Proof: Swift Boat Ads

[Giorgio_Xo]

Ben Ginsbgerg, a legal advisor to Bush, just resigned because he was directly involved with the Swift Ads. Proof that Bush was behind the ad. Bush got caught red handed.

[Dagwolf]

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Ben Ginsbgerg, a legal advisor to Bush, just resigned because he was directly involved with the Swift Ads. Proof that Bush was behind the ad. Bush got caught red handed.

And someone else took the heat. That's the way it usually works.

[Corleone]

Originally posted by Dagwolf
And someone else took the heat. That's the way it usually works.

yep.. like the CIA guy had to go because the president is a fool

[stevecore]

LOL, just watched an interview with one of those swift boat guys last nite. He claimed all this shit about Kerry getting medals for nothing but he got one too for the same mission as Kerry so he had to backpedal as to why he took one too. And of course, he was a republican...

[Basic_man]

BUSH SUCK !!! Fuckin' politican!

[bluff]

Originally posted by Basic_man
BUSH SUCK !!! Fuckin' politican!

nacitilop 'nikcuf !!! KCUS HSUB

[genomega]

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Ben Ginsbgerg, a legal advisor to Bush, just resigned because he was directly involved with the Swift Ads. Proof that Bush was behind the ad. Bush got caught red handed.

He gave them legal advice only and there is nothing wrong with that.

Kerry has met directly with many of the left wing groups supporting him but that's no problem of course.

[Fletch XXX]

republicans should stick to touching little kids and raping boys.

[Mike AI]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
republicans should stick to touching little kids and raping boys.

Michael Jackson become a republican?

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Mike AI
Michael Jackson become a republican?

nope, but there is a discussion on Mayor Phillip Giordano the Republican Pedophile to whom I refer.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=346184&s=

[BIF]

Originally posted by genomega
He gave them legal advice only and there is nothing wrong with that.

Kerry has met directly with many of the left wing groups supporting him but that's no problem of course.

Kerry and MoveOn.org are not pretending to be nothing more than a bunch of concerned vets.

[directfiesta]

bottom line, the ads are lies:

Navy report backs Kerry's role in swift boat incident

Wednesday, August 25, 2004
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Navy task force overseeing John Kerry's swift boat squadron in Vietnam reported that his group of boats came under enemy fire during a March 13, 1969, incident that three decades later is being challenged by the Democratic presidential nominee's critics.
The March 18, 1969, weekly report from Task Force 115, which was located by The Associated Press during a search of Navy archives, is the latest document to surface that supports Kerry's description of an event for which he won a Bronze Star and a third Purple Heart.
....

The anti-Kerry group has not produced any official Navy documents supporting that claim, however. The man Kerry rescued, Jim Rassmann, and the crew of Kerry's boat all say there was gunfire from both banks of the river at the time.

Most of the group's members and early financial backers are Republicans and one member who appeared in an ad, Ken Cordier, was a volunteer member of the Bush campaign. The campaign cut its ties with Cordier last week.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/politic...-9240635c.html

Politic is a dirty business, but American politics are worse....

[dig420]

also moveon.org is a legitimate grass-roots organization, as are most liberal interest groups. Swift vets are a front group for a small cabal of wealthy republican patrons, as are most conservative interest groups.

Conservatives are unethical shitheels.

[benc]

I think there is a lot of truth to what the swift guys have said. Often times military records aren't very accurate. Plus Kerry did come back from the war and turn into a Jane Fonda type which pisses off alot of vets.

I think its comical because moveon spent like 60 million dollars with their ads.

Then Michael Moore creates a nationally played 'documentary' that was solely designed to bash Bush and affect the election. Make sure to get your DVD which comes out conviently close to before the election


Now heres the funny part, these swift boat things are far more damaging then the moveon and Moore things because it comes off more legitimate, because most people with half a brain know Moore is basically a windbag that has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Simply put, the Democrat party got schooled.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by benc
I think there is a lot of truth to what the swift guys have said.

The man Kerry rescued, Jim Rassmann, and the crew of Kerry's boat all say there was gunfire from both banks of the river at the time.

The anti-Kerry group has not produced any official Navy documents supporting that claim, however.

http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/politic...-9240635c.html


Are you reading impaired ??? or just brainwashed!

[dig420]

Originally posted by benc
I think there is a lot of truth to what the swift guys have said. Often times military records aren't very accurate. Plus Kerry did come back from the war and turn into a Jane Fonda type which pisses off alot of vets.

I think its comical because moveon spent like 60 million dollars with their ads.

