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Old 08-26-2004, 08:22 AM   #1
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Think the USA has the best doctors in the world?

Think again. Look how many obscure little BFE countries have longer life expectancies than us. Now there are many factors to this, not just healthcare...


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Old 08-26-2004, 08:24 AM   #2
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:26 AM   #3
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I don't know if I wanna live to be 79.83 years old...
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:29 AM   #4
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doctors here don't really care about patients, they just want thier payoffs from the drug companies to exclusively subscribe thier medications
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:38 AM   #5
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It's not the doctors, it's the diet and the American culture.

We just sit at home, and drive to McDonald's for dinner.
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:39 AM   #6
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It's not the doctors, it's the diet and the American culture.

We just sit at home, and drive to McDonald's for dinner.
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Old 08-26-2004, 08:40 AM   #7
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It's not the doctors, it's the diet and the American culture.

We just sit at home, and drive to McDonald's for dinner.
Agreed.
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:01 AM   #8
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Lots of interesting info there, for example:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/..._of_sch_of_adu

US citizens on average are most educated? with everyone on average having a BS degree?

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Old 08-26-2004, 09:04 AM   #9
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doctors here don't really care about patients, they just want thier payoffs from the drug companies to exclusively subscribe thier medications
Don't forget the ones who are ripping of the insurance companies - my wife nearly died because a doctor decided he'd make more money from her by keeping her ill...
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:07 AM   #10
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It's not the doctors, it's the diet and the American culture.

We just sit at home, and drive to McDonald's for dinner.
I just got home from the US and I must say I've never seen so many fat obese people anywhere.

Yes I'm sure US doctors, hospitals and education are among the best in the world.

For those who can afford them. For those that can't afford to pay for it the system sucks.
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:10 AM   #11
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i bet india has the best doctors even though they're medical care facilities aren't as good as ours
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:12 AM   #12
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It's not the doctors, it's the diet and the American culture.

We just sit at home, and drive to McDonald's for dinner.
You forgot about all the smog........
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:13 AM   #13
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life expectancy != quality of doctors.
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Old 08-26-2004, 09:13 AM   #14
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I don't know if I wanna live to be 79.83 years old...
I'm going to ask you that when you're 79.82
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:13 PM   #15
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It has nothing to do with doctors. It's a combo of diet, lifestyle and genetics.
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Old 08-26-2004, 03:24 PM   #16
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Life expectancy at birth? What if they are from Iceland but move to Haiti or something?
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:05 PM   #17
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American doctors can lick my ass crack.
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:06 PM   #18
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thats cuz alot of other countries have universal health care, doesn't really say much about the quality of doctors.
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:18 PM   #19
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This is the real deal:

The doctors, are much better in south america and specially in Cuba..

The hospitals are better here.. cuz they have everything..

The problem is not fully blamed on education.. but on lawyers.. a doctor needs to go thru so many papers before he can do anything.. that it just takes the job out of his hands..

The way the learn to be doctors in latin america is a lot tougher than here... so hence.. doctors who ( a good buddy of mine just did this ) go to south america to study and then come here and get their licenses.. will be much better docs than typical US residents who dont leave the country.

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Old 08-26-2004, 04:33 PM   #20
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doctors here don't really care about patients, they just want thier payoffs from the drug companies to exclusively subscribe thier medications
Where at ? I've been lucky I guess but I got good doctors ...
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:41 PM   #21
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Our lives are estimated to be shorter than the #1 country by 6 years, thats really not as bad as I thought it would be. We only lose 6 years to fast food and laziness
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:43 PM   #22
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:46 PM   #23
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US has the best doctors. period... end of discussion
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:16 PM   #24
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McDonalds with all those calories and fats, I don't think so
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Old 08-26-2004, 05:25 PM   #25
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I dont think all the best doctors start out here. They move here for the money.
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:11 AM   #26
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Think again. Look how many obscure little BFE countries have longer life expectancies than us. Now there are many factors to this, not just healthcare...


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The countries with the longer life expectancies.. might just have better diets then people in the US.
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:13 AM   #27
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Old 08-27-2004, 12:16 AM   #28
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1. Mozambique 31.3 years
2. Botswana 32.26 years
3. Zambia 35.25 years
4. Lesotho 36.94 years
5. Angola 36.96 years
Weighted Average 34.01 years
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America's the best place in the world to get health care if you can afford it. If you can't afford it... it's the worst.
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America's the best place in the world to get health care if you can afford it. If you can't afford it... it's the worst.
How ya work that out - where else have you been to compair it to?
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It's not the doctors, it's the diet and the American culture.

We just sit at home, and drive to McDonald's for dinner.
Australia is the most obese country after America with the same type of diet and culture yet we are #6 and America is #48. In fact all the countries with the socialised medicine people keep on whining about are higher than America.
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This is the real deal:

The doctors, are much better in south america and specially in Cuba..

The hospitals are better here.. cuz they have everything..

The problem is not fully blamed on education.. but on lawyers.. a doctor needs to go thru so many papers before he can do anything.. that it just takes the job out of his hands..

The way the learn to be doctors in latin america is a lot tougher than here... so hence.. doctors who ( a good buddy of mine just did this ) go to south america to study and then come here and get their licenses.. will be much better docs than typical US residents who dont leave the country.

how is it thougher learning to be a doctor over there? have u ever even been in residency? its not a peice of cake
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BINGO!
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Don't forget the ones who are ripping of the insurance companies - my wife nearly died because a doctor decided he'd make more money from her by keeping her ill...
You got one of the few true assholes. The problem is actually the other way around, insurance companies are driving doctors out of business. There is a huge shortage of obstatricians and pediatricians because the malpractice insurance is so expensive. Private practice doctors used to be very affordable, but not anymore and that is almost exclusively due to malpractice insurance premiums.
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US citizens on average are most educated? with everyone on average having a BS degree?

think of all the countries where the people dont go to school and stuff. USA has the most amount of educated people
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