Like I said, I'm not about to explain our compensation plan or how our system works to you especially in this forum.

You seem to want to try to slam me here and throw your numbers around real quick, but let me just say, you are way off.

Dude, 10 sales a day * $30 a sale * 30 days a month = $9000 a month. Newbies don't make that easily just by posting a gallery a day. Look at that thread where programs post their top moneymakers for realistic references.

Keywords "Decent Template"

Alex I don't think he's trying to slam you, nor was I. This thread was about what sales reps make, you posted a list of what your sales reps make, then when asked questions about it you seem to get defensive. I don't quite understand?

By the way, is your program back up yet? Have been waiting to check out the interracial sites, Matt has been teasing me...

slam you? no just trying to understand how it really works.. nothing more...

Nobody's trying to attack you, it's just that you posted a link to that page in response to the question "how much do sales reps make?". Going simply by that page, things look pretty bleak for your sales reps.

I'm sure you have a way better payment system for them, it just looked kinda funny if one only looked at that page.

Well those programs are just sugar coating being a referring webmaster. If I were looking for a sales job I would point that out to them 5 seconds before I told em to F off. ;)

I didn't say the newbie designed the gallery. I said he bought a pro designed template, from a guy like FletchXXX.

All they do is plug-in content from Alex and post away.

Now, most newbies will NEVER do this - because they
1) dont know their ass from their elbow
2) wont invest $100 - $200 in templates, and roll the dice on good hosting.

But if you check his program, you'll see some real nice sites. The money is there, waiting to be made.

Just look at the top100 affiliates stats from the last few days on GFY.... reps are pooor!

TiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmY :glugglug

Hmmmm - I'm bringing in about 100 sales a day and all I'm getting in the form of compensation is sex from Gabe and Cory.....

Am I winning or losing in this deal?!! :uhoh

And you should tell them to F off too.

98% of the people posting in this thread don't understand what a sales rep is in the first place and think it is just based like every webmaster referral program out there.

The second point is 98% of posters here aren't even qualified to be a sales rep.

I dunno. What is their usual hourly rate?

:banana TiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmY :banana

Nah, man. The adult industry may be easy, but it isn't that easy for a complete newbie to pull in $10k a month.

By the way, I didn't say the gallery was designed by the noob either.

Well, since I am NOT a sales rep, I will just agree with you, then.

















but trust me, I am right :winkwink:

Steve would you like to place a bet? :winkwink:

Don't forget, a newbie doesn't have partner accounts yet, webmasters don't know him yet, he doesn't have nice traffic to old galleries yet, etc. Those things make a pretty big difference.

Let me put it this way.

If you alone can be a "webmaster" and have the necessary skill set to generate 300 joins per day on your own pushing your own program or other programs then yes you would be correct in that you can make a lot more than one of my sales rep that is responsible for 300 joins per day to our program.

However if you don't posess the skill sets to generate 300 joins per day on your own, then a potential 290k per year as a sales rep is not to shabby.

A sales rep has a special knack for selling hence the wrod sales rep....lol

agreed...

I didn't have a clue about this industry when I started but I learned and am still learning.

Being a sales rep doesn't just mean posting. Tracking people down, following up on emails, icq's, coding, making custom galleries, making sure that people are sending and happy are not easy amongst other duties. Many of the sales reps don't do half of those things b/c they don't know how. It's how badly you want it. If you're smart and want to maximize the amount of $$, then you learn very quickly how to code, program, etc. :thumbsup

I haven't worked in 7 years and your sales rep page had me considering sending an application. Looks great to me.

You still dont get it. We understand what a sales rep is and should be. The problem is that MOST SPONSORS say "We are hiring sales reps" and all they are doing is looking for people to refer webmasters. Its not the people posting here that dont understand, its the sponsors fucking up the definition of sales rep.

If you are interested, send an email to alex At JasonandAlex.com

or hit me up on icq 74296267

Well I'm not "MOST SPONSORS"

I don't just take anyone off the street and say you are going to be a sales rep for me.....lol

I didnt say you were doing that.. just saying thats why we have to ask questions like, "What exactly do you mean by sales rep"

Well, the thing is, at the moment I can pretty much live off of webmaster referrals I've made in the past.
Now, with some minor calculations, I found out that if I'd be making with them what your sales reps are making per join, it'd be way, way less.

That seemed a bit odd to me, that's all.

Like I said, I posted a spreadsheet showing the potential for a sales rep in response to a question. I didn't come in here advertising for sales reps needed.

We have a 15 page handbook outlining the duties and responsibilities for our sales reps detailing our system and compensation package.

There is a lot more to it than just the page I posted.

this thread makes me want neck tattoos and to shave my head even closer.

fuck a boss.

"seen broken hearts, like broken dreams... like broken bodies under pale street lights tonight."

ok....so you are making more than 290k per year on commisions alone.....you mean you are receiving dollars for every join generated on an exit, cancelled member that joined again 3 months later, every cross sale, every upsell....the list goes on and on....

If so then you are doing good and this is a moot point.

I'm not here to argue or debate with you on who pays more and where you can make more money. If you are doing good, then more power to you and I wish you all the sucess in the world
:thumbsup

Ah, so you're one of those people who actually require weird things like relevant education, references and *gasp* an actual resume from applicants :winkwink:

I wasn't trying to argue on who makes more money, what I was trying to say (perhaps not exactly as clear as possible) is that when I saw that page and didn't know yet that that wasn't the only thing determining your reps' pay, it puzzled me a bit.

Having heard a bit more about it, obviously your reps don't get half as bad a deal as I initially thought.

Hang on, are we suppose to get paid? :helpme

Nah, you're supposed to be in it for the free porn.

Na, I already had that. :)

:1orglaugh

You already had free porn yet you decided to do more work in the industry? For God's sake man, why?! That is like travelling on while you already have the holy grail in your possession!

I agree.. It has taken us around 4 years to bring in around that much a month and it is still going up.. glad we stuck with it though :-))
:2 cents: :thumbsup

I like helping others make money? :)

You know its very true alot of programs have sales reps that work for comission but unless that program is complete shit its alot different then just being a referring webmaster. You know the people behind the program, know whats going on and have the ability to give bigger accounts more perks to promoting your program. You all look at that $1-$2 per sale as peanuts but when your talking about portfolios that have 100+ active accounts in them your going to be pulling in some good numbers. Not to mention the big fish are not that hard to hook as long as your program makes them money.

I also wanted to add that you get alot of networking done with this. You get to talk to alot of site owners see whats working for them and get to know them.