Then Michael Moore creates a nationally played 'documentary' that was solely designed to bash Bush and affect the election. Make sure to get your DVD which comes out conviently close to before the election


Now heres the funny part, these swift boat things are far more damaging then the moveon and Moore things because it comes off more legitimate, because most people with half a brain know Moore is basically a windbag that has to be taken with a grain of salt.

Simply put, the Democrat party got schooled.

ALL people with half a brain have seen the info PROVING the Swift Vets are full of shit. And since you haven't, what does that make you?

[theking]

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
Ben Ginsbgerg, a legal advisor to Bush, just resigned because he was directly involved with the Swift Ads. Proof that Bush was behind the ad. Bush got caught red handed.

This is not proof that the President was behind the ad. In addition the President is probably not behind any ad...as the Bush people hire advertising firms to produce ads.

[theking]

It is being reported that the ads have already cost Senator Kerry 15% of the votes that he did have from Vets. If the loss is not somehow reversed this single ad could possibly cost him the election.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by theking
It is being reported that the ads have already cost Senator Kerry 15% of the votes that he did have from Vets. If the loss is not somehow reversed this single ad could possibly cost him the election.

SHOWS THAT LIES FLIES in the US ...

Meanwhile, the liar is shielding himself ... what a hero !

Cleland tries to deliver congressional Democrats' letter to Bush

CRAWFORD, Texas ? Former Democratic Sen. Max Cleland tried to deliver a letter protesting ads challenging John Kerry's Vietnam service to President Bush at his Texas ranch Wednesday, but neither a Secret Service official nor a state trooper would take it.

The former Georgia senator, a triple amputee who fought in Vietnam, was carrying a letter from nine Senate Democrats who wrote Bush that "you owe a special duty" to condemn attacks on Kerry's military service.

"The question is where is George Bush's honor, the question is where is his shame to attack a fellow veteran who has distinguished himself in combat?" Cleland asked. "Regardless of the political combat involved, it's disgraceful."

Encountering a permanent roadblock to Bush's ranch, Cleland left without turning over the letter to anyone.

"I have a letter signed by nine members of the U.S. Senate, all of whom have served honorably and I'd like to hand it to a responsible officer here on the gate," Cleland said as he tried to deliver it to security personnel at the roadblock. He accused a member of the president's security detail of trying to evade him.

"I am just going to return the letter and make sure it gets in the mail," Cleland said as he returned to his car.

http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...h_Cleland.html

For the people ....

[theking]

Originally posted by directfiesta
SHOWS THAT LIES FLIES in the US ...

Meanwhile, the liar is shielding himself ... what a hero !





For the people ....

It is apparent that Senator Kerry has told some lies of his own...and he and his advisors should not have placed so much emphasis upon his four months of service in Vietnam as somehow proving that he would make a good Commander in Chief. The doors were more than opened to smack him down on this issue...particularly when combined with his long voting record in regards to the military and military expenditures. I personally do not like his voting record as regards the military and military expendures and that is an understatement. Though I will not vote for the President...I am considering not voting for Senator Kerry either.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by theking
It is apparent that Senator Kerry has told some lies of his own...and he and his advisors should not have placed so much emphasis upon his four months of service in Vietnam as somehow proving that he would make a good Commander in Chief. The doors were more than opened to smack him down on this issue...particularly when combined with his long voting record in regards to the military and military expenditures. I personally do not like his voting record as regards the military and military expendures and that is an understatement. Though I will not vote for the President...I am considering not voting for Senator Kerry either.

take some more morphine and down some more vodka you are lucky men lose legs so you can fake a back injury and still get a check.

[Penthouse Tony]

If Bush has someone advising his campaign that offers his service for free to the Swift Boat Veterens on his own time I have no problem with that. Do we really expect people with like interests and goals not to talk? BTW John Kerry has people in his campaign that work for Moveon.org. These campaign reform laws aren't worth much in my opinion.

[theking]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
take some more morphine and down some more vodka you are lucky men lose legs so you can fake a back injury and still get a check.

FYI...I underwent multiple surgeries and spent close to a year in and out of the hospital while still on active duty...being near death was a pretty good fake job...if you ask me. Your entire post is pig shit...Nancy boy. What color have you painted your nails today? You are free to play in one of the other kiddies sand box as you are dismissed...troll.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by theking
FYI...I underwent multiple surgeries and spent close to a year in and out of the hospital while still on active duty...being near death was a pretty good fake job...if you ask me. Your entire post is pig shit...Nancy boy. What color have you painted your nails today? You are free to play in one of the other kiddies sand box as you are dismissed...troll.

you dont dismiss me, i diss you.

you were never hurt, you are just a junky using morphine and using tax dollars to do it.

you are dismissed since you arent even a webmaster.

see you around quad-wannabe. "oh look at me i got hurt in a war" yeah right, liar.

sit back and be glad my taxes support your habit

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Sagi_AFF
If Bush has someone advising his campaign that offers his service for free to the Swift Boat Veterens on his own time I have no problem with that. Do we really expect people with like interests and goals not to talk?

Yes, if you take a post where there is supposed to be transparence, then you should not be involved in organisations that are parrallel to your job... How can we know that he was not the go between, the glue between the GOP and that group...

The only way: don't do it.

And his resignation backs up this... It is the apperance of involvment that is sufficient to create a haze ...

[Joesho]

Oregon is no longer considered a battleground state, Kerry has a 12 pointlead in the polls now.

[Penthouse Tony]

Originally posted by directfiesta
Yes, if you take a post where there is supposed to be transparence, then you should not be involved in organisations that are parrallel to your job... How can we know that he was not the go between, the glue between the GOP and that group...

The only way: don't do it.

And his resignation backs up this... It is the apperance of involvment that is sufficient to create a haze ...

Why do we even care if he was the go between? What does it matter? Should it be a secret that both these groups have the same goal -- getting Bush re-elected. The only people that benefit from these campaign reform laws are the lawyers who will be disputing all these ad campaigns in court.

I think his resignation wasn't necessary especially since Kerry has hired people from Moveon.org. It was probably done so he wouldn't be a distraction to the group's message. Certainly should not be used as proof of wrong doing.

[ronbotx]

[directfiesta]

[dig420]

Originally posted by theking
This is not proof that the President was behind the ad. In addition the President is probably not behind any ad...as the Bush people hire advertising firms to produce ads.

why weren't you banned in the last culling of non-webmasters?

oh yeah, lemme save you some time since you only know three insults:

Danny boy, pig shit, you're dismissed.

That's pretty much the whole arsenal isn't it, junkie?

oh yeah.. I love it that you think "Pig Shit" is funny enough or catchy enough to use in EVERY post. It really says something about you LOL

[theking]

Originally posted by dig420
why weren't you banned in the last culling of non-webmasters?

oh yeah, lemme save you some time since you only know three insults:

Danny boy, pig shit, you're dismissed.

That's pretty much the whole arsenal isn't it, junkie?

oh yeah.. I love it that you think "Pig Shit" is funny enough or catchy enough to use in EVERY post. It really says something about you LOL

Could it be that I am a webmaster...as I have repeatedly told you. Oh I almost forgot...Danny boy...you are a pothead with a low retention level...which pretty much makes your post pig shit...and yes you are dismissed. Go play in that other kids sandbox...you know the one...your fellow pothead...the Nancy boy...Fletch.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by theking
Could it be that I am a webmaster...as I have repeatedly told you.

I find you ... lest's say " entertaining" tough sometimes " boring"...

But I admit I never saw you do a response to a " webmaster" related thread.... makes me wonder....



Ok, you are " DISMISSED " ...

[dig420]

because he isn't a webmaster.

[theking]

Originally posted by dig420
because he isn't a webmaster.

Pig shit.

[gothweb]

Dude don't pick on Pathfinder like that. Don't you know he's dead? Show some respect.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by gothweb
Dude don't pick on Pathfinder like that. Don't you know he's dead? Show some respect.

Id piss on his grave, and id do even worse to thekings.

[hydro]

kerry could fart in my face but id still vote for him to get bush out of office

[theking]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Id piss on his grave, and id do even worse to thekings.

Sorry kid to deny you one of the few pleasures you may have in life...other than decimating your brain cells with pot...but PF does not have a grave and neither will I.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by theking
Sorry kid to deny you one of the few pleasures you may have in life...other than decimating your brain cells with pot...but PF does not have a grave and neither will I.

please give me your phone number.

email it to me.

i wont post it anywhere, i want to call you and hear your voice.

i want to hear the bitch in you.

[BigFrog]

Originally posted by theking
...other than decimating your brain cells with pot...

dude, you're so fucking retarded.

[theking]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
please give me your phone number.

email it to me.

i wont post it anywhere, i want to call you and hear your voice.

i want to hear the bitch in you.

Not only no...but hell no! I do not want a Nancy boy trying to hit on me.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally posted by theking
Not only no...but hell no! I do not want a Nancy boy trying to hit on me.

Actually I think you do. Psychology has proven over and over again that what we externalize is brought about from our desires. So what I can surmise from you is you are looking for a gay guy to wrestle around in a sandbox filled with pigshit.