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European Lee · 08-28-2004, 11:30 AM

Promote gay market sites?

Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

Regards,

Lee

exposed · 08-28-2004, 11:32 AM

I am all for promoting what sells. Doesn't matter to me

Dagwolf · 08-28-2004, 11:36 AM

I made a couple of gay freesites experimentally. I just didn't like doing it; I wasn't able to judge from the pics what was sexy and what wasn't (to a gay person)... had the same problem with writing text.

European Lee · 08-28-2004, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagwolf
I made a couple of gay freesites experimentally. I just didn't like doing it; I wasn't able to judge from the pics what was sexy and what wasn't (to a gay person)... had the same problem with writing text.

Did you ask for any help?

Regards,

Lee

zdwebber · 08-28-2004, 12:09 PM

I wouldn't know how to market a gay site to get the most out of it. And like Dagwolf said, I have no idea what turns a gay man on, so I have no idea what i would do.

baddog · 08-28-2004, 12:18 PM

you have to know what you are marketing, and most straight guys don't know how to market gay sites, just like trying to sell "for women."

I know a lot of straight guys that try to sell gay, some succeed, some don't

Doctor Dre · 08-28-2004, 12:29 PM

Cauz it's kinda sick to us ... I don't like / appreciate seeing cock daily ... so hourly ? no thx

I'm not homophobic... i have some people that I know are gay and everything . I don't mind gays, I just don't wanna see cocks

BradM · 08-28-2004, 12:31 PM

It's hard to promote a niche if you're not interested in it yourself. For example I couldn't do granny, gay, shemale, pissing etc etc.
If you can't handle looking at the content how can you expect to market it effectivly?

WarChild · 08-28-2004, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradM
It's hard to promote a niche if you're not interested in it yourself. For example I couldn't do granny, gay, shemale, pissing etc etc.
If you can't handle looking at the content how can you expect to market it effectivly?

Even if you can look at it, you don't know what's attractive about it to others. Makes it very hard to market.

dennisthemenace · 08-28-2004, 12:50 PM

I have a few gay domains and send a little traffic to gay sites.. But I don't really work on 'em...

For me personally, being a straight guy - I can't honestly say I love what I do if I'm looking at guys all day..

frank7799 · 08-28-2004, 12:52 PM

1. Honestly, gay is somehow suspect to me. So I never really thought about promoting it.

2. Reading your thread maybe I´ll give it a try. But htere are some problems, as mentioned before:

- I don´t know what content would really do;
- I won´t find the right text descriptions.

So i think it won´t work for me without help.

12clicks · 08-28-2004, 12:53 PM

I used to own rumpwranger.com, coloncowboy.com and homohillbilly.com and intended to create a whole gay cowboy suite of sites but my heart wasn't in it.

crockett · 08-28-2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Promote gay market sites?

Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

Regards,

Lee

I think only metrosexual webmasters can bridge this gap

Evil1 · 08-28-2004, 12:56 PM

Gotta draw the line somewhere, and drawing it right before guys balls deep in other guys asses seems like the place to put my line down.

fris · 08-28-2004, 12:56 PM

i am a straight webmaster i run a gay tgp
i submit gay galleries to sublimedirectory

bringer · 08-28-2004, 12:58 PM

id do it if i knew what would sell

exposed · 08-28-2004, 12:58 PM

WarChild · 08-28-2004, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
i am a straight webmaster i run a gay tgp
i submit gay galleries to sublimedirectory

Some people can get away with doing it. Some even do it well. It's just not for all straight webmasters, that's all.

I don't sell Japanese Bukkake either. Too often it looks like flat out abuse to me.

TDF · 08-28-2004, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil1
Gotta draw the line somewhere, and drawing it right before guys balls deep in other guys asses seems like the place to put my line down.

lol

European Lee · 08-28-2004, 01:30 PM

Well it would seem that most of the concerns seem to be that many of you dont know what sells or how to market the sites.

Again how many of yu have actually asked for help with this market?

Regards,

Lee

dready · 08-28-2004, 01:31 PM

People like to do work they enjoy.

Reak · 08-28-2004, 01:33 PM

Good question Lee.

Personally i dont like looking at Gay content + i dont do gallery submissions. I would never run a Gay site because the content makes me sick.

I like watching at nude girls with shaved pussies.

I heard the gay market is a good one, one that converts so i would say goodluck making money with it, you probelly enjoy it too.

So do i with the straight market

detoxed · 08-28-2004, 01:39 PM

Promote what you know. Sounds pretty simple? How can you promote something if you know nothing about it, know nothing about what the people looking for it want?

Joesho · 08-28-2004, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I used to own rumpwranger.com, coloncowboy.com and homohillbilly.com and intended to create a whole gay cowboy suite of sites but my heart wasn't in it.

yeah I am sure you had trouble figuring out the cowboy part huh LOL

J/K I couldn't resist, the temptation was too strong LOL

Joesho · 08-28-2004, 01:43 PM

Lee, I would like to talk with guys that run strictly gay only TGP's and gain some perspective from them, I have an idea... can we have a sit down in Vegas?

