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Christopher Lucidi 08-26-2004 11:28 AM

I've been reading this thread at Alex's request, and have formed my own conclusions on where this is going...

First things first. Yes, this is my first post. No, I don't have a background in porn. No, I'm not using a cheesy handle. That is my real name. I have been an investment banker now for over 9 years. I have taken 21 companies public which are all verifiable on the Securities and Exchange Commissions website. Jason and Alex have hired me at a considerable expense to take their company public.

I'm reading here that people think that $1.75 per join, AS A SALES REP mind you, is low, and they can do better elsewhere, blah blah blah.

Its not just $1.75 a join, there is a stock play involved. The largest problem I have seen researching this industry for the past 6 months, is the lack of accountability. Not JUST the webmasters and affiliates, but the programs themselves. Alex was not trying to push his new program, he was trying to help a newbie. In effect though, when people start claiming ignorant statements about getting $30 a join, AS A SALES REP, they are just spending too much time drinking while posting. If you can make $30 a join (or for that matter even $20) as a sales rep per join, please ICQ me, cause I know this company will be profitable at $1.75, I could take on Bill Gates with $20-$30 a join.

Back to the newbie?Just so you know, as a sales rep for a company you personally are not going to be sending 300 joins a day to program. However, you will be responsible for managing the talents, and again, the ACCOUNTABILITY, for maybe 15 affiliates underneath you pushing an average of 20 a day each.

Last comment?Jasonandalex.com is not only offering $1.75 to a sales rep for a referral. It is so much more. As a company in the process of going public, details of posting such as these will have to written in a manner not to release any information that is not considered ?public information?. The details I can give everyone, is that sales reps will be in the position working for this company to make cash on per join basis, STOCK, in our company that has liquidity (value) on the open market on a per join basis, and a program that offers webmasters and affiliates something that NO OTHER program can. Honesty. All of our information, including how much money we make and how much money you make, is audited on the financial statements and made available to the public on the SEC?s website.

Any questions, hit me up.

Doctor Dre 08-26-2004 11:34 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
Thats still vague. Does accounts under you mean signup under a ref code, or accounts that you provide support for?
Would be the one your provide support for

Doctor Dre 08-26-2004 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"Get 10 people to make 10 sales a day and you can be rich like me too!"

you know how hard it would be to get newbies (10 of them) to actually make 2 sales let alone 10 a day.

:1orglaugh

Off course but you don't necessarry have to reffer them ...

Libertine 08-27-2004 06:02 AM

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Originally posted by Christopher Lucidi
Alex was not trying to push his new program, he was trying to help a newbie.
Did you just call me a newbie? :eek7

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

EviLGuY 08-27-2004 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Did you just call me a newbie? :eek7

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Don't feel bad.. I'm a newbie too. :thumbsup :1orglaugh

Libertine 08-27-2004 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by Christopher Lucidi
In effect though, when people start claiming ignorant statements about getting $30 a join, AS A SALES REP, they are just spending too much time drinking while posting. If you can make $30 a join (or for that matter even $20) as a sales rep per join, please ICQ me, cause I know this company will be profitable at $1.75, I could take on Bill Gates with $20-$30 a join.
:eek7

Nobody made statements about sales reps getting $30 a join. Where did you even get that from?

Libertine 08-27-2004 06:50 AM

One last, small thing:

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Originally posted by Christopher Lucidi
Back to the newbie?Just so you know, as a sales rep for a company you personally are not going to be sending 300 joins a day to program. However, you will be responsible for managing the talents, and again, the ACCOUNTABILITY, for maybe 15 affiliates underneath you pushing an average of 20 a day each.

You researched this industry for 6 months, and you have the idea that a sales rep will be managing 15 affiliates who average 20 sales day each?
Now I see why all you investment banker types got fucked when the dot com bubble burst... :winkwink:

I may have no idea about the jobs of sales reps, but what I do know is that affiliates who consistently produce 20 sales a day are fairly rare. Looking at the affiliate stats epiccash, totemcash and lightspeedcash posted the other day confirms that idea.
JasonandAlex, as a program, does not seem a great deal larger than epiccash or lightspeedcash in terms of traffic (going by alexa stats), so it seems somewhat odd to expect dozens of affiliates bringing in more than their top earners (assuming they'll have multiple sales reps).
Ofcourse, I might be missing something here, but it seems much more likely that sales reps will have a big load of insignificant affiliates to manage, with maybe a few big ones.

crockett 08-27-2004 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
If you know how to webmaster, being a sales rep is a waste of your time in most cases.
Not really, you can't look at everything from a money perspective. Of course if you know what your doing with either web mastering or being a sale rep you can make money. Of course you have the chance to make a lot more doing your own stuff.

However being a sales rep can put you in a unique position to make good solid contacts for the future and give you a peak at what goes on within a affiliate program from the inside. You may not get to see everything, but I'm sure it would give you the opportunity to learn the ins and outs of running your own program a lot faster than just running a TGP for example.

Libertine 08-27-2004 07:05 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
Not really, you can't look at everything from a money perspective. Of course if you know what your doing with either web mastering or being a sale rep you can make money. Of course you have the chance to make a lot more doing your own stuff.

However being a sales rep can put you in a unique position to make good solid contacts for the future and give you a peak at what goes on within a affiliate program from the inside. You may not get to see everything, but I'm sure it would give you the opportunity to learn the ins and outs of running your own program a lot faster than just running a TGP for example.

Plus, it's probably a pretty good way to get contacts in various areas of the biz. As a webmaster, generally most contacts you create are with people in your own niche/site type/etc.

Basic_man 08-27-2004 07:12 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson
:2 cents:

well "slightly" more than that...but I am just in this industry for the free porn.

:glugglug

Rolf ! :1orglaugh


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