everyone who jumps a thread.

McKracken · 08-30-2004, 07:17 AM

only ROACHES caught on tape having sex will be accepted as an apology

ronaldo · 08-30-2004, 07:19 AM

RedShoe is good people.

I'd recommend him to anyone.

Peaches · 08-30-2004, 07:24 AM

Time for a group hug!

And TGF's accent is SEXY, not funny.

kmanrox · 08-30-2004, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
Kmansrox's list is too short if he is going to take affense at everyone who jumps a thread.

i've been working for 12 hours now.. please break this down to me what it means... im not sure if im supposed to be offended or not

Babagirls · 08-30-2004, 07:43 AM

good stuff!

pradaboy · 08-30-2004, 08:53 AM

class act! we need more of this mutual respect on GFY!

TDF · 08-30-2004, 09:34 AM

redshoe is the editing pimp

www.redshoe.net

brizzad · 08-30-2004, 09:41 AM

very professional and respectful post

redshoe has done editing for people i know, its good stuff

http://www.redshoe.net/samples/

Platinumpimp · 08-30-2004, 10:23 AM

Please note that I arranged a Hotel in Amsterdam for kman by calling them for their fees and several other things and then forwarded it him, while I never even met the guy!

Class act mate, I took the effort to help you out and you pull this shit on me. Not that I really care about your signature, LOL I got enough work but its like stabbing a man in the back.

Manowar · 08-30-2004, 10:36 AM

"use webair"

Fletch XXX · 08-30-2004, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
I got enough work but its like stabbing a man in the back.

a man?

a man knows about DNS and how to run sites

Sly_RJ · 08-30-2004, 10:44 AM

RedShoe hates me.

Hey bud, for future reference it isn't kosher to spam alternative products in "problem threads". It's a slap in the face, really. If someone was having problems with your editing and posted their qualms and another guy came along saying "should have gone with me, I never screw up like that!", you would be a little upset. It's no big deal, now you know.

And kmanrox bought me a Pepsi once, so he's cool too. I almost had to drink water that day!

sarettah · 08-30-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Class act mate, I took the effort to help you out and you pull this shit on me. Not that I really care about your signature, LOL I got enough work but its like stabbing a man in the back.

If you hadn't jumped the gun and you had actually waited for webair to get back with you, it wouldn't have happened, ya know.

Learn a lesson from this instead of getting all defensive and you will be better off than starting more wars.

imho (of course)

Platinumpimp · 08-30-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
a man?

a man knows about DNS and how to run sites

Sure baby

JayJay · 08-30-2004, 10:45 AM

RedShoe

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 01:46 PM

But I don't see why he would start bashing you for spamming a host ... every1 does that daily

08-30-2004, 06:32 AM	#2
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08-30-2004, 06:38 AM	#4
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08-30-2004, 06:27 AM	#1
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	An open letter of apology to kmanrox... I crossed the line. Ok, look. As most of you know (or not) I left TripleXCash. Now that I'm on my own, I have a huge responsibility to my family as well as myself. When I announced that I was no longer working there, (to my surprise) people came out of the woodwork to congratulate me, and wish me the best of luck. Several offered me jobs and some even offerd me jobs in their office. After **, I was not ready for another office job so I respectfully declined. I knew that I would have to take on many different streams of income. Aside from editing (which has been going very strong) I do some marketing for close friends and people I trust. One of them being, my host. There was a post earlier, and some dude was all pissed off at webair. So naturally I went in there and spammed my host. So what. We all post shit in poeple's threads. I did it. So what. He was all pissed off at them anyway, so I didn't see the harm. Well... Kmanrox did. To be 100 % totally honest with all of you GFY'ers... I don't know 98% of you. I know a few people that I talk to regularly and a lot of your names I recognize but I don't know who you are, or if the majority of the board likes you or not. After actually reading that thread it sounds like the pissed off guy was in the wrong. Will I remember that in 2 weeks? No. Kmanrox is one of the names I do recognize, but I have never addressed him nor spoken to him at a convention (or maybe we did.. I don't remember) I'm not sure if we all like him or not. I don't know what his respect level here at GFY is. For a long time I kept getting JuicyLinks and SleazyDream confused. I couldn't remember which one we liked, and which one we hated. But back to Kmanrox. I spammed my host (who has been great to me by the way) but kmanrox felt it so unprofessional he actually changed his sig to warn people not to do business with me. It said (as of this post) List of unethical people NOT to do business with: PlatinumPimp from AdultCreations Design Redshoe from his basement this should be used for entertainment purposes only (kinda)(or not) By claiming it was for entertainment purposes only (kinda)(or not) was his way of not committing to the comment. But still that PlatinumPimp guy was really pissing Kmanrox off, so I figured if I was on that list I must have pissed him off as well... joke, or no joke on his part. He still went thru the trouble of changing his sig to tell people I was unethical and not to do business with me. For me this is a serious issue. I make my living from spamming GFY with my video editing business and from getting people to host with my host. It's my livelyhood. And so Kmanrox... I apologize to you and to webair for spamming my host in that thread. It was unethical of me. I would kindly ask that you please hear my apology and remove my name from your list. I meant you no harm. And I certainly don't need to loose any business over this. I rely on every single one of my clients, my family relies on them. My child relies on me. It may not mean much to you, but it means a lot to me to be as ethical as I can with whom I do busness with. Ask anyone of my clients, I have never missed a deadline for a single client and I always go above the standard level of which they expect. Please accept my apology. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

08-30-2004, 06:49 AM	#8
notjoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 5,599	I see where kmanrox is coming from and while i do not think you're unethical i think it was poor judgement in spamming that thread selling your competing warez. Personally, if Plugin provider X was offline or having some issues which someone posted about i wouldnt exactly jump into the thread saying take my feeds but instead offer them some help/contact info if i could. Dont forget, Drama on GFY comes and goes on a daily basis and is almost forgotten as quickly so i wouldnt sweat it.. PS: Takes balls to admit you've fucked up, you've gained some respect with me (for what thats worth)

08-30-2004, 06:52 AM	#9
TurboAngel H.B.I.C. Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC Posts: 30,122	Thank you so much for this post RedShoe, I was kinda upset with your post myself. You have made it right and I give you big props for that.

08-30-2004, 06:52 AM	#10
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08-30-2004, 07:24 AM	#19
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08-30-2004, 08:53 AM	#22
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08-30-2004, 09:34 AM	#23
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08-30-2004, 09:41 AM	#24
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08-30-2004, 10:23 AM	#25
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08-30-2004, 10:36 AM	#26
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08-30-2004, 10:44 AM	#28
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	RedShoe hates me. Hey bud, for future reference it isn't kosher to spam alternative products in "problem threads". It's a slap in the face, really. If someone was having problems with your editing and posted their qualms and another guy came along saying "should have gone with me, I never screw up like that!", you would be a little upset. It's no big deal, now you know. And kmanrox bought me a Pepsi once, so he's cool too. I almost had to drink water that day!

08-30-2004, 10:45 AM	#31
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