Nate-MM2 · 08-28-2004, 01:46 PM

I'm straight and make gay sites (as well as straight sites)... and know a lot of others that do the same.

I may not know the market inside out, but the Queer As Folk DVD box-set helps me stay somewhat on the cutting edge of trends & lingo.

12clicks · 08-28-2004, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
yeah I am sure you had trouble figuring out the cowboy part huh LOL

J/K I couldn't resist, the temptation was too strong LOL

I had the pink chaps

railz · 08-28-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Promote gay market sites?

Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

Regards,

Lee

It comes down to the fact Lee that many younger webmasters see promoting gay sites as a reflection on them, and since they're so insecure they'd rather go an add another teen site to the ten million already out there.

Money is money. I've written about this on countless occasions on pornresource.com.

Monique Niccole · 08-28-2004, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Cauz it's kinda sick to us ... I don't like / appreciate seeing cock daily ... so hourly ? no thx

I'm not homophobic... i have some people that I know are gay and everything . I don't mind gays, I just don't wanna see cocks

So I take it you only promote softcore sites? No male-female hardcore?

Money is money to me and gay money spends just like straight money.

12clicks · 08-28-2004, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Cauz it's kinda sick to us ... I don't like / appreciate seeing cock daily ... so hourly ? no thx

I'm not homophobic... i have some people that I know are gay and everything . I don't mind gays, I just don't wanna see cocks

ahahaha,
"I'm not gay"
"my friends are gay"
"how many times can I say cock"

he doth protest too much

mardigras · 08-28-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nate-MM2

I may not know the market inside out, but the Queer As Folk DVD box-set helps me stay somewhat on the cutting edge of trends & lingo.

Heaven help us if the new gay sterotype is Brian Kinney

I watched Dynasty so I know what rich folks were like in the 80's

Doc911 · 08-28-2004, 02:47 PM

I got my first 500 dollar affiliate check from a gay site I promoted on a amateur girl site.

I put a banner on her site and said something about how she likes to see all the big cocks.

Nate-MM2 · 08-28-2004, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
Heaven help us if the new gay sterotype is Brian Kinney

I watched Dynasty so I know what rich folks were like in the 80's

I use it mostly just to understand what certain terms mean.... seems they show up there months before urbandictionary.com and the like....

bigdog · 08-28-2004, 03:15 PM

what is the biggest gay tgp out there?

emmanuelle · 08-28-2004, 04:33 PM

Because 1/2 these guys are homophobic, insecure 18 year olds living in their mom's sewing room. They only know how to sell teen, and have no imagination about anything else. To them a 24 year old is mature-lol

EscortBiz · 08-28-2004, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by exposed
I am all for promoting what sells. Doesn't matter to me

amen

SomeCreep · 08-28-2004, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Promote gay market sites?

Perhaps because they dont enjoy it? To some, looking at gay pics grosses them out to the point of gagging.

EviLGuY · 08-28-2004, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Promote gay market sites?

Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites?

Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it

Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it?

Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

Regards,

Lee

I've made some gay sites and what not.. but really I've found it to be a bit of a waste of my time. I guess I am not marketing to them correctly.

magicmike · 08-28-2004, 06:48 PM

I didn't for about the first year when I got involved in adult.

When I did start, I wished I had started earlier.

Peaches · 08-28-2004, 10:09 PM

I've heard from many gay men that they can tell immediately when a site (gallery, SEO site) has been done by a straight man or woman.

EviLGuY · 08-28-2004, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Well it would seem that most of the concerns seem to be that many of you dont know what sells or how to market the sites.

Again how many of yu have actually asked for help with this market?

Regards,

Lee

Why bother? I have a ton of other niches I know how to market already.. I don't want to make gay sites for the sake of having gay sites.

Corona · 08-28-2004, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic?

I don't know shit about marketing to gay surfers but Ijust bought my first domain for a gay male site a few days ago.

Will be visiting the site in your sig for info soon.

SykkBoy · 08-29-2004, 12:13 AM

I just bought a couple gay domains and am going toplune headfirst into the market

I'll be hitting you up Lee to pick your brain...of course I also have a lot of friends in the gay community, so I'll have a couple them come over and give me some tips and pointers...

kmanrox · 08-29-2004, 12:21 AM

also more than half of the str8 webmasters on the net are in it because they like to talk about how they get to look at naked chicks all day... and they jerk off a few times a day to it... gay sites would damage their ego and bragging rights...

they think with the wrong head...

08-28-2004, 11:30 AM	#1
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Serious Question... Why Dont More Straight Webmasters.. Promote gay market sites? Just wondered why there are not many straight webmasters promoting gay paysites when there are thousands of gay webmasters promoting straight sites? Could some of you please explain this phenomenon to me i just dont get it Money is money whether it is made from a straight surfer or a gay surfer isnt it? Or does it come down to the fact that a lot of straight webmasters simply do not understand how to market gay surfer traffic? Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

08-28-2004, 11:32 AM	#2
exposed Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: unknown Posts: 1,449	I am all for promoting what sells. Doesn't matter to me __________________ "I felt victimized by the Ian Eisenbergs of the world" - Mary Burger

08-28-2004, 11:36 AM	#3
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	I made a couple of gay freesites experimentally. I just didn't like doing it; I wasn't able to judge from the pics what was sexy and what wasn't (to a gay person)... had the same problem with writing text. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

08-28-2004, 12:50 PM	#10
dennisthemenace Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: In the present moment Posts: 2,668	I have a few gay domains and send a little traffic to gay sites.. But I don't really work on 'em... For me personally, being a straight guy - I can't honestly say I love what I do if I'm looking at guys all day.. __________________ All the best to you

08-28-2004, 12:53 PM	#12
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,790	I used to own rumpwranger.com, coloncowboy.com and homohillbilly.com and intended to create a whole gay cowboy suite of sites but my heart wasn't in it. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

08-28-2004, 12:09 PM	#5
zdwebber So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hit me up @ 97400700 . If your looking for traffic trades, head over to HQBang.com. If your looking for a place to submit, head there as well. If you have a vaginal opening and are looking for insertion, please contact me asap. BANG!!! Posts: 768	I wouldn't know how to market a gay site to get the most out of it. And like Dagwolf said, I have no idea what turns a gay man on, so I have no idea what i would do.

08-28-2004, 12:18 PM	#6
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	you have to know what you are marketing, and most straight guys don't know how to market gay sites, just like trying to sell "for women." I know a lot of straight guys that try to sell gay, some succeed, some don't

08-28-2004, 12:31 PM	#8
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	It's hard to promote a niche if you're not interested in it yourself. For example I couldn't do granny, gay, shemale, pissing etc etc. If you can't handle looking at the content how can you expect to market it effectivly?

08-28-2004, 12:52 PM	#11
frank7799 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: In the middle of nowhere... Posts: 1,974	1. Honestly, gay is somehow suspect to me. So I never really thought about promoting it. 2. Reading your thread maybe I´ll give it a try. But htere are some problems, as mentioned before: - I don´t know what content would really do; - I won´t find the right text descriptions. So i think it won´t work for me without help.

08-28-2004, 12:56 PM	#14
Evil1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,893	Gotta draw the line somewhere, and drawing it right before guys balls deep in other guys asses seems like the place to put my line down. __________________

08-28-2004, 12:56 PM	#15
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	i am a straight webmaster i run a gay tgp i submit gay galleries to sublimedirectory __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

08-28-2004, 12:58 PM	#16
bringer i have man boobies Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: van down by the river Posts: 13,082	id do it if i knew what would sell __________________ 333-765-551

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exposed Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: unknown Posts: 1,449	__________________ "I felt victimized by the Ian Eisenbergs of the world" - Mary Burger

08-28-2004, 01:30 PM	#20
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Well it would seem that most of the concerns seem to be that many of you dont know what sells or how to market the sites. Again how many of yu have actually asked for help with this market? Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

08-28-2004, 01:31 PM	#21
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	People like to do work they enjoy. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

08-28-2004, 01:33 PM	#22
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	Good question Lee. Personally i dont like looking at Gay content + i dont do gallery submissions. I would never run a Gay site because the content makes me sick. I like watching at nude girls with shaved pussies. I heard the gay market is a good one, one that converts so i would say goodluck making money with it, you probelly enjoy it too. So do i with the straight market

08-28-2004, 01:39 PM	#23
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	Promote what you know. Sounds pretty simple? How can you promote something if you know nothing about it, know nothing about what the people looking for it want?

08-28-2004, 01:43 PM	#25
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	Lee, I would like to talk with guys that run strictly gay only TGP's and gain some perspective from them, I have an idea... can we have a sit down in Vegas? __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

08-28-2004, 01:46 PM	#26
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	I'm straight and make gay sites (as well as straight sites)... and know a lot of others that do the same. I may not know the market inside out, but the Queer As Folk DVD box-set helps me stay somewhat on the cutting edge of trends & lingo.

08-28-2004, 02:47 PM	#32
Doc911 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: If i was up your ass you'd know Posts: 3,695	I got my first 500 dollar affiliate check from a gay site I promoted on a amateur girl site. I put a banner on her site and said something about how she likes to see all the big cocks. __________________ For PHP/MySQL scripts ICQ 161480555 or email [email protected]

08-28-2004, 03:15 PM	#34
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emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Because 1/2 these guys are homophobic, insecure 18 year olds living in their mom's sewing room. They only know how to sell teen, and have no imagination about anything else. To them a 24 year old is mature-lol

08-28-2004, 06:48 PM	#39
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08-28-2004, 10:09 PM	#40
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08-29-2004, 12:13 AM	#43
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	I just bought a couple gay domains and am going toplune headfirst into the market I'll be hitting you up Lee to pick your brain...of course I also have a lot of friends in the gay community, so I'll have a couple them come over and give me some tips and pointers... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

08-29-2004, 12:21 AM	#44
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	also more than half of the str8 webmasters on the net are in it because they like to talk about how they get to look at naked chicks all day... and they jerk off a few times a day to it... gay sites would damage their ego and bragging rights... they think with the wrong